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Shire Bagginz Standard Userer	Just got an email from Peter as well, that was definetely cool of him to do that.
posted 11-16-2007 09:20 PM PT (US)

Gorbag Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by weyhoops: And I want to see Gilgalad burned alive by Sauron set to music. Well I think we might be getting a new Prologue piece, I'm not sure how different it is, but lets hope this might be on there. I think I read that the scene was never filmed as Sauron's gauntlets were quite sharp and kept hurting the actor who played Gil-galad, which is a tremendous shame. It would have only been short but obviously very necessary.
posted 11-17-2007 03:00 AM PT (US)

Christian Kühn Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by weyhoops: And I want to see Gilgalad burned alive by Sauron set to music. *[/u]GOD YES!!!*[/u] In fact, I want this music so much that I went over to Doug's place the other day, a Nazgûl in tow and...well, it's a done deal! CK, wishing you all a nice weekend and with some already owning RotK:CR, how could it NOT be?!
posted 11-17-2007 04:12 AM PT (US)

Jim Ware Standard Userer	Roots and Beginnings - Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpB5dPOqGuc Roots and Beginnings - Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Xckmlgtm4
posted 11-17-2007 07:56 AM PT (US)

BattleToTheEnd Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jim Ware: Roots and Beginnings - Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpB5dPOqGuc Roots and Beginnings - Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Xckmlgtm4 Great job Jim!! I actually hadn't heard the unused music yet from "Roots and Beginnings"
posted 11-17-2007 09:28 AM PT (US)

Ge0rge Standard Userer	Oh my! Thanks for the podcast updates, Doug. Well, another year of wait...and it's worth waiting for! At least we've got what we wished for, and bless everyone who helped to make this happen! Hm-m-m, the alternate Argonath theme is an interesting take, but I personally prefer the one that was used in the film...actually I hope that the Rarities will just confirm that all the best we already have in the CR ;-)
posted 11-17-2007 02:19 PM PT (US)

Strider1002 Standard Userer	Oh, gkgyver, about your question and ROTK having a "different" sound... I know what you mean. When I first listened to the short previews from the OST on soundtrack.net, I thought it had a much more classical sound to it. It sounded brighter, somehow... especially the first few tracks. It's a sign of a great story, told through film or music, when it develops and changes as it unfolds. ROTK sounds a lot more mellow in places... feels just like the journey is coming to an end, for better or for worse. [Message edited by Strider1002 on 11-17-2007]
posted 11-17-2007 11:18 PM PT (US)

Camillu Standard Userer	Brilliant job Jim Ware.... lovely stuff Although I'm very glad to finally hear the twisted seduction theme as it was meant to be heard (as Smeagol starts to strnagle Deagol), I'm still undecided whether it is more effective than what we eventually saw in theatres. I prefer the 'no-music' version of the 2nd half though.
posted 11-18-2007 07:13 AM PT (US)

Sabsi Standard Userer	@Ralo I can imagine Stockholm is quite dark at the end of November. How many hours of daylight do you get up there? Any sights that I should not miss? @Jim Great job! I agree with Camillu concerning the 2nd half: I prefer the 'no-music' version too. But I like the music heard on the CR notheless...
posted 11-18-2007 08:06 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	@ Jim I would start the music maybe two seconds later, so that it begins when Smeagol opens Deagol's hand and you see the ring. That way, that thick brass chord in the middle highligligts Gollum's sudden grasp for the fish in the water. Just a suggestion ...
posted 11-18-2007 09:15 AM PT (US)

AlexShoreSpain Non-Standard Userer	Hi! Please, visit my video about the unused music of the Argonath Scene with the Gondorian Theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7siiZuG-ds
posted 11-18-2007 09:18 AM PT (US)

Jim Ware Standard Userer	@gkgyver I see what you mean, but that seems to throw the end of the piece off slightly. @AlexShoreSpain Great work! That saves me having to tackle that one.
posted 11-18-2007 10:53 AM PT (US)

