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Steve Hughes Oscar® Winner	Not sure how true this is, AlanSilvestri.com says that the composer has been released from Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. The site doesn't elaborate any further than that but does say they don't think Silvestri has recorded any music yet... [Message edited by Steve Hughes on 05-02-2003]
posted 05-02-2003 02:49 AM PT (US)

reza Oscar® Winner	Aaaargh!! Btw, alansilvestri.com redirects people to the official website: http://www.alan-silvestri.com/main.html
posted 05-02-2003 03:33 AM PT (US)

Alexborn007 Oscar® Winner	This is getting bizarre... Goldsmith and now Silvestri (both top composers). If this happens to Horner, I'm expecting a huge gaping hole to be created in the earth. I really wonder why these guys keep getting shafted lately.
posted 05-02-2003 03:40 AM PT (US)

ESB Oscar® Winner	You better believe it. I got the news from the Silvestri family I hope they will give me more info about the reasons. It seems those Hollywood producers are freaking out and firing everybody at the slightest problem? Or are a lot of composers suddenly become much worse? Well, go figure out which of the two is correct.
posted 05-02-2003 04:47 AM PT (US)

John Zimmer Oscar® Winner	Dan, can you confirm this? If so there goes my summer. 3 and counting. Timeline, The Hulk, Pirates. Jz [Message edited by John Zimmer on 05-02-2003]
posted 05-02-2003 05:01 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by John Zimmer: Dan, can you confirm this? Well... I had heard things... but nothing I can CONFIRM. And as I'm now in Boston, it'll have to wait until next week. Dan
posted 05-02-2003 05:13 AM PT (US)

Rich Douglas Oscar® Winner	Lets just hope its not true.... What the heck is going on? This is getting really strange. Either all these composers being dropped is the most elaborate hoax ever planned, or basically.. it's real (sorry, couldn't resist). it's quite rediculous. Rich
posted 05-02-2003 09:34 AM PT (US)

Indysolo Oscar® Winner	Maybe they'll get Goldsmith to do this now. Neil
posted 05-02-2003 09:57 AM PT (US)

Norman McCay Oscar® Winner	Isn't Pirates supposed to come out in a couple of months? And they JUST canned Silvestri? Gee, sounds like the kind of job that Revell can do in two weeks, doesn't it? Some big conspiracy's running amuck....
posted 05-02-2003 10:13 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	Well, seeing that it's a Bruckhiemer production I'm thinking it will be something more Media Ventures in tone. It's becoming a real musical chairs in Hollywood these days.
posted 05-02-2003 10:30 AM PT (US)

Bradley Oscar® Winner	I'm sorry for Alan. That kind of sucks having your name on all the posters, trailers, etc. and then getting dumped. Well, if this is true and they are replacing him, I hope they get Debney. Maybe he can put together a score in the vein of Cutthroat Island.
posted 05-02-2003 10:50 AM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by ESB: It seems those Hollywood producers are freaking out and firing everybody at the slightest problem? Or are a lot of composers suddenly become much worse? Well, go figure out which of the two is correct. How about both? One does not exclude the other.
posted 05-02-2003 11:23 AM PT (US)

