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Jeron Oscar® Winner	This is a truly stellar achievement - an incredible adventure score that belongs in everyone's collection. I'm up at 4:XX in the morning and haven't gone to sleep yet... yes, I'm insane. It's that good. Let's hear what you think... and in the mean time, check out my review. Sound clips should be up very soon (right, Peter??). Jeron
posted 05-22-2001 02:30 AM PT (US)

Scorefanatic Oscar® Nominee	Atlantis is out and it's really great! There are a lot of beautiful themes, great mickey mousing-cues and bombastic action tracks. I would say it's better than last year's Dinosaur because of its unbelievable variation. My favourite tracks are The Submarine and all tracks from The Crystal Chamber (14) to the final track: Atlantis which has only 2 minutes play time. I wonder if there will be a longer end credits suite in the film. One theme as heard in track 14/15 reminds me of the Unbreakable theme. The only dissapointment on the CD is the song performed by Mya although JNH has wrote it (with diane warren). There were a lot of better disney song in the past! Every score fan should purchase this album. The best score this year by now IMHO! ***/*** Scorefanatic
posted 05-22-2001 04:49 AM PT (US)

John Dunham Oscar® Winner	It's great... and darn, I wish I had it. Maybe I can pick it up tomorrow. NP: Tombstone, Broughton *****
posted 05-22-2001 10:47 AM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	Jeron's review, synopsis: gushgushgushgushgushgushgushgush"knack for scoring action sequences"gushgushgushgushgushgush"make your purchase now." it is a sweet score, though
posted 05-22-2001 11:49 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Probable: Jeron's review, synopsis: gushgushgushgushgushgushgushgush"knack for scoring action sequences"gushgushgushgushgushgush"make your purchase now." Hey, what's wrong with gushing? That's all I can seem to do when commenting on this score... that must say something. Jeron
posted 05-22-2001 12:32 PM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Darn it, my importer hasn't got it yet! Dan (UK) [Message edited by Dan Brecher on 05-22-2001]
posted 05-22-2001 12:41 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: *Hey, what's wrong with gushing? That's all I can seem to do when commenting on this score... that must* say something. Jeron Well it just makes the review sound cheesy and a bit biased. But no big deal, at least you're contributing to the site. And it is a great score. Np- Pearl Harbor /****
posted 05-22-2001 12:45 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	LOL! "It makes the review sound biased." Uhh.... am I missing something? Audio clips are up, kids!
posted 05-22-2001 12:49 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Scorefanatic: The only dissapointment on the CD is the song performed by Mya although JNH has wrote it (with diane warren). There were a lot of better disney song in the past! I avoided commenting on the song in my review simply because I couldn't find an appropriate place to mention it. If you typically enjoy "Disney pop songs," you'll more than likely enjoy "Where the Dream Takes You," which does expand on a theme in the score. I find it to be complimentary to the album.
posted 05-22-2001 12:49 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: LOL! "It makes the review sound biased." Uhh.... am I missing something? Audio clips are up, kids! Yeah you know, like its some kinda commercial.
posted 05-22-2001 12:54 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Let me go read some of TimT's reviews and see if they sound like "commercials." I just bet some of 'em do.
posted 05-22-2001 12:57 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	Hey! Actually you tell me, which ones do. I strive not to sound that way. [Message edited by TimT on 05-22-2001]
posted 05-22-2001 12:58 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Tim, all of your reviews are biased. When it comes to sounding like "commercials," (which is not what "bias" really means), you got a few of them, too. I didn't read them all just now, but I notice your comments on Vertical Limit are very similar in tone as Jeron's Atlantis. Let's not confuse the issue any more though. Being biased is a good thing (although I don't think "biased" is a good word to use to describe preferences, or inclinations, as it infers negativity). If you are excited about a score and you like it, be honest. If your words sounds like a commercial when you talk about it, is it such a big deal? If it is, write up your own comments! The link is right there in front of your mouse pointer.... And yes, thanks to both you and Jeron for contributing. People like to read what others think, and I am glad the place gives you an opportunity to develop your thoughts (and writing skills, too). It's cool, and would be great if more people like you and Jeron contributed more (and a special thanks to all who have contributed; we all appreciate it).
posted 05-22-2001 01:17 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	Vertical Limit.... thats not gushing. Well, We now return to Atlantis - The Lost Empire ........ It's out!!! Whatcha think?? There will be no further interruptions. I only lisnted to the CD once, but not with my full attention yet. It sounds way over the top.
posted 05-22-2001 01:19 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Gushing? Tim, if it's a dripping faucet or a raging river, it's still water.
posted 05-22-2001 01:22 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	Tell Probable.
posted 05-22-2001 01:24 PM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	I gathered Jeron liked it...you want a biased review Tim...go read Shaun's for Pearl Harbor...feel the hate flow through you....
posted 05-22-2001 02:36 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	"Atlantis" is great. It blows PH ouft of the water, pun intended Everyone get it. --Brian NP: Pearl Harbor
posted 05-22-2001 02:44 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	You're so funny, Brian... One thing I failed to mention in my review was that Atlantis could (probably) best be described as the result of what Waterworld, Stargate, and Cutthroat Island might sound like if put in a blender and set on frape. The final product is great, and definitely stays with you long after the cd stops playing. [Message edited by Jeron on 05-22-2001]
posted 05-22-2001 03:49 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	I know I'm funny --Brian NP: Pearl Harbor
posted 05-22-2001 04:00 PM PT (US)

