Clayton

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Originally posted by joan hue:
Is this 100 percent underscore without songs? I hope so.

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HAHA! I hope to hell it is! Transformers fans will pretend to morph into Star Scream, or nuts_score's favourite Transformer called Cock Blaster, and storm the WB.

This caught my eyes:

"Warner Records may consider publishing a 2-disc set containing all the music that Steve Jablonsky and his crew created for Transformers, which presumably would include most/all of the music not used in the final cut of the movie (Jablonsky reportedly composed about 90 minutes of score). The possibility of a 2-disc Transformers score album depends on how well the initial release sells."

what do you all think?

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Originally posted by darthmaul1:
I will probably buy the one that comes out on the 9th and just download the 2 disc one.
I can't stand that when studios do that, just release one or the other.

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Yeah, that's the spirit! Kill the music industry! Who needs it?

Maybe studios and record companies are finally getting it that people want completes...and I think we can thank scores like the mainstream stuff like "Star Wars" and "LOTR" sets for paving the way.

Hell yeah I'd buy another one. Maybe not right away, but I'd do my part to help sales.

Jeron's right Darth, you're not helping. Why not just wait for the 2 disc and get it then. And how can you not stand it? I can count on my hands how many times a major company like WBR, Sony, Universal etc has done these big releases of completes. Usually stuff like that is done by Varese, La-La-Land, Intrada, Silva and others.

--Brian

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--Brian

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
Good, now you bastards can stop complaining. I might buy it, if it grants you a 2-disc extended release and then Sean can get an excite-mite in his pants.

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i think some people are missing the point. if the 1-disc version does NOT sell well, then the 2-disc version will NOT be released!

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Which screws film score fans over because not everyone has the money for buying two releases of the same score. These folks are naturally holding out for the 2 disc set. So is it alright that these people should be held responsible for the record company not releasing the complete thing?

It's like tricking fans into buying it because a) they are not sure whether a complete score will be out, and b) the record company said if the first one doesn't sell, there'll be no second.

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Originally posted by gkgyver:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>i think some people are missing the point. if the 1-disc version does NOT sell well, then the 2-disc version will NOT be released!<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which screws film score fans over because not everyone has the money for buying two releases of the same score. These folks are naturally holding out for the 2 disc set. So is it alright that these people should be held responsible for the record company not releasing the complete thing?

It's like tricking fans into buying it because a) they are not sure whether a complete score will be out, and b) the record company said if the first one doesn't sell, there'll be no second.

That's the same business spirit that kept Spider-Man 3 deep in the vaults of Sony, although that was a far more disgusting behaviour.

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I haven't read all the details in this thread, but its sounds like first graders are running the label if it was officially announced that a 2CD would come pending the sales of the single CD. Talk about killing the immediate rush of sales of the single CD as those on a budget wait it out.

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Originally posted by darthmaul1:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by gkgyver:
[b] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>i think some people are missing the point. if the 1-disc version does NOT sell well, then the 2-disc version will NOT be released!<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which screws film score fans over because not everyone has the money for buying two releases of the same score. These folks are naturally holding out for the 2 disc set. So is it alright that these people should be held responsible for the record company not releasing the complete thing?

It's like tricking fans into buying it because a) they are not sure whether a complete score will be out, and b) the record company said if the first one doesn't sell, there'll be no second.

That's the same business spirit that kept Spider-Man 3 deep in the vaults of Sony, although that was a far more disgusting behaviour.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is why you buy the first one and if the 2nd one does get released you just download it, serves them right for not releasing it when the movie first came out. And any way most of the traks will probably be the same, maybe just a bit longer
I don't think they will release a 2 disc edition.[/B]

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Yes... that's called stealing. And no, it does not serve them right. With a film score, they don't normally know how well it will sell so why release this big special edition that costs lots of money right off the bat and lose money? You need to know there's a high enough demand for the complete score. It's very simple...

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Originally posted by PeterK:
I haven't read all the details in this thread, but its sounds like first graders are running the label if it was officially announced that a 2CD would come pending the sales of the single CD. Talk about killing the immediate rush of sales of the single CD as those on a budget wait it out.

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Originally posted by gkgyver:
I seriously doubt that releasing two discs in a 2 CD plastic case would be that much more expensive for the company than a single disc release. The printing and design costs are the same, just press a second disc, that costs how much, 10 cents?

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Are you forgetting re-use fees for the orchestra? That's where the majority of the cost will go. It isn't the pennies they'll be spending on plastic cases and CD booklets that bothers a record company, it's going to be releasing more music that will be MUCH MORE expensive and probably not worth their effort at a slight cash grab. Unless, of course, Transformers was recorded in London, but I seem to remember Dan's photo "essay" taking place in L.A. for the recording sessions.

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Originally posted by scoreguy16:
Now with Armageddon, had there been an album with Trevor Rabin's music and then one with Harry Gregson-Williams (which actually would've been longer than Rabin's which I find hilarious considering the credits), that would've made sense.

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LONGER and BETTER! LOL!

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Originally posted by gkgyver:
I seriously doubt that releasing two discs in a 2 CD plastic case would be that much more expensive for the company than a single disc release. The printing and design costs are the same, just press a second disc, that costs how much, 10 cents?