Cavalier_of_Palahndtüs Standard Userer	Hey, Peter, I chose next day shipping and you sent it out Friday. Shouldn't it have arrived yesterday, cause it didn't?
posted 11-18-2007 11:11 AM PT (US)

ruckus Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by AlexShoreSpain: Hi! Please, visit my video about the unused music of the Argonath Scene... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7siiZuG-ds Wow that looks really good - thanks Alex. I like the change in tone as the view behind the king's head is revealed. ruckus
posted 11-18-2007 11:26 AM PT (US)

Magpie Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Cavalier_of_Palahndtüs: Hey, Peter, I chose next day shipping and you sent it out Friday. Shouldn't it have arrived yesterday, cause it didn't? I'm not sure asking Peter to monitor these threads for customer service questions is the best way to get answers. He did say this in an earlier post: quote: A lot of you ordered with Priority Mail, which means your box will probably be in your hands on Monday... if the post office has recovered nicely from its day off earlier this week. This makes me think it might have gone out on Friday but perhaps after the USPS cut off time for next day delivery. The USPS site also says, "Next day delivery by noon or by 3:00 pm to *many* destinations." Personally, the man worked hard to get everyone's stuff out as soon as possible, send personal emails (ahead of the automated ones) for some of us when items shipped, and he underchaged on postage and retail price. Since the item isn't technically supposed to be in our hands before Tuesday, we can repay him in patience.
posted 11-18-2007 12:10 PM PT (US)

Cavalier_of_Palahndtüs Standard Userer	Thanks Magpie, I'm just feeling really impatient right now. Forgive me, Peter.
posted 11-18-2007 12:21 PM PT (US)

Tethra Non-Standard Userer	Hello everybody, I've got a question for Doug (or anybody else who is in the know) and sincerely hope it has not been asked before: A couple of years ago I was told by David Salo himself about (part of) a lyric written for the ringwraiths along the lines of "kelkum-ishi, burzum-ishi, akha, gûm-ishi, ashi gurum" meaning "in the cold, in the darkness, here, in the void, only death". Now I had been hoping to read more about this lyric in one of your wonderful Annotated Scores, but alas even the ROTK-Annotatd Score did not make any mention of it. So my question is: Have you ever heard about this lyric? And if so, could you be so kind and tell me, where it should have been placed in the Movie/Score? Kind Regards and thanks in advance, Teth
posted 11-18-2007 01:50 PM PT (US)

Sabsi Standard Userer	These lines are not part of the score. It's what the Ringwraith says before he stabs Frodo on Weathertop! If you listen carefully, you can hear it in the movie... [Message edited by Sabsi on 11-18-2007]
posted 11-18-2007 02:03 PM PT (US)

Magpie Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Cavalier_of_Palahndtüs: Thanks Magpie, I'm just feeling really impatient right now. Forgive me, Peter. There, there.... come have a cup of tea. We'll play Hearts or Scrabble or something. :-) I know, play this game: It's for a good cause and it's fun to recognize words because you've read Tolkien's writings: http://www.freerice.com/index.php
posted 11-18-2007 02:51 PM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Apparently "the item" shipped last Friday ... I'm cautiously optimistic
posted 11-18-2007 04:52 PM PT (US)

Olorin Standard Userer	I've been tracking my box since Peter's email supplied the tracking number. It shipped from Florida Friday night, and just now departed St. Louis. I may have it tomorrow!
posted 11-18-2007 07:19 PM PT (US)

Strider1002 Standard Userer	Oh, sweet! Mine left Pittsburgh last night. I'm about 3 hours east of Pittsburgh Go Steelers, by the way.
posted 11-18-2007 08:43 PM PT (US)

