The closest thing this resembles is the "Gremlin Rag" from the end credits of original "Gremlins" (definitely NOT a move I was anticipating given the film trailers!) In fact, I don't think he's used one particular synth sample SINCE "Gremlins!" You'll know it when you hear it.

So, okay, start with the "Gremlin Rag," which it closely resembles in general shape and orchestration. Tone down the tempo and beat. Make no mistake, it's not lethargic ... it's always moving. It's just less manic. Then remove the kind of darkly comic edge "Gremlins" had, and replace that sadistic twist with a kind of European melancholy ... DAMN this is hard to explain!

After ALL of the dust has settled, then and only then, shall I listen to this one.

1.) Damnit, this is terrible! Sounds vaguely comic, and yes, like Gremlins (and Under Fire). Like those scores, but really, really out of place in a "serious" film about a serial killer.

2.) While I don't remember ever hearing this, the fact that it's listed as "End Credits" and that its running time is only 4:40 tells me that this might not actually be Along Came A Spider. I mean, it sounds like Goldsmith, but everything in this track sounds like Goldsmith of the 80s. The BAD 80s.

3.) This is really, really bad.

Looking forward to it anyway. Might even see the movie. Lee Tamahori is a kickass director at his best, and might surprise me with this rather routine-looking picture. Morgan Freeman is always worth watching, even though he frequently lends his talent to pictures not deserving of it (but what actor, good, bad or indifferent, does not? Nobody SETS OUT to make a bad film, except for those inexplicable hordes of Ed Wood manques.)

For those of you who have this CD within your possession, please tell more. I demand a better description than "catnip!"

As you've probably figured out, the score is kinda creepy, but for the most part it's suspenseful and action-oriented material. Shaun will be pleased to know there are zero synth drums. Lots of piano stuff (ie. Hollow Man, "Isabelle Escapes.")

Cool heroic type suspense "let's find this weirdo" theme... cool meters, as usual. Definitely a winner, though the cd ends rather unexpectadely- but that's my only complaint. And that's not even a biggie to me.

Wish there was more!!

Jeron

Is Goldsmith's 'sudden unexpected ending' a new trend for him? I hope not. Hollow Man, to me, ended very much in the same manner.

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Al, it's basically a cross between Hollow Man and U.S. Marshalls. Goldsmith employees some new synth effects plus 1 familiar one (heard in Hollow Man, "Find Him."). The first track features some interesting techno-like backbeats that fade in and out during the creepiness. It bleeds into the second track, which immediately throws you into stock Goldsmith action. I love it!

As you've probably figured out, the score is kinda creepy, but for the most part it's suspenseful and action-oriented material. Shaun will be pleased to know there are zero synth drums. Lots of piano stuff (ie. Hollow Man, "Isabelle Escapes.")

Cool heroic type suspense "let's find this weirdo" theme... cool meters, as usual. Definitely a winner, though the cd ends rather unexpectadely- but that's my only complaint. And that's not even a biggie to me.

Wish there was more!!

Jeron

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Oh great! I read US Marshalls sucked! and I strongly do not like Hollw Man! Looks like my money will be going elsewhere.

Honestly, I didn't expect you to get "Spider" in the first place......

Regardless, Along Came a Spider is Goldsmith - and it is a lot of fun. Those who enjoy Jerry's work will undoubtedly enjoy this cd.

I just downloaded that suppos-ed "End Titles" track. What the HECK is that?! It's not Link... and it's not Warlock. It's definitely a Goldsmith composition, I have no doubt. There's some synth stuff from his Extreme Prejudice score used... and yeah, I can hear where you'd compare it to the Gremlins Rag, but that's just cause of the synth drums.

I really wanna know where this track is from... it's gotta be an early-80's effort. How weird!! Whoever titled it "Along Came a Spider - End Titles" HAD to have been playing a really dirty April Fool's joke. The only problem with that is, some are gonna download it and not know difference... how sad.

If you didn't enjoy Hollow Man, I doubt you'd enjoy U.S. Marshals. You might enjoy the last track from that score though--there's a great fanfare at the end.

