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    Topic:   Desperation at the Rumor Mill...

     Lancelot
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    The word is that Berman and Paramount are going to Media Ventures to score the next Star Trek film....

    Desperate for information that you have no way to prove? Anxious to lash out at unsubstantiated claims you have no control over? Look no further than the message boards....

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    posted 07-20-2001 02:08 PM PT (US)     

     wistiti
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    Media Ventures is getting annoying. Too much of a good thing can do that sometimes. And though I like most MV style scores, I'm getting very tired of seeing MV everywhere.

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    posted 07-20-2001 02:12 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Nah... come on, it's Jerry man. Jerry's gonna do it.

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    posted 07-20-2001 05:00 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    QED, thank you both for proving my point.

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    posted 07-20-2001 06:14 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    I think Jerry will do it also, I can't see Zimmer and co doing a "Trek" score.

    --Bri

    NP: Land Before Time (Horner)

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    posted 07-20-2001 11:52 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    Heck, people already want to string up Berman and Co. for what they've done. This would put them over the edge.

    Still, with Berman's lack of knowledge/taste of most things musical, it wouldn't suprise me.

    Kevin

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    posted 07-21-2001 10:20 AM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    There is razor-thin humor in this, but for some you need a mallet....

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    posted 07-21-2001 11:45 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Glad I could participate, Steve.

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    posted 07-21-2001 04:59 PM PT (US)     

     Dave
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    I like MV...but I think we need Goldsmith and no one else for Trek.

    dave

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    posted 07-21-2001 05:50 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    I know some folks around here think I'm a pretty humorless prick, but this is a cynical fabrication brought you via my own sardonic wit, induced by heated mass-ramblings over soundtracks that haven't even been released or recorded yet, (Planet of the Apes, Enterprise) and thus lead people to pre-judical opinions on the (as of yet) unheard outcome....

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    posted 07-21-2001 09:38 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    But even if you've heard it, you still can't pass judgment. You have to see the music as it was intended before any judgment can be made. Yet, I wonder why so many companies release movie music without the movie. Now that I think about it, the record labels are the cause of all of this pre-judgmental chaos that's gripping our community....

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    posted 07-21-2001 09:42 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    PeterK, it's rare, but when it happens, it's like gold! I am in 100% TOTAL agreement with you.

    A score is written FOR THE FILM.

    Judging it simply by listening to the album without having seen the film is completely removing it from the context in which it was written.

    While many times I can't see the film before reviewing the score (and I HATE it when that happens), I try my hardest to see the film and (therefore) hear the score in context BEFORE reviewing the album.

    Sure people review scores without seeing the films, and say that they're reviewing it as a "listening experience" - and that's all fine and good. But it kinda defeats the whole point of the music's existence - it was written for the film.

    Some scores might sound awful on CD. Just terrible. But in the film, it might work exceptionally well. But you also might find that a CD that you thought was awful takes on new context and meaning after seeing the film - and then you LOVE the CD. (Go figure!)

    So, while I've heard PLANET OF THE APES, I'm NOT going to run and review it (like some people did) UNTIL I see the film. Same went for JURASSIC PARK III and FINAL FANTASY. That said, think what you will about the CD as a purely "listening" experience - but don't rag on the score until you've heard it in the context of the film for which it was written.

    Dan

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    posted 07-21-2001 11:03 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Dammit, I guess my sarcasm didn't register. I thought this thread was about sarcasm. Lancelot, can you help me out here?

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    posted 07-21-2001 11:40 PM PT (US)     

     wistiti
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:

    A score is written FOR THE FILM.

    Judging it simply by listening to the album without having seen the film is completely removing it from the context in which it was written.


    Except its often better NOT to see the movie. There are cases when the movie is so bad, seeing it will ruin the listening experience of the score.

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    posted 07-22-2001 05:27 AM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    I'm beyond help.

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    posted 07-22-2001 10:35 AM PT (US)     

     Mark Olivarez
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    Lancelot don't worry your humor isn't lost on all of us.

    As for the rest hell IF the theme isn't written by someone you like hit the damn mute button on the remote, works for me when I don't want to hear something or someone.

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    posted 07-22-2001 12:35 PM PT (US)     
     

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