Justin Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: and definitely stays with you long after the cd stops playing.[/B] I agree as I am still humming the Submarine track 3 hours after hearing it at Jeron's house
posted 05-22-2001 04:38 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	You know...I say this with much shame...but at the beginning of James Newton Howard's carreer are just couldn't stand the guy, the name alone made me crinch. Then I heard Waterworld and Wyatt Earp and loved the music...still resented the composer. Now, years later and the wiser (I hope, but Jeron may disagree) I find this man to be one of Hollywood's tops. He certainly has made me a believer. Dinosaur is still a heavy fave in my playing drum these days and it will be complemented by the sounds of what is Atlantis. This guy seems not to be able to dissapoint. Vertical Limit was a great score but I find that Atlantis tops it. Yes, we have a funny, mickey-mousing composer here all of the sudden. The images he invokes through his mulitcolored assortments of audial stimuli is awe-inspiriing. The drums, the chorus, the melodies the ethnic values. Sheer triumph. Simply the best score of the year. One beef perhaps. Not enough of the main theme...but I can live with that. NP: Atlantis, if the actual island was as grand and exciting and as beautiful as this score...then it was awesome indeed.
posted 05-22-2001 07:47 PM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	Tell me what? Yeah, Atlantis and JNH are both good. I agree! Well said! Gushing implies water flowing quickly, usually (but not always) in large quantities. Implications are not definitions, however. Interpret what you will.
posted 05-22-2001 08:38 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Gushing? Oil gushing? Call the president... NP: By Request: The Best of John Williams & The Boston Pops - "The Mission (NBC News theme)" Philips 420 178-2 DIGITAL DDD Music Composed and Conducted by John Williams. Tracks 1,5,6,8,9,11,12,14 produced by John McClure Tracks 2,3,4,7,10,13,15 produced by George Korngold. Art Direction by Dennis Mukai (this guy needs a new job) Design/Illustration: Peter Nomura and John Hamagami (so do these two) Made in the USA -- Printed in the USA ©1987 Phonogram International B.V. just to pee off people who don't like the NP things. [Message edited by jonathan_little on 05-22-2001]
posted 05-22-2001 08:52 PM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	I have a question: do you have to stand on someone to pee off of them? NP: Willow
posted 05-22-2001 08:54 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Probable: I have a question: do you have to stand on someone to pee off of them? NP: Willow I prefer to stand on a roof above a doorway... NP: See above, now the Star Wars Main Title
posted 05-22-2001 08:56 PM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	That's peeing on them.
posted 05-22-2001 08:57 PM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Boo!! Just listened to the sound clips. Sounds horrible. Another flippin CD I've GOT to buy. Damn it, my bank will NOT be pleased. NP Those Atlantis Clips. Bah. Too good not to buy the CD.
posted 05-23-2001 07:04 AM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	peeing OFF someone? peeing someone off? peeing off OF someone? peeing OFF of someone ONTO someone else? were does the madness end?
posted 05-23-2001 07:22 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	Shunned by Ciruit City last night...those bastards. Must find...must have...Jeron's gushing sold me....
posted 05-23-2001 07:39 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Damn it, fellas, I am up to my knees in pee here. Still waiting for my blasted stockist to get it in stock. Dan (UK)
posted 05-23-2001 07:51 AM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	just don't tell him to piss off until you get the CD in...
posted 05-23-2001 08:19 AM PT (US)

BobaMike Oscar® Winner	Atlantis was everywhere I looked, I grabbed my copy on a whim at mediaplay. Atlantis is just one more reason why James Newton Howard has become one of my top 3 composers. (Williams, Goldsmith, JNH)! All his recent scores since the 6th Sense have been great- especially Dinosaur. I'm only half way through the cd, but man-that main theme is great! Loads of atmostphere...I think I will be playing this one more than any other summer film! BobaMike
posted 05-23-2001 08:30 AM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Hmmm. Just found the clips at CDNow. Damn. I've got to buy it now. sighs resignedly NP Atlantis clips
posted 05-23-2001 10:49 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	You didn't find any at MovieMusic.com?
posted 05-23-2001 10:53 AM PT (US)

BobaMike Oscar® Winner	Peter, I've been meaning to ask you- does the one dollar shipping apply to the cheap 11 dollar cds? Or do they have to be normal price cds? BobaMike
posted 05-23-2001 11:00 AM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Yes, I already found the clips. But CDNow have more. Don't worry, I'm not going to buy it off them. Maybe I might get it from MM. Hmm, is there any deal on with shipping to UK? And if not - why not? Incidentally, does anyone know when it (the CD) is released in the UK. I think the film isn't due until October, or something, so I guess I'm really gonna have to import this one... NP Still Atlantis clips [Message edited by Pete M on 05-23-2001]
posted 05-23-2001 11:00 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Boba, it applies to any 3 soundtracks, $5.97 and up (I think that's the cheapest price around here). Pete M, there are too many costs involved in offering cheap shipping outside the USA. There are some other kinds of sales ideas brewing though.
posted 05-23-2001 11:13 AM PT (US)

KyleS Oscar® Winner	I ran out and bought ATLANTIS immediately after I read this thread. Wow! JNH is quickly becoming one of my favorite composers. A lot of this score sounds like parts of "Waterworld" and "Vertical Limit" though. I'm willing to look past that though because it's such a beautiful score. Great use of synths and voices. Thanks for the recomendations everyone!
posted 05-24-2001 09:02 AM PT (US)

John Dunham Oscar® Winner	I finally got Atlantis. As a die-hard JNH fan of several years, I love it. NP: Atlantis, JNH
posted 05-25-2001 11:07 AM PT (US)

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