So, ya never know!

As to the score, no one would be more happy to see Goldsmith than all the Goldsmith fans here, of which I count myself among- but if we're thinking of new blood to allow into the franchise, here's my all-star audition list.

Alan Silvestri- high time he got a shot at this franchise
John Powell - Possibly a good orchestral opportunity
Joel Goldsmith - Why not keep it in the family, considering he can incorporate the theme we love and do well enough on his own (First Contact proved that)
Mark Mancina - Stretched out enough on his own whilst still keeping his "Speed" sensibilities, he might provide a score worth hearing.
David Arnold - Why not?
Don Davis - He'd jump at the chance and there's more than a few people here who liked Jurassic Park III's score to think he might be able to do something with this film.
Christopher Young - I like his scores, and he doesn't get enough due.

Whatever gets picked, I am singular on this point, though, no more releasing on GNP Crescendo. They've done a lot for Trek Music. But to be honest, their layouts for inlay card designs are crowded, tacky, and go for a more is more ideal instead of spreading things out and doing badly with what they did by choosin that route. The closest times they came to not being too bad were Generations and Insurrection, the latter being the best so far. Let's have the newer soundtracks companies have a shot. Decca, or hell, just give us a release on Sony Music! Unless Crescendo can update themselves totally throughout their artwork and show interest in making this new soundtrack a more concerted effort (the same goes for the film), few Trek Music fans will bother.

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Originally posted by Widescreen:
Whatever gets picked, I am singular on this point, though, no more releasing on GNP Crescendo.

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Well, don't expect THAT to change. They (basically) have a lock on the STAR TREK music franchise, and aren't going to give it up so easily!!

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Unless Crescendo can update themselves totally throughout their artwork and show interest in making this new soundtrack a more concerted effort (the same goes for the film), few Trek Music fans will bother.

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Are you serious?? As you JUST pointed out, it's about the MUSIC - Trek MUSIC fans WILL buy it regardless of the artwork. It hasn't stopped them before, and so why should it stop them now??

And anyways, as you pointed out, the releases have been getting better in the last couple of years - so who is to say that when this new film's score is released, it won't be an even bigger improvement?

Dan

About the FX...they better go back to ILM. The complete CGI work with Insurrection was horrid.

I am in fact serious, I grew up on the excellent pacakging MCA did for Star Treks IV and VI- none will match Capitol's job on the vinyl version of Star Trek III. There's always something extra in these releases- but I have always thought GNP Crescendo's layouts were awful. That's just my opinion.
I can't speak for the fans, and I don't know if they have such discerning tastes as to what they're looking out as they listen. However, I do, and unfortunately, every Crescendo release (even as good as the new layouts seem to be) has jumbled looking layouts. It doesn't look professional many times (case in point: Star Trek: First Contact- though I do like that score very much).

I am grateful to Crescendo for their re-release of II and III, but even then, the packaging didn't seem quite right to me- and as you may have guessed, that is a considerable part of my enjoyment of soundtracks. I won't not buy a score based on it's cover, I don't see myslef being that ridiculous, but it is subject to some constructive opinion.

As far as the arrangement between Crescendo and Paramount, admittedly, I hope they don't give up the ship. But they better start making their stuff look A LOT better.

It is possible, is it not, for those involved in all the peripheral marketing that goes along with this Trek film as yet to be to have totally different collateral. They may decide they want everything, and I mean everything, right down to the paperback novelizations to look absolutely impeccable, like their livelihoods depended on putting their heart and soul into the product to make it at least look good as well as the rest of the product at it's core. It is reasonable to note that each time they rollout product for a film, regardless of which film it is, it is not necessarily always marketed with a lot of attention and care to such detail, unless it is designed with the intention of being a cash provider for the source studio. But they used to with Star Trek. I see no reason why they can't do it again. And while I am not responsible for it's packaging, if I were involved, and knowing how important the success of this film is to the franchise, i would take greater care and attention to it.

I can only say I am one that thinks this way, and I appreciate some of these cosmetic semantics when it looks they worked hard on it. Unfortunately, I simply don't agree that Crescendo does. It doesn't look like they did. They look rushed most of the time. I think the movies of Star Trek deserve better. That's a little surreal to say, but I grew up on the movies, and they were so much bigger than life for the entertainment value. I'm sorry to say from film to marketing throughout, Star Trek has lost that.

Would that be solved by severing ties with Crescendo? Even I will admit no. But there's a lot on the line, and a lot of fans I've talked to, even die hard ones think if they see one more half-assed effort on everything to do with the next feature, it will take a great deal of something intangible that Paramount may have already lost to get them to spend their hard-earned cash on something that only half-pleases them. But that's the ones I've talked to, and to their credit, that is their opinion, and one I share. The rest of Trek fans, you're right, what's going to stop them.
But it would be wrong to think they don't consider the artwork important- at least only some of them.

In any case, best wishes to all those out there on this project. I miss the glory of those early films. Maybe they can give me that entertainment again now, as an adult. I hope they do, but if the last couple of films and their soundtrack releases are any indication, I have my doubts.

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An addendum: will there be any interviews with GNP Crescendo anytime soon at filmmusic.com? Perhaps some of my theories could undergo a change by reading about what they do when they prepare a soundtrack for release.

The idea of doing an interview/article on a record company and how they go about releasing a soundtrack has been a "pet project" of SoundtrackNet's for a long time - we would love to follow a project from the time the composer is hired, to the time the CD is released. Unfortunately, schedule conflicts and mere lack of time make that (currently) a pipe dream.

In the meantime, though, any suggestions and thoughts you have on the GNP CDs should be sent to Mark Banning, who art-directs all of those releases.

Feel free to email me personally if you need contact information.

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Originally posted by Widescreen:
I am in fact serious, I grew up on the excellent pacakging MCA did for Star Treks
IV and VI- none will match Capitol's job on the vinyl version of Star Trek III.
There's always something extra in these releases- but I have always thought GNP
Crescendo's layouts were awful. That's just my opinion.

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You know, while I think they look fine myself, and love and appreciate all GNP has done for Star Trek Music. I have to say, I am more interested in seeing a release that doesn't call out for expansion the way their other titles do. Maybe it's just me?!

Regards,
Sean Robert Abbey

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Originally posted by Foobsie:
Hans Zimmer is doing the score

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http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/trek10.html

Scroll down to August 15th, ladies and gentlemen.

Hopefully this rumor was only brought about because of Lancelot's post from a while back.

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Originally posted by Lancelot:
Dry wit is lost on some people, though.

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Hehehehehehehe...
Look who's talking!!