Philipp Oscar® Winner	Jeez, what a year! Anyone with a good memory can remember so many composers being rejected in one half year alone? I can´t... Philipp np: all that you can´t leave behind (U2) - very appropiate...
posted 05-02-2003 11:55 AM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	I won't start counting who was rejected and how many were. This is not the end of the world, but I do believe there were years with more rejected composers.
posted 05-02-2003 12:25 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	Since it's a Bruckhiemer pic I guess the score will know be a synth pounding, headache inducing MV score. While I wasn't too interested in the movie, I was kinda looking forward to Silvestri's score.
posted 05-02-2003 12:25 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	As with the Craig Armstrong thing earlier this week, unless a replacement composer is announced, it might be a tad bit premature to assume the worst.... Dan
posted 05-02-2003 03:43 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Oscar® Winner	Just because it might be Media Ventures, it doesn't mean it would be "synth pounding" and also, if it gives you a headache, don't listen to it. Anyway, I was looking forward to hearing Silvestri's score. I was hoping it would be a huge thematic score, but who knows. It still might be... Clayton NP>Confidence
posted 05-02-2003 03:46 PM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by scoreguy16: and also, if it gives you a headache, don't listen to it. Yes... ok... now maybe you would be willing to share your special new hi-tech guizmo which allows you to watch a movie and cut the music, without cutting the rest of the sound...? Oh but wait, how silly of me! Movie music was never meant to go with the picture, it's all about the CD!! By George, how misled I have become to even think that movie music would be heard in a movie.
posted 05-02-2003 07:34 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	I read over at a thread about this in scorereviews that who ever the new composer is, he/she has only a few weeks to do their job. Can I take it to mean (under the assumption Silvestri has been dropped) that Silvestri should have already recorded the score?
posted 05-02-2003 07:46 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Dinko: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by scoreguy16: [b]and also, if it gives you a headache, don't listen to it. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes... ok... now maybe you would be willing to share your special new hi-tech guizmo which allows you to watch a movie and cut the music, without cutting the rest of the sound...? Oh but wait, how silly of me! Movie music was never meant to go with the picture, it's all about the CD!! By George, how misled I have become to even think that movie music would be heard in a movie. [/B] At least the sound effects would drown out some of the crappy music, hopefully.
posted 05-02-2003 07:58 PM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	Indeed, Mark, we can always hope.
posted 05-02-2003 08:03 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Oscar® Winner	Gorfaine and Schwartz, Silvestri's agents, have been shopping other composers to the producers for about a week. I wonder how Music From The Movies missed this one, but managed to get Craig Armstrong off TOMB RAIDER wrong? Ryan
posted 05-02-2003 08:55 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	And with that.......another film score I won't have to buy this year. Jesus, I hope they don't ask Brian Tyler......like he's the only f*cking composer out there now. What they ALSO won't do is hire somebody like Morgan & Stromberg. That would be freakin' sweet. Anyway, Shaun
posted 05-02-2003 10:31 PM PT (US)

Squiddybop Oscar® Nominee	Get Broughton, Poledouris, or throw a whole lot of money at John Williams, please. (Though if the replacement is anyone from outside Media Ventures, I'll be shocked.)
posted 05-02-2003 11:06 PM PT (US)

Hector J. Guzman Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Philipp: Jeez, what a year! Anyone with a good memory can remember so many composers being rejected in one half year alone? I can´t... Philipp np: all that you can´t leave behind (U2) - very appropiate... and not just any composers, but top notch quality established ones. Pshtt... weird. NP. [b]Verdi[/i] "Triumphal March" from Aida The Boston Pops Orchestra John Williams
posted 05-02-2003 11:13 PM PT (US)

Hector J. Guzman Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: Well... I had heard things... but nothing I can CONFIRM. Dan Hehehe... I loved that part "I heard things... I heard things"... sorry couldn't help myself... a little Bobby DeNiro homage NP. Arban Carnival of Venice Wynton Marsalis, trumpet The Boston Pops Orchestra John Williams [Message edited by Hector J. Guzman on 05-02-2003]
posted 05-02-2003 11:18 PM PT (US)

