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Topic: fingerprints on your CD cases
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dantoris

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If there's anything I hate more than a 30 minute Varese release, it's my own finger-prints on my cases. A shirt or cloth will normally get them right off, usually just smudging them and making the whole situation worst. What's the best way to keep the cases clean, or is that about all you can do?[This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 23 March 2000).]
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posted 03-23-2000 06:42 PM PT (US) ip
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Richard

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Yeah! And I really, really Hate it when your friends come over, take the glossy bookletts outta the cases and smudge all of the pages with their fingers, but when you say "hey go easy" they bite your head off.  Grrrrrrrr'
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posted 03-23-2000 06:55 PM PT (US) ip
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Alwin

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I totally agree with both of you. In addition to smudging my cases, I hate it when they get scratched. Arrrgghhh! And ditto goes for the liner notes as well. I usually hold it by the edges - it doesn't make for comfortable reading though.NP: Twister
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posted 03-23-2000 07:36 PM PT (US) ip
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Scott

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Remedy,don't touch 'em. Scott
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posted 03-23-2000 08:07 PM PT (US) ip
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Dawk

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I used to have that problem, I just slice off my fingertips when I want to handle the CDs but then I realized that blood stains ain't no picnic either.. *sigh* just can't win these days. They need SMUDGE-PROOF PLASTIC!!!!!!Ok, I'm through venting -Dawk
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posted 03-23-2000 09:24 PM PT (US) ip
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James

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Wear medical gloves.[This message has been edited by James (edited 24 March 2000).]
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posted 03-24-2000 12:56 PM PT (US) ip
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JEC
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May I suggest: http://www.bagsunlimited.com/ I recently bought some CD sleeve protectors from them. They slip over the jewel case and keep them from getting smudged and cracked.
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posted 03-24-2000 01:24 PM PT (US) ip
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MWRuger

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Better the case than the CD. After all, that is what it is designed for.
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posted 03-24-2000 02:32 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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Well... It seems that about half of the CDs I buy come with broken jewel cases. If I order them online, broken jewel case... If I pick one up in the store, it's got broken jewel case. I really don't care if there are smudges all over the darn things, just as long as they're in one piece!Too bad all those AOL CDs that come in the mail don't include a jewel case -- or else I would be using them for spare parts! 
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posted 03-24-2000 03:19 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron

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Yeah - I'm all about keeping cds in MINT condition. In fact, there are a few cds that I buy two copies of, just to store one away "in case" something happens OR so when it goes OOP and I'm 60 years old, I'll still have a nice copy... of course, by that time I'm sure everything will have had a reissue... I hope.One things that REALLY GETS ON MY NERVES is yes, when my friends come over and take the books out of the cd cases, getting fingerprints all over 'em. Also, when they put the dang book back into the case and don't thread it through the little thingies that hold it in place... when they close the case, it puts a half-moon indention into the book... ooooooh, I get mad when that happens. Grrrrr. =) Gosh, that felt good. Jeron
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posted 03-24-2000 05:58 PM PT (US) ip
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Dawk

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hah hah, seriously though, I would never REALLY touch my CDs, or the precious cases they come in (I mean, c'mon.. it's not like that kind of plastic was a mere chemical biproduct worth less than a candy bar). I have a good time just closing my eyes and imagining what the music would sound like if I dared to come close to the cds with my filthy hand oils. (layin' it on thick) Dawk
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posted 03-24-2000 10:47 PM PT (US) ip
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Cole

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Hope it feels nice to vent about your obsessive compulsive tendencies Jeron. makes me smile. hehehe "grrrrrrr" did it feel good?
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posted 03-24-2000 11:48 PM PT (US) ip
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Jennie

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...You guys are hilarious!! You guys can't get fingerprint smudges off of your CD cases? Are you sure? It's so easy!! Maybe I'm thinking of something else...but getting just fingerprint smudges off the plastic cases is simple...but I don't wanna look stupid so I'll just see if I'm talking about the same thing YOU guys are talking about...
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posted 03-25-2000 04:47 PM PT (US) ip
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Scott

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Jennie, I am with you. In fact, when the cases start getting bad, I just buy new ones. Very easy and economical indeed. Jeron, the money tree in your backyard I would love to have in my backyard. No body touches my cd until they have been certified in handeling them properly. Scott
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posted 03-25-2000 07:27 PM PT (US) ip
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JJH