Jeron,

Never mind. Your recent email did not work either. It's not the 'Music of the Day' files which are freezing up my email. It's how you've been sending them recently (looking all fancy with a purty red ribbon). If you send any emails to me not in that form, I should be able to open them.

Sincerely keeping it together,

Me

The attachment you got is probably the Verisign Digital ID add-on I signed up for. I thought it would be neat... but apparently it's causing problems. Sooooo, I've disabled it. No more Verisign.

Jeron has no viruses, trust him.

Yikes, did I just speak in third person?!

I'm in Goldsmithland...

For now... I am in sweet suspense.

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As a faithful supporter of Moviemusic.com, I have ordered this score from here and shall wait for it to arrive.

For now... I am in sweet suspense.

NP: Young's "In Too Deep"

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PS: It's OK for Jerry to copy is own Executive Decision...but Horner can't do it in Enemy at the Gates...what's the deal?

NP- On the Beach

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Its 34 mins with about 5 min of enjoyable music. Pick it up as soon as you can!

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Tim, that's totally unfair. You don't have the cd, you haven't heard the cd, and you're not even a big Goldsmith fan. Frankly, I don't see where you are in the position to comment.

Quill, he didn't copy Executive Decision. The score Spider is most similar to is U.S. Marshalls with a little Hollow Man for grins. While there are similarities, allow me to clarify that they are only slight, stylistic similarities. I won't get into the Horner debate. There are other threads that are humoring that silly discussion.

Goldsmith defendant,
Jeron

when Godzilla does an ordinary suspense thriller.

crash, roar, boom.

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(too bad we've all moved out of the melody phase of cinema when there were rich pickings and people to relate to, instead of figures running around saying "fu-k" and blowing sh't up in easily pitched snippets. Random ad copy. That's the kind of movie that gets the sounds they deserve so $%&^ em!...but I'm digressing!)

(how would I know, have I actually heard it? hmmm)

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Tim, that's totally unfair. You don't have the cd, you haven't heard the cd, and you're not even a big Goldsmith fan. Frankly, I don't see where you are in the position to comment.

Goldsmith defendant,
Jeron

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Uh'hem. Yes I have heard the score, and I don't have to be a "big" Goldsmith fan in order to enjoy it.
I actually do like Jerry Goldsmith, I recognize him as one of the best film composer around today. However! I'm not afraid to tell you when he does something totally uninteresting.
Now I tell you, there was only 5 mins (approx.) of music that I think is interesting from this CD.

I'm glad I had a chance to listen to this before deciding to buy it.

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[B]Uh'hem. Yes I have heard the score, and I don't have to be a "big" Goldsmith fan in order to enjoy it. I actually do like Jerry Goldsmith, I recognize him as one of the best film composer around today. However! I'm not afraid to tell you when he does something totally uninteresting.[B]

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When we had last spoke, you had not heard it. As far as your assessment of the score goes, fair 'nuff. But again I say... different strokes. I find it to be a very enjoyable listen. It's definitely not uninteresting (to me). Of course, I like U.S. Marshalls, too... and Hollow Man for that matter. So don't rely on what I say.

Jeron

Again, Goldsmith does not dissapoint. This is a fantastic score. 5 minutes enjoable? My butt! This is a score that surpasses from beginning to end. I like it more than Hollowman.

Goldsmith gives ample examples of how he is the master or rythim. The interlaced, constant changing beats and sounds remimds me of the Goldsmith of old (Rambo, etc).

TimT a little advice, perhaps you should listen to certain scores more than just ones...could change your mind...could open up new possibilties. But, somehow or another, I doubt you will give my proposition even half a chance. The rest of you, get this cd, it's worth it and you'll get a little more than 5 min of enjoyment out of it...about 29 min more.

Scott the priss

I was very happy to see the musicians listed in the non-existant liner notes. They should get credit more often. Also, did Morgan Freeman compose this? All I see is pictures of him in the liner notes.