Crippled Avenger Standard Userer	For those unaware, ROTK Complete Recordings is now available to download for a very cheap $25 (CDN) on iTunes Canada, and thus presumably cheaper on iTunes in the USA. I'm very tempted but will try to hold out. Very tempted. Very tempted...
posted 11-18-2007 09:12 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	quote: Originally posted by Cavalier: Hey, Peter, I chose next day shipping and you sent it out Friday. Shouldn't it have arrived yesterday, cause it didn't? Those orders selecting Next Day method are shipped with UPS (not USPS) and that particular outfit doesn't make deliveries on weekends. So, if shipped and in the UPS system on Friday, it will arrive Monday. Patience is a virtue!! You guys are exciting to watch as you track your packages.... I guess it's not "just a tracking number" in this momentary phase of life... it IS life!
posted 11-18-2007 09:28 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Here's a link I hope everyone took the opportunity to read before ordering - this is all the stuff you need to know when it comes to mail ordering... what to expect from the various mailing methods, etc... http://www.moviemusic.com/help/topic.asp?category=2&id=4 I know you can't force people to read all this before placing an order... I'd probably get 1 order a day if so, but the info is linked to multiple times in the shopping cart checkout, among other places. So there is it! Thanks again....
posted 11-18-2007 09:35 PM PT (US)

Magpie Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: Those orders selecting Next Day method are shipped with UPS (not USPS) and that particular outfit doesn't make deliveries on weekends. So, if shipped and in the UPS system on Friday, it will arrive Monday. Interesting. Mine is apparently in St. Paul (which is just across the river from me). It would have to make it to my neighborhood PO by sorting time in the morning to get to me tomorrow. If by some chance it does, that would mean that my standard shipping arrived at the same time that next day would have. I am too frugal for next day. Even if it doesn't get here till Tuesday, I'm only 24 hours behind and $14 richer.
posted 11-18-2007 09:36 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crippled Avenger: For those unaware, ROTK Complete Recordings is now available to download for a very cheap $25 (CDN) on iTunes Canada, and thus presumably cheaper on iTunes in the USA. I'm very tempted but will try to hold out. Very tempted. Very tempted... Not even tempting for me, buddy. I mean, with the sound mix as clear as it is in RotK, I would never even entertain the idea of accepting all that degradation by purchasing from iTunes. Now, considering the sound mixing on FotR or TTT........... nah, just kidding. I wouldn't use iTunes anyway.
posted 11-18-2007 09:48 PM PT (US)

Christian Kühn Standard Userer	Review is up at Filmtracks: http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/lord_rings03.html "It would be difficult to provide better treatment of any trilogy of scores than what Reprise Records and Warner have accomplished with the box sets of complete recordings for Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings films. It is so rare that film music is both so good and so well treated that you can unequivocally recommend a set that could set you back $60. But these sets, released first for The Fellowship of the Ring in 2005 and then for The Two Towers in 2006 before this final entry for The Return of the King in 2007, are all stunning and spectacular (...)"
posted 11-19-2007 04:03 AM PT (US)

Thorf Standard Userer	Has anyone else noticed that the links in the Annotated Score are not functioning? I'm also wondering if the official soundtracks web site is going to be updated. Tomorrow, maybe? To coincide with the release.
posted 11-19-2007 05:05 AM PT (US)

weyhoops Standard Userer	Do you guys agree with this statement from the Filmtracks review? "Die-hard fans of the trilogy have often stated that The Fellowship of the Ring was the most mistreated by its original album edit." I must say that I wholeheartedly disagree with this. I thought that they did a remarkable job compiling 70 minutes of music for the FOTR OST. Furthermore, we were provided the frequent fan-fav Prologue alternate, The Prophecy. Overall, easily my favorite of the OST releases and the least "mistreated". [Message edited by weyhoops on 11-19-2007] [Message edited by weyhoops on 11-19-2007]
posted 11-19-2007 05:58 AM PT (US)

weyhoops Standard Userer	Upon further reading of the review, the above quote seems like one of the less controversial statements made about the scores. Some very interesting opinions indeed.
posted 11-19-2007 06:13 AM PT (US)

