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      Which version Holst-The Planets? (Page 2)

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    Topic:   Which version Holst-The Planets?

     Nicolai P. Zwar
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    If you can still find it. Grab copies while you can, cause Levine's Planets is OOP. (Yes, film score collectors aren't the only one affected by this problem ). Terrific recording, superb brass section.

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    posted 11-20-2001 05:02 AM PT (US)     

     James
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    So, who has heard Tomita's version? I've only heard of it.

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    posted 11-20-2001 09:32 PM PT (US)     

     Nicolai P. Zwar
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    The Tomita one is more of an interesting curiosity version. You'll probably get the most out of it if you already know The Planets to appreciate the electronic adaptation by Tomita (and the changes he made), which was imaginatively done for its day and still packs some punch. For those with an interest in electronic music this is very worthwile; it sure has that "wow, that's different" effect to it. But it doesn't have a very high replay value, and you'll get a lot more long time listening enjoyment out of the orchestrated version. Therefore it can be recommended only as an addition and not as an alternative choice to Holst's original version.

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    posted 11-21-2001 04:19 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, I would never think of having just the Tomita version. I own and love the Dutoit.

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    posted 11-21-2001 09:26 PM PT (US)     

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    I agree with Nicolai, The curiosity that is Tomita's Planets has only limited replay value in my opinion, though friends do sometimes request a listen.

    James, Dutoit's version is best IMHO

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    posted 11-22-2001 04:14 AM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    and I

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    posted 11-22-2001 08:53 AM PT (US)     

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    Ow my G**

    Would you guys just stop already?
    I already purchased the version of Holst's the Planets that suits me best based on your suggestions. I am forever thankful for that.

    But now you are clogging up my mailbox! :-(
    djeeeez..... ;-)

    NP: CASPER-James Horner ***/*****

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    posted 11-22-2001 09:18 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Foobsie:
    I already purchased the version of Holst's the Planets that suits me best based on your suggestions.

    Very often, there are several versions that suit one best. I know that I'm repeating myself here, but I have five different versions of Bruckner's 4th symphony, and while two of them aren't too good, I wouldn't part with any of the other three.

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    posted 11-22-2001 09:45 AM PT (US)     

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    marian?

    You are asking for it right?
    Okay... i'll give it too 'ya next Goldsmith concert @ the RAH, 2002 :-Þ

    hehehehe ;-)

    NP: SNEAKERS-James Horner ***/*****

    He, what can I say, It's James Horner night ;-)

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    posted 11-22-2001 10:07 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Foobsie:
    You are asking for it right?
    Okay... i'll give it too 'ya next Goldsmith concert @ the RAH, 2002

    I hope I can be there. As of now, I have no idea whther I have the time or money.

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    NP: SNEAKERS-James Horner ***/*****

    Ok, I can accept that you give Casper three stars, though it's at least a 3.5 for me. But Sneakers is a five star score!

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    posted 11-22-2001 02:01 PM PT (US)     

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    Well... I couldn't resist.
    Saw a sealed copy of The Planets on sale today for about 3$. Eugene Ormandy/Philadelphia Orchestra on RCA Victor's Classical Navigator series.

    It's good.
    Mars is fantastic (although the organ is drowned by the orchestra).
    The second movement has some bass/cello parts I had never heard on other versions before.
    The only problem is that the brass is too harsh at times. And there's one point in either the 3rd or 4th movement where it's as if everyone in the orchestra suddenly lost track of where they were, and screwed up for about 2 seconds before getting back on track.
    Other than that, it's well performed (duh... it's the Philadelphia!), tempi are great, and the sound is more transparent than a whole bunch of more recent orchestral recordings.
    For three bucks, it's a five star purchase.

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    posted 01-23-2002 07:53 PM PT (US)     

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    IMHO there are two ways to conduct Mars: Fierce and quick (like Dutoit), or slower, brooding and menacing. Any recommendations for a great recording of this second version?

    NP: Ride With the Devil (Mychael Danna) - With thanks to Timmer!

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    posted 01-24-2002 10:24 AM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    Nope.

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    posted 01-24-2002 10:50 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    posted by Marian Schedenig:
    IMHO there are two ways to conduct Mars: Fierce and quick (like Dutoit), or slower, brooding and menacing. Any recommendations for a great recording of this second version?

    Oh yes, I've got one: Zubin Mehta's version with the New York Philharmonic Orchestra, available on Teldec. The way he slows things down in the middle section until he pulls out all the stops again is a tad excentric but highly effective. Your best bet for a "slower", more brooding version of Mars.

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    posted 01-24-2002 11:18 AM PT (US)     

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    Slow, brooding, menacing? Well then, Herrmann's recording is what you want!

    SFT

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    posted 01-24-2002 12:08 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Nicolai P. Zwar:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>posted by Marian Schedenig:
    IMHO there are two ways to conduct Mars: Fierce and quick (like Dutoit), or slower, brooding and menacing. Any recommendations for a great recording of this second version?<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Oh yes, I've got one: Zubin Mehta's version with the New York Philharmonic Orchestra, available on Teldec. The way he slows things down in the middle section until he pulls out all the stops again is a tad excentric but highly effective. Your best bet for a "slower", more brooding version of Mars.

    [Message edited by Nicolai P. Zwar on 01-24-2002]


    I have Mehta's version with the LA Phil, it's a different release (a 2 dcd with star wars, close encounters, planets and also sprach zarathustra) but the same recording.
    http://www.amazon.com/Holst-Planets-Zubin-Mehta/dp/B000050AQC/

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    posted 10-12-2006 09:37 PM PT (US)     

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    That Mehta recording of Star Wars makes me wish he would record a complete 6-movie suite if he can give it the same energy he gives The Throne Room and Finale on that recording.

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