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I conduct criminal background investigations before handing out my CDs to someone.hand a CD to someone, and it's liable to become their new coaster for the coffee table. JJ, speaking from experience!
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posted 03-25-2000 10:07 PM PT (US) ip
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sabbey

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Personally I hate those slots on the top and bottom of the cases, where the tabs for the liner booklet are. Maybe it's just me, but I think whoever designed it, was stupid, since the idea of an jewel case is to protect the disc, especially from dust. However dust can settle into those slots rather easy.Any ways, I just line the top of the cases with paper towels, and replace them every other month or two. Am I anal or what?  As for other people handling my discs. I don't think so!  If they want to listen to the music, they can listen to it on my stereo, though I will handle it myself. I like the CDs took care an certain way, that's just the way I am. Regards, Sean Robert Abbey [This message has been edited by sabbey (edited 26 March 2000).]
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posted 03-26-2000 07:01 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

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Seriously: I sometimes spend several minutes to get a booklet out of a jewel case, only not to scratch it. I also dislike the packaging of the new Superman release, because I have to keep the CD in that paper thingy in order to keep it together with the booklet. Sooner or later, that paper case will look horrible. Another problem is my CE3K CD, where one edge was damaged before I got it. And also the "teeth" holding the CD are broken. This happens often, but usually, you can replace the jewel case...
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posted 03-26-2000 12:11 PM PT (US) ip
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Jennie

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Hehe...I was reading this thread again...and I can't help but laugh again. Heehee...but I know everyone has their own opinions and pet peeves. But I didn't realize all you guys were so picky about those plastic cases. hehe...but ya know, I'm still confused on those fingerprint smudges. Haha...they're so easy to get out! Have you guys tried using a kleenex or towel or something like that?
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posted 03-26-2000 03:25 PM PT (US) ip
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sabbey

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quote: Originally posted by Jennie: Hehe...I was reading this thread again...and I can't help but laugh again. Heehee...but I know everyone has their own opinions and pet peeves. But I didn't realize all you guys were so picky about those plastic cases. hehe...but ya know, I'm still confused on those fingerprint smudges. Haha...they're so easy to get out! Have you guys tried using a kleenex or towel or something like that?
That's the way I clean them, since it's not really that big of an deal. I pretty much *only* replace the cases when it is either broken, has deep scratches or cracks, or the case does not shut properly. Other than that my only pet peeve would be about the slots I mentioned before.  Regards, Sean Robert Abbey
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posted 03-26-2000 09:28 PM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar

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I do it the easy way and keep my CDs in a sealed dust and air free vacuum chamber. So if I wish to play a disc, I have to put on a pressure suit and oxygen tanks in order to get to them anyway. Naturally there are never any prints on my CD cases.NP: Nothing, the oxygen tanks need a refill first.
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posted 03-27-2000 03:35 AM PT (US) ip
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Audacity

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Jennie,Maybe all these guys eat a lot of chocolate while they listen to music so they have chocolate laden fingerprints all over the CDs. I expected someone to say that they have about 3 or 4 of those huge Sony 200 disk capacity CD changers. That way you would never have to touch your CDs. Audacity NP Bird on a Wire (Hans Zimmer)***1/2
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posted 03-28-2000 07:34 AM PT (US) ip
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H Rocco
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I simply find it easier not to take them out of the wrappers to begin with. If they're used CDs, as they often are, then I tend to leave them in the paper bags they came in. (I really hate actually opening used CDs and seeing what awful things have been done to them by such artless savages as would unwrap them to begin with.) For extra protection, I may even leave them in my backpack. This can go on for weeks, until the pack is so crammed with used CDs that it becomes a pain to haul around, and I have to take out some of the paper bags. I do hate leaving the house without some of my collection on my back, though, as I know it can only ever be safe with me.NP: nothing, are you crazy? I'd have to take them out.
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posted 03-28-2000 09:59 AM PT (US) ip
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Scott

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And I thought I needed counseling.Scott
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posted 03-28-2000 12:14 PM PT (US) ip
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Valere

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I have to agree with you,Marian about the Superman Booklet.It seems like they had to make it oversize so you couldn't get it into the case. However,I keep it next to the case on the shelf. As to the rest of this dissertation,If I buy them used,I generally put them into a new case,only if they are really trashed.Have also found a little lighter fluid and a paper towel will take sticker goo off of em! NP: EL CID!Coronation! Excellent re-recording[This message has been edited by Valere (edited 28 March 2000).]
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posted 03-28-2000 11:23 PM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar

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H Rocco is on to something there. If you leave the plastic wrapper around CDs, you don't need a vacuum environment to keep them dust free. That's what I call straight thinking.Anyway, in the past I have considered chartering one of those European Ariane rockets to blast my CD collection into space. Imagine, if they are on a stable elliptical path around the sun, chances are there will never be any smudges, fingerprints, or scratches on them. Sadly, I have been unable to execute this idea so far because of budgetary reasons. However, if a few of you people here will chip in, we could perhaps do it together. There should be enough loading capacity on an Ariane for several of our beloved collections. It will still be expensive, sure, but keep in mind that this way they will even survive earthquakes and nuclear explosions. The best should be barely good enough for our treasures. Think about it.
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posted 03-29-2000 06:17 AM PT (US) ip
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Audacity

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Nicolai,Before I invest in such an endeavor, I need some sort of guarantee that they will in fact be safe. What I need from you are statistics showing exactly how many orbiting satellites have been struck by micro-meteorites or other orbiting debry, and if struck was it enough to destroy the vessel? What are your contingency plans for such an event? Maybe we should all make copies of every one of our scores. That way we can store back up copies on the bottom of the ocean just in case the Armageddon like Asteroids take out our orbiter. Audacity
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posted 03-29-2000 08:35 AM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar

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Audacity, you ask the right questions. I will dig into it and look up the statistics. Such an endevor should be well thought out indeed.
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posted 03-29-2000 10:18 AM PT (US) ip
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H Rocco
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I'm not sure if the Controller of Planet X will be too happy about this. The last communication I received -- oh never mind, you'd never believe it.NP: MECHAGODZILLA STRIKES AGAIN (Akira Ifukube) (the Controller often speaks to me through the high notes)
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posted 03-29-2000 11:23 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

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Nicolai, the problem is that small Asteroid pieces (or similar things) are floating around up there and regularly hit satellites and space crafts, so be sure to put the CDs in the safest place on the Ariane. But aside from that, it's a great idea. We could design a big HIFI satelitte (HIFISAT) that plays our collections loudly enough so we can hear it down here on Earth. If we spend enough money on a good hull for the sat, it should be quite safe, too.NP: The Lost World: "The Hunt" (Williams, great)
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posted 03-29-2000 04:24 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron

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Nicolai, Audacity - come on here. You aren't using your brains. If you make copies of the cds before you load them onto the Ariane, that means you'll have to break the plastic seal. I've found that the only way to ensure perfect equillibrium is to keep them in their plastic wrappers *and* store them in a vacuum. This way you are simulating a vacuum within a vacuum. Also, yes - you will need copies. But don't make cd-rs. Buy 2 extra copies, one to store at the bottom of the ocean, and the other to beam into subspace. This way, in the case of a global destruction or solar flare (resulting in the destruction of the Ariane), subspace will still remain intact for future retreival.This entire project would probably be expensive, but hey - I'm almost sure NASA would fund such a noteworthy and humane effort. If you have any questions, please post them. Jeron [This message has been edited by Jeron (edited 29 March 2000).]
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posted 03-29-2000 04:31 PM PT (US) ip
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Jennie

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Haha...geez...you guys are hilarious...Looking at how carefully some of you guys keep your CDs, if you saw how I took care of my CDs...Haha...you'd freak. Well, it's not like I just throw them around...I just don't have them in the nice vacuumless environments. Sowwy... =P
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posted 03-29-2000 07:59 PM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar

