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Originally posted by NeoVoyager:
Doug Adams has been gently but persistently telling fans that pose this question that the row that caused Shore's score to be rejected for Kong is in some way not applicable to this project. He also cautions against too much assumption that the relationship between Jackson and Shore is as strained as some seem to think it is.

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I would further caution that there's no actual evidence that the "row" (if that's the best word for it) involved Shore's score being "rejected", per se. "Creative differences" (which, unless I'm mistaken, was the only official reason given) is a very broad term, covering the entire creative process.

Shore wrote and recorded some music for King Kong. He left the project before completing this process. His departure was handled amicably between all the parties involved, and no blame was assigned. That's ALL WE KNOW!

Sorry if I seem peevish -- I'm not speaking from any kind of insider information. It's just that it IS a pet peeve of mine when people talk about "the rejected score to King Kong". The "unused score" would seem like a more sensible appellation.

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Originally posted by sean:

I'm glad you caught my semantics; it was intended to read that way. As for it being radically different, I mean the look of the film from a director's point of view... It can still take place in that realm and have a different air to it: Just look at how great The Empire Strikes Back looks and feels compared to Star Wars, yet they go together like bread-and-butter; Irvin Kershner and Peter Suschitzky brought their A-game to it and gave the Star Wars universe a fresh and inspired look (it's still one of the best looking films I've seen, and the direction is much more apparent that time around when compared to Lucas's "non-style" approach to directing): I want Del Toro to do that with The Hobbit. I don't want to see him try and ape Peter Jackson.

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This is possibly Sean's best post of the last two years; he's getting his point across and it seems that no one is getting offended or blaming him for anything. Way to go!

I also agree wholeheartedly with this post. Del Toro needs to Irvin Kershner this bad boy and deliver us a movie that could possibly be better than the LotR trilogy. I happen to think that Del Toro is a much better director than Jackson, but I think that both of them tend to get overrated and suggested for projects too often. Before Pan's Labyrinth I was an immense Guillermo Del Toro fan, but the film let me down in such a way (and it's overenthused fanboy reaction leaves me scrathing my head) that I've lost some of my good graces with the plump Mexican. I was greatly anticipating Hellboy II, but with the loss of Beltrami behind the music, my heart has somewhat dampened. And now that Beltrami has rightfully earned his first Academy Award nomination, methinks that Del Toro may have made a grave mistake. But, Del Toro is the right hand for this project. He has a much more cerebral mind than Jackson could ever dream of having (Kershner
to Lucas, again) and a better grasp of subtleties (if we set aside Pan's for a second). His DP of choice, Guillermo Navarro also has a better eye for color than Andrew Lesnie, who lensed Jackson's previous films.

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Originally posted by sean:
What's the reasoning behind Danny Elfman scoring Hell Boy II? That film looks great, but Elfman's name attached doesn't inspire excitement or confidence nowadays.

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Speak for yourself! As for the "reasoning", here it is, straight from the horse's (or bull's) mouth:

I feel privileged. I have worked with Marco Beltrami many times and will work with him soon enough but I believe we will have a beautiful score with Elfman, whom I admire greatly ... and with whom I share a dark view of the world.

Del Toro also mentions that he had Elfman specifically in mind when giving instructions for the title sequence to the original film.

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Originally posted by StarlessWinter:
Ah, all you guys care about is subtlety. Any emotion beyond a look of the eye is "soppy".

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Originally posted by franz_conrad:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by StarlessWinter:
[b]Ah, all you guys care about is subtlety. Any emotion beyond a look of the eye is "soppy".
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I think you could have express that without the 'Ah' and the second sentence, and still have gotten your point across. It would have been more.... subtle.[/B]

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Originally posted by NeoVoyager:
It ain't April 1st on this end of the world yet, Franzie.

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LOL. It wasn't on mine either. I just thought it would look funny coming after a post that said the recent news would put an end to all rumours.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117984595.html

SICK.

--Brian