ESB Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: I read over at a thread about this in scorereviews that who ever the new composer is, he/she has only a few weeks to do their job. Can I take it to mean (under the assumption Silvestri has been dropped) that Silvestri should have already recorded the score? No, he was in the middle of writing and has not recorded any music. The recording sessions were planned at the end of May. I've erased all information about this project at my site (I run the Silvestri site) and will not even list it as a rejected project. It's not like Mission: Impossible where he already recorded music. It's more like Tarzan where he walked out himself in an early phase. Too bad but it was just one film (a risky one too) and he has Stephen Sommers' Van Helsing and Robert Zemeckis' The Polar Express coming up, the two most expensive films ever! :-P And on those films Sommers and Zemeckis pull the strings ;-)
posted 05-03-2003 02:03 AM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford: What they ALSO won't do is hire somebody like Morgan & Stromberg. That would be freakin' sweet. Anyway, Shaun Shaun I would love to see that happen.
posted 05-03-2003 06:26 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	Ah yes...not a single note of music has been heard from a single composer for the film and suddenly we have: "Silverstri's score would have rocked!" "We'll probably get Media Ventures...and of course it will suck (because I can't see past my own nose)!" "Hopefully we can pay John Williams to give us another Harry Potter/Hook rehash. Sweet!" Why don't you just wait...listen to the music...judge it with the film, and then provide a reasoned, unbiased opinion. Difficult I know...but try it. Sure, I am upset that Silvestri is not attached any more, but I'm not willing to **** can the entire thing. Not yet.
posted 05-03-2003 08:12 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	Quill - nicely said! And this is why the composers (like Goldenthal) think the fans are insane freaks..... Dan
posted 05-03-2003 08:19 AM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	Well lets see I've been collecting film music for some 20+ years now and I have a pretty good variety of composers in my collection, I don't suffer from the "everything written after 1990 is the best ever" attitude. I think maybe just maybe I've gotten myself familiar with their work and their composing style enough to kinda get a grasp on what they might write for a particular movie. I've never been a fan of the scores for a Bruckheimer film and I was hoping, based on Silvestri's work for The Mummy Returns and having seen the previews for Pirates of the Caribbean that he would write something along that line, instead of the usual MV sound that I dislike. Of course I guess I should have just come out and said it will suck.
posted 05-03-2003 09:53 AM PT (US)

rkeaveney Oscar® Winner	It's nice that people here are cheering for Morgan/Stromberg, Broughton and Poledouris -- but it's up to the agents of these guys to get the jobs, not us! (I just get a little tired of reading those three suggestions everytime a scoring assignment opens up - sorry!) So if you're scratching your head when you read that Klaus Badelt is scoring PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN, know that his agent (or Hans!) got him the gig -- not our hypothesizing. Ryan
posted 05-03-2003 10:30 AM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Quill: Why don't you just wait...listen to the music...judge it with the film, and then provide a reasoned, unbiased opinion. Difficult I know...but try it. Because it would make for a very, very dull world. Humans have expectations. About life, about the gender of their kid, about silly little non-lifechanging things such as "What might a composer's mind come up with?" No expectations = death resulting from boredom. Simple as that. When those expectations are met or challenged, they provoke an emotional response. Emotions may be bad, but a world of drones would not be much better. Can't live with a world of expectations, biased opinions and emotional responses? Build a spaceship and move elsewhere.
posted 05-03-2003 11:24 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	I really wonder why some people frequent these film score boards.
posted 05-03-2003 02:18 PM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	Easy answer: to tell everyone else to shut up.
posted 05-03-2003 03:30 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	I actually was reading while I was registering for classes at my new college come this Fall. This blows, what's up with Hollywood today? --Brian NP: Gods and Generals
posted 05-03-2003 08:04 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: I actually was reading while I was registering for classes at my new college come this Fall. That's great! What are you reading? Is it any good? What's it about? Can we start a book club? What other amazing skills can you do while registering for classes? [sarcasm off] quote: This blows, what's up with Hollywood today? More specifically, and more realistically - shouldn't you be asking what's up with film composers these days?? Clearly they're not delivering what they're being asked to produce......... Food for thought! Dan
posted 05-04-2003 12:16 AM PT (US)

John Zimmer Oscar® Winner	Dan.....just because a score was regected doesn't mean it's bad. It's not the composer's fault they were regected. They didn't regect themselves. Jz
posted 05-04-2003 05:52 AM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	I'm not sure Dan meant that. He said that composers don't do what the moviemakers want, not that composers did bad scores. [Message edited by Dinko on 05-04-2003]
posted 05-04-2003 06:23 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	John - see what Dinko said. And of course, it's possible that there were other reasons beyond not delivering a score that didn't live up to their expectations.... I was just saying, don't forget that's a possibility too. Dan [Message edited by dgoldwas on 05-04-2003]
posted 05-04-2003 11:30 AM PT (US)

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