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Jeron and Marian, thanks for further and constructive input on this matter. It seems there is more to this than meets the eye. I have come up with the following so far but keep in mind that it's all preliminary:We should buy four copies of each score. Why four? One: backup copies kept at the bottom of the ocean (this project is still in Alpha stage). Two: a copy that gets actually (UARGH!) opened (CAREFULLY! VERY VERY CAREFULLY!) and played to make a few CD-R backups. Just in case. There will be problems with either the submarine or the spacecraft. Three and four: two copies of every score get blasted into space. Now why two? Well, here's why: several of you are understandably worried about micro meteorites, small paritcles, asteroids and what not. Heaven knows I am. Chances that any satellite vessels of ours will get hit by anything like that are small, BUT we can make 'em even smaller. I propose the developement and construction of a huge cocoon in which all of the CDs are stored and caried safely into orbit. NOW comes the clou: as soon as the cocoon has reached standard speed, a small and exactly calculated gas explosion will open it up and spread out all of the CDs for miles and miles, each and every one of them on a slightly different path around the sun. Similar to the asteroid belt in our solar system. There are enormous advantages to this. Just imagine, the chances of a single small CD getting hit by any kind of space debris are minute, but since we have two copies each floating around at different locations in our solar system, the chances that BOTH of them get hit are remote as can be (exact numbers are on their way). We should all be able to finally get a good night's sleep. NP: Vivaldi/Piazzolla: Eight Seasons Gidon Kremer/Kremerata Baltica (Nonesuch)
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posted 03-30-2000 05:02 AM PT (US) ip
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Jeron

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I can't believe you didn't mention my subspace theory.Jeron
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posted 03-30-2000 06:20 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

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May I point out some small problems, not to spoil your great ideas for saving the heritage of our beloved composers, but to help in solving them...I guess having the CDs flying around the sun vastly increases their safety, but if we really need to get one of them because all of our other backup copies get lost, we may have to wait several years for them to come near the Earth. Maybe every CD should be equipped with a little remote-controlled homing device, so they can return by themselves. Also, due to limited durability of CD-R's, we should make weekly backups of our CD-R backup collections. This will result in a fast growth of our CD piles, and may occasionally produce so much mass that the gravitational field created by the many CD-R's could affect the Earth's path around the sun, which in the end could result in a collaps of the Solar System. Thus, our "floating collections" would be lost, as well. So we'll have to destroy the old CD-R's once we've made backups of them. On the other hand, record companies surely would be willing to sponsor this project, as they'll get extra money when we all buy several copies of all those scores.
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posted 03-30-2000 03:34 PM PT (US) ip
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dantoris

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Geez. Has this become one of th emost off-topic (and unusal) threads or what?
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posted 03-30-2000 03:39 PM PT (US) ip
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Jennie

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Dantoris, As far as I can see....yup! hehe...suddenly we got from fingerprints on CD cases to homing devices in outer space. Ain't it fun? haha...
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posted 03-30-2000 08:31 PM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar

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Now, well, it's all to protect our CDs, from fingerprints, scratches, dust, floods, nuclear reactor explosions, looting, babies, angry spouses, Armaggeddon, food stains, and other such things, so it's not that far off topic.Now, Jeron, come on, I did not mention your subspace theory because I thought you weren't serious. The technology to successfully launch such a project would have to be developed and tested first, this could take years. This seems like an interesting idea, albeit one that's lightyears away from realization. I try to be realistic about the whole project.
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posted 03-30-2000 10:25 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron

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LOL! I admit it. You got me there, Nicolai. I wasn't being very realistic.[This message has been edited by Jeron (edited 30 March 2000).]
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posted 03-30-2000 11:03 PM PT (US) ip
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H Rocco
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"I try to be realistic about the whole project ... " I just roared at that one. I'm feeling jealous that I know so little about practical physics ... well, as mentioned above, NASA will undoubtedly fund something like this (I mean, look at all the bold and forward-looking stuff NASA has already done in the past couple years ... yes, I'm being sarcastic.)NP: PATTON (FSM version) (I will have to throw it out once it's over, as once I know something has been played in my own player then it has become "dirty" and must be replaced. My relationship to bying already used CDs is, as you can imagine, very conflicted.) (God, could that be even slightly more Freudian an image?)
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posted 03-30-2000 11:08 PM PT (US) ip
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Audacity

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In the future...Sorry to add a little seriousness to this topic, but I recently heard that in the next five years, the top hard drive manufacturers expect to have a hard drive with a one terrabyte capacity, that 1000 gigabytes. Initially this technology will be very expensive but maybe 5-10 years after its development it will become affordable. So eventually this may be the best way to back up all of our CDs. With that huge of a capacity we could record all our scores as .wav files and store them on the Hard drive, that will hold nearly 1500 cd length scores. Just something to think about, Audacity NP Nothing I am thinking about this topic too much and blood is gushing out of my ears.
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posted 03-31-2000 09:16 AM PT (US) ip
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