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    Topic:   De Meji's LOTR Symphony - With Orchestra!

     Marian Schedenig
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    Just found this:

    In addition to the newly released soundtrack with Howard Shore's score, a classical disc on Suite 102/Madacy arrives Tuesday featuring Johan De Meij's composition inspired by the J.R.R. Tolkien trilogy. [...] De Meij's piece, composed between 1984 and 1987, originally was crafted for woodwinds and recently fleshed out for a full orchestra. The London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by David Warble, recorded the album on Sept. 22 at Golder's Green Hippodrome in London. The disc includes a bonus track of French composer Paul Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice.

    I still don't have the original version, but now I wonder if the orchestral recording should be the one to get.

    NP: Home Alone 2 (John Williams)

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    posted 12-07-2001 01:01 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    I saw this listed in upcoming releases at online stores. Was wondering why they wrote LSO instead of "The Wind section of the LSO" or something to that effect. Guess this explains it.

    But Madacy? Yikes!

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    posted 12-07-2001 01:40 PM PT (US)     

     Kris Koon
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    This is terrific news! I had read that de Meij's symphony had been transcribed for orchestra by Henk de Vlieger and also that de Meij had transcribed his second symphony, The Big Apple (originally also for band) for orchestra himself. I'll definitely be getting this. Also, the article mentions that the Rings symphony was originally for woodwinds, which is somewhat inaccurate. It was originally conceived for symphonic band/wind orchestra, which includes not only woodwinds but also brass and percussion. Here is an analysis of the symphony someone wrote for their master's thesis, which includes an instrumentation list.

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    posted 12-07-2001 06:32 PM PT (US)     

     El Cid
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    So has anyone heard this recording yet?

    I anxiously await your reviews...


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    posted 12-22-2001 05:03 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, I bought the Madacy recording. It comes in a fold-out booklet instead of jewel case (though fortunately, the liner notes are standard, so you can put them in a jewel case). A sticker on the cover announces that the package includes a Wizard Collectable Bookmark - just what you always wanted, right?

    Anyway, my first impression is that it's a good performance in good sound. No nasty surprises. (I was very worried they would do something stupid like include dialog).


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    posted 01-20-2002 03:59 AM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    Performance-wise, I was never worried. Sound-wise I was very afraid.

    But if it's good sound, then it becomes interesting.

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    posted 01-20-2002 08:40 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, I don't think the sound is very good. The mastering is too agressive. When it gets loud, it's shrill and overall there's not enough separation between the sections of the Orchestra. I'm rather disappointed... but the performence is excellent!

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    posted 01-30-2002 03:16 PM PT (US)     

     Kris Koon
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    I had this CD for a few weeks. I can say that brutus's comments about the sound being shrill are correct. I think ths may be due in part to the recording venue: Golder's Green Hippodrome in London. As for the actual orchestration of the symphony by Henk de Vlieger, it's decent althugh some changes leave me wondering why they where done. For instance, in the first movement, Gandalf, the origianl composition for wind band included an alto saxophone sole. In the orchestral version, this part is transcribed for high strings. This would seem fine, exept, for some reason, de Vlieger decided to use alto sax in the fifth movement, Hobbits. If he was going to use it in Hobbits (where there aren't any sax solost), why not keep the sax solo in Gandalf. Also, Gandalf seems to be missing the woodblock from the original, although woodblock is present in the second movement, Lothlórien. The third movement, Gollum retains the soprano saxophone solo from the original, nicely performed by Michiel van Dijk. In the origianl, Hobbits, the final movement, contained a slow section including a clarinet solo playing the "Hobbit hymn" that was taken over by a cornet that continued the theme. Here, that has been inexplicably replaced by strings playing those parts. As I mentioned, the alto sax has a part here where it plays with the strings during the slow section and doesn't really blend that well. Other than these issues, however, it is a nice well-performed version of the symphony, although the acoustics could be better.

    The CD also includes a good recording of Dukas's The Sorcerer's Apprentice. I suppose the whole idea of the album was to capitalize on the recent LotR and Harry Potter films.

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    posted 02-07-2002 09:28 PM PT (US)     

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    The recording sucks.The music is not very interesting,found the the whole thing rather boring. Well the day was not totally wasted got a great version of Bruckner 8th with Boulez/Vienna Philharmonic on DG.

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    posted 02-10-2002 10:21 PM PT (US)     

     Kris Koon
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    http://www.useit.com/jakob/photos/jakob_doesnt_like_it.jpg

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    posted 02-21-2002 07:07 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    Me buy. Me like.

    The sound is decent, although the trumpets sound too shrill and squeeky. And it's true that there is little transparancy between the various orchestral parts.

    Digipak crap should be banned by law. But this one isn't as bad as others. And the look is classy: gold writing on black background with a dark purple insert containing most of the credits and liner notes.
    Some things could be questioned though: Greek letters in the ring instead of old Elventongues. The LSO is said to have performed the Star Wars, Braveheart and Notting Hill scores. All accurate, but you have to wonder who remembers any of Trevor Jones boring Notting Hill score. Most people probably don't even remember the crappy songs.

    As for the music: it sounds much better in full orchestral sound that in the wind band version. The original orchestrations were pretty good, but with a full symphony orchestra the music takes on a whole new meaning. It's much richer, more epic and much more interesting, I find.

    LSO is great. But Warble takes some passages too fast.

    Interestingly, The Sorcerer's Apprentice did not sound as shrill as The Lord of the Rings part.


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