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Topic: Who are we really and what connects us?
Lou Goldberg
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There are other terms I could have used besides cultist, but I think that one gets it across.There is a recent book entitled Cult Fiction that offers short bios on a number of authors who are neither considered great literature (think Hemingway) or widely popular (think Stephen King). These are authors who attracted a small but loyal following of admirers (think David Goodis).
Borrowing the idea of cult authors, I see loving film composers in a similar light.
It's not that some aren't widely known (Star Wars sold 3 million+ copies), but the number of people who consistently listen to film music on its own apart from films is still a small percentage of the overall population. That suggests a cult following.
In any case, I'd rather be known as a cultist than a moron (though the distinction between the two is pretty thin).
posted 10-21-2001 08:38 PM PT (US) Lancelot
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so, you could say there's a cult of soundtrack fans, but a cult tends to suggest circulation around a single entity, but with soundtracks, there'd have to be some sub-cults, since you're dealing with an (albeit small) group of people that often refuse to be even closely associated with each other, since one group or the other believes that among film score composers, there are a world of difference....not all feel that way, though....
posted 10-21-2001 09:04 PM PT (US) Lou Goldberg
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Lance is right.Just as the left breaks into various sub-sects (liberals, socialists, greens, labor unionists, communists, Maoists, Marxists, Trotskyites, etc.) and as Christianity does the same (Anglicans, Methodists, Baptists, Catholics, Pentecosts, 7-Day Adventists, etc.), film music cultists/fans/aficiandos/morons/mavens/freaks rally around their own sub-sects (Golden age, MV, specific composers, etc.).
As they would call themselves leftists or Christians, both the pro-Hornerites and the anti-Hornerites would both still call themselves film music fans.
posted 10-22-2001 03:33 AM PT (US) Lou Goldberg
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I couldn't let this topic rest and decided to underline a previous posting by Ken S in my own way.I think whatever the interface between us and loving film music is, I think we should celebrate it.
Instead of taking the moron theory to heart, I think we should all be proud of ourselves for finding this orphan artform and setting aside time and money to collect, discuss, and listen to its works.
I'm usually the board's local sourpuss, but there are times when I think we need to pat ourselves on the back for responding to and getting the most out of what so many others simply ignore or discredit.
posted 10-25-2001 03:11 AM PT (US) Scott
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Hear, Hear!
Scottposted 10-25-2001 07:40 AM PT (US) Ken S
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Finally words of wisdom
Thanks, Lou - see me smiling:
KEN
posted 10-25-2001 08:21 AM PT (US) justin boggan
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I thought i would bring this back up.
In a time where argueing and fighting seem to rule, a post made Scott brought us together.
A planet so big and with so many squndart possibilites and chances for friendship.
A long strentch from end to end and yet we me 1,000 of miles apart through one commen denomiator. Truely love has brought people together than anything else. Wether it be by a score or by 9the falling of a wall... we can connect through it.
With sadness and happiness at the core, what expedition of hate could ever reach us?
Hand by hand a chain of score lovers could support a bridge to gap everything.
We have our passion and nothing by way of arguement or bickering will change that.
The note is more powerful than a gun.
posted 11-25-2002 04:41 PM PT (US) Howard L
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Indeed, really good film music is worth celebrating as are really good film music threads. Got a real kick reading this whole thing even a year later.
posted 11-25-2002 09:07 PM PT (US) Howard L
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see below[Message edited by Howard L on 04-01-2009]
posted 04-01-2009 12:13 PM PT (US) Howard L
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This belongs here (crap, this is a great thread). From today's NY Times editorial page:Maurice Jarre
By VERLYN KLINKENBORGWithout Maurice Jarre, who died last week at 84, who would David Lean’s Lawrence of Arabia be? Peter O’Toole’s deliquescent eyes, shimmering in the desert light, would have been little more than a silent mirage. Jarre’s 1962 film score, which won an Academy Award, is a reminder that in the movies there is no character and no landscape unless there is a musical soundscape too.
Maurice Jarre gave many of us a notion of the scale on which our personal life theme music might be written. People often notice the nostalgic quality of scent, the way a familiar smell can instantly carry you backward in time. The same is true of music.
A few bars of the theme from “The Longest Day” — astonishingly upright and Anglo-American for a French composer — and I am somewhere back in 1962, when I first saw the movie — and even further back in 1945. I understood, of course, that there was no harmony in the real sounds of D-Day. But Jarre’s score made the horrors and the heroism of that day palpably real for me.
To me, the indelible sign of Jarre’s power is the score for “Doctor Zhivago,” which was released in December 1965. Let me put my 1965 in perspective. The Beatles album “Help” came out in August, and “Rubber Soul” came out a couple of weeks before “Zhivago.” I was nearly deaf to anything that wasn’t composed by Lennon and McCartney, unless it was composed by Brian Wilson. And yet there was still room in my head for Jarre’s version of “Zhivago” — perhaps because it always carried with it an image of Julie Christie.
I cannot assess the professional significance of his movie music. But then, I don’t need to. All I have to do is listen to how one score of his after another opens a forgotten door in my life. We sit in the movies, and though we hear the music of the films we’re watching, we do not seem to be listening to it. Only later do we realize that it has saturated us.
posted 04-01-2009 12:13 PM PT (US) Scott
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Wow,
talk about ressurection...I am humbled by the thought that this thread has been brought back from the past on an occassion such as the passing of Maurice Jarre.
While I have not been a presence on this board any more, due to lack of time, my love for film music and the various communities it has ushered in, has not diminished.
Sure, these days, we may bicker, fight, disagree, but in the end, we stand on the shore of an artform so necessary and so profound, and yet often so overlooked. That is what makes this community so special, so unique. People who recognize the often unrecognizable, and fell in love doing it.
Yes, we may bicker, fight, disagree, but we do so out of a love that is hard to find these days, and that in itself, is worth fighting for.
Maurice Jarre, thank you for giving us something to treasure, through your art, you continue to live in the hearts of those who recognize you and those who don't.
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