If people want to buy the music, they don't care whether it's a single disc or two disc release.
They can't be stupid enough to think that the average joe who walks into a music store sees the Transformers score and has the urge to buy it. Of course there is a more limited market for this. There's a limited market for every score release. And this limited market would once like to see a complete score from the get go.
And: who do they think reached the song album? Us score fans? Please ...

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Wouldn't the royalties for a 90 minute release be more those of 50 minute release? They'll want to make money on the 1st release then contemplate the 2nd. Now, I think they should just swallow some of the cost, seeing how popular this movie is, and release them all at the same time. Telling people that they'll double dip will piss some people off.

The DVD argument applies to this situation. I wouldn't buy the single disc version, knowing that there's a 2disc version. And I wouldn't buy the 2disc version when I know that a month or two later they'll release the 4 disc super duper deluxe edition.

And Transformer is like Star Wars for many people. Having the movie score released will be something that most would want, since I'm sure most of the TF fans already all the official CDs/promos/bootleg of the animated movie score.

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Originally posted by sean:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by scoreguy16:
[b]Now with Armageddon, had there been an album with Trevor Rabin's music and then one with Harry Gregson-Williams (which actually would've been longer than Rabin's which I find hilarious considering the credits), that would've made sense.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

LONGER and BETTER! LOL!

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Good God yes... Love how you don't hear the serious emotional theme until like an hour of the film has gone by. It also caused me to love the electric Violin. Awesome instrument... Really the only tracks Rabin wrote that I really like include the Launch track, and the end of A Wing & A Prayer. But I do think his Evacuation track is a very unique action cue from him. Oh, and the suite was alright. But I don't think there's a cue by HGW I didn't like for that movie. Mmmmm electric violin... Oh, sorry. Trailed off there for a second. But I agree, if I know there's a director's cut coming out for a film, I will avoid the first cut. Unless the first cut is better... Which actually has happened before. But there's some that go the other way where the theatrical cut sucks so bad and then the director's cut totally rocks (speaking of HGW, Kingdom of Heaven anyone? The director's cut for that is fantastic!). But sometimes less is more. We don't always need the filler music where it's just a solid note in the background or something like that. With this film, I'd imagine you probably could make a pretty solid 50 minute release. Would I like to have all the music? Sure. But would it be an album where you could sit down and listen through the whole thing over and over? Maybe not, I'm not sure... But I do know I am very, VERY happy the score is getting released at least in some form.

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Originally posted by scoreguy16:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by darthmaul1:
[b] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by gkgyver:
[b] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>i think some people are missing the point. if the 1-disc version does NOT sell well, then the 2-disc version will NOT be released!<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which screws film score fans over because not everyone has the money for buying two releases of the same score. These folks are naturally holding out for the 2 disc set. So is it alright that these people should be held responsible for the record company not releasing the complete thing?

It's like tricking fans into buying it because a) they are not sure whether a complete score will be out, and b) the record company said if the first one doesn't sell, there'll be no second.

That's the same business spirit that kept Spider-Man 3 deep in the vaults of Sony, although that was a far more disgusting behaviour.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is why you buy the first one and if the 2nd one does get released you just download it, serves them right for not releasing it when the movie first came out. And any way most of the traks will probably be the same, maybe just a bit longer
I don't think they will release a 2 disc edition.[/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes... that's called stealing. And no, it does not serve them right. With a film score, they don't normally know how well it will sell so why release this big special edition that costs lots of money right off the bat and lose money? You need to know there's a high enough demand for the complete score. It's very simple...

Clayton[/B]

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The same thing happened with "Armageddon" so get over it and be happy we score fans are getting something.

--Brian

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Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
Well actually no, a score does not need to be released on when the movie comes out. If the company thinks they'd make more money on a various disc and or they'd rather promote a various release in hopes of selling it to the mainstream audience it makes "cents" to release a score later as they will not confuse the audience they are going for.

The same thing happened with "Armageddon" so get over it and be happy we score fans are getting something.

--Brian

[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 09-01-2007]

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Ya actually the score does need to be released when the movie comes out, cause I would of gone right out after I saw the movie and bought it. And as for confusing the audiance?? What the hell, are people stupid I think most people can read what tracks are on the CD and get the right one.

It took them years to release the Predator score and when they did there was only 3000 CD's so that was bullsh1t. So I just downloaded it.

They could release both it's not that hard, especially since the decipticons theme was on the Burger King site, therefore it was already made.

You know, you complain a lot. Just be happy about it that we're getting a "Trans" disc period.

And you'd be surprised how dumb people are when it comes to music.

--Brian

1. Autobots
2. Decepticons
3. All Spark
4. Deciphering the Signal
5. Frenzy
6. Optimus
7. Bumblebee
8. Soccent Attack
9. Sam at the Lake
10. Skorpinok
11. Cybertron
12. Arrival to Earth
13. Whitwicky
14. Downtown Battle
15. Sector 7
16. Bumblebee Captured
17. You're a Soldier Now
18. Sam on the Roof
19. Optimus vs. Megatron
20. No Sacrifice, No Victory

--Brian

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