Magpie Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Thorf: Has anyone else noticed that the links in the Annotated Score are not functioning? I was wondering if they were meant to be links. It seemed like they should be but I couldn't get them to work. Since my default reader is Foxit Reader, I opened them up in Adobe Pro and tried them. But that's an editing program so maybe that's the problem so I tried opening it up at work on Adobe Reader. They went to a lot of trouble with the bold, color, underline if it wasn't meant to be links. If it was meant to be links, they may not have saved it properly when converting from the design software to pdf. You have to have the right version and certain boxes checked for links to function. (yi... so many ways for converting to pdf to go wrong!)
posted 11-19-2007 07:26 AM PT (US)

Christian Kühn Standard Userer	Well, considering how much great material was indeed missing from the OST, I think I agree with Christian's review. It's, however, interesting to note how much alternate material made the OST in Fellowship's case. The Prophecy (#1), the completely choral Wizards' Duel (#4), how the Revelation of the Ringwraiths is choral from the beginning (#5), Shore's original version of the Bruinen sequence (#8), the un-cut version of Aníron (#10), the original (?) beginning of the Moria fight sequence (end of #12), The Great River (#15), "In Dreams" within context of the Fellowship's breaking. Do T2T and RotK feature a comparable amount of music that can only be heard on the OSTs (such as the Lighting of the Beacons)? CK
posted 11-19-2007 07:51 AM PT (US)

Jim Ware Standard Userer	I'm working on a breakdown of the original ROTK album at the moment, and the amount of alternate material is comparable to FOTR. FOTR Breakdown TTT Breakdown [Message edited by Jim Ware on 11-19-2007] [Message edited by Jim Ware on 11-19-2007]
posted 11-19-2007 08:12 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Guess what surprise the postman had in his pockets this morning? And no, you're not in the wrong movie PS: Just read the review. Clemmensen still doesn't understand Gollum. And I don't quite get what he means when he says "The Journey To The Grey Havens" was edited to fit the picture, and that the original album presentation was better. Both are practically the same. [Message edited by gkgyver on 11-19-2007]
posted 11-19-2007 08:29 AM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Standard Userer	I'm hoping I get mine soon... I just got shipment confirmation on Saturday, so... My question was in the Podcast! Thank you Doug not only for responding to it (with samples) but for having cut out all of the flubs I left recording the message!
posted 11-19-2007 08:57 AM PT (US)

Ralo Non-Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Sabsi: @Ralo I can imagine Stockholm is quite dark at the end of November. How many hours of daylight do you get up there? Any sights that I should not miss? Yes, it is very dark up here. People in Sweden usually get depressed during the winter. I think that the sun rise about 8.00 o'clock and goes down around 15.00. We had a lot of snow last week but most of it is gone now. Hmmm... any sights? Personally, I don't like Stockholm that much. :P Many tourists' like Gamla Stan (the Old City, a small island in the middle of everything) though but it might be boring now when it is winter. My advise is the check out the places around Konserthuset, that area is the most crowded place in Stockholm. Just a few more days until the concert now, can't wait! The CR will be released on the 28th here in Sweden, can't wait for that either! Sorry if my english is bad. :P
posted 11-19-2007 09:21 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Now here's a question for Peter: assuming Doug's book will be packaged with the rarities disc(s), are we going to be able to order it from you? Because books don't seem to be your milieu really.
posted 11-19-2007 11:37 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Yeah, no. Not selling books right now... sorry.
posted 11-19-2007 11:40 AM PT (US)

Gorbag Standard Userer	I know its early days, but how do people think the bonus discs will be packaged with Doug's book? While I don't expect an attached box in a similar vein to the Complete Recordings, I am hoping they aren't just in cardboard slipcases, as I hope one can display them in their own right. Hopefully Doug and co. will find some way to blow us away by coming up with something totally unexpected.
posted 11-19-2007 12:45 PM PT (US)

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