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Topic: What Have You Seen In JUNE 2004?

Graham Watt

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I think it's absolutely disgusting the way you all let this series go to pot. Here I am working down the pit 23 hours a day, and only half an hour for lunch, and there's you lot sitting back on state benefits, and probably complaining, and expecting your mother to make the bed for you. Now, whilst it be true that one should not be hookied on this nasty Internet habit, I'll bet the dollar I've got up my bottom that you're all watching films but can't be bothered to post about them. That's sheer laziness. I have no time to see films, and when I do, I don't necessarily feel the need to wax lyrical, but YOU should, especially if you're loafing around anyway on taxpayers' money. Which is, of course, one of the great problems of youth culture today. That, and graffiti. And to think that some people call it art. Why don't you paint your own walls?Although I have no time, I did waste 204 minutes of my life today watching Michael Jackson's THE RETURN OF THE KING, and I'm sorry, I really seriously didn't think it was very good. It didn't involve me at all (I kept thinking "Who are these people, why are they doing what they're doing, why are they saying what they're saying?" I obviously missed the point. Not bad Howie Shore score, but still absurdly over-rated. Most of it struck me as being somewhat unimaginative, but I did like that solo cello bit, and the bits that were like John Barry.
posted 06-06-2004 01:24 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Hahaha...I applaud you voicing your opinion on the boards Graham. I enjoyed the film, but not nearly as much as a lot of people out there. I will warn you though, prepare to be flamed
posted 06-06-2004 02:05 PM PT (US) 
scoreguy16

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quote:
Originally posted by Graham Watt:
Although I have no time, I did waste 204 minutes of my life today watching Michael Jackson's THE RETURN OF THE KING, and I'm sorry, I really seriously didn't think it was very good. It didn't involve me at all (I kept thinking "Who are these people, why are they doing what they're doing, why are they saying what they're saying?" I obviously missed the point. Not bad Howie Shore score, but still absurdly over-rated. Most of it struck me as being somewhat unimaginative, but I did like that solo cello bit, and the bits that were like John Barry.I agree... kind of. I mean I understood it and everything, and it's an amazing cinematic achievement, but the series isn't that good and is, like you said, absurdly over-rated. Most of the music I liked was the themes from the first 2 films and then the theme from Into The West. BUT I HATE THAT SONG!!! Well I don't hate it, it's just not very good.
Clayton
posted 06-06-2004 02:08 PM PT (US) 
James

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I have been remiss, Graham. I adore these threads, and I feel genuinely sad that I've been neglecting them so. As such, I offer up the following three posts...Last week I caught up with Jim Jarmsuch's compilation film Coffee & Cigarettes, a collection of 11 shorts that all have coffee and cigarettes in common (except for the one with Alfred Molina and Steve Coogan - they're English, so they drink tea). A few of the shorts are pointless and do nothing but waste time, and most of them are just okay, but I think the whole experience is worth the price of admission just for the few that are outstanding.
The best one is definitely the meeting between Alfred Molina and Steve Coogan, in which Molina has called Coogan up to tell him he's discovered they're distant relatives. Molina is a sincere, eager teddy-bear type of character while Coogan is cool, more stuck-up and visibly uninterested in the whole scenario (as in most of these shorts, the actors are playing fictionalized versions of themselves). This short is both the funniest and most honest of the bunch, and the actors are both outstanding in it.
Also great is the segment in which Cate Blanchett plays dual roles, herself and a fictional cousin, and there's a fantastic short that documents a meeting in a bar between Iggy Pop and Tom Waits (this one was filmed in 1993 and won the Palme d'Or for best short that year at Cannes). The closing piece with Bill Race and Taylor Mead is also wonderful. The rest are mostly mediocre, though a short that puts GZA and RZA of the Wu Tang Clan in the same coffee shop as Bill Murray succeeds almost solely for the reason that Bill Murray couldn't avoid being entertaining even if he tried.
The black-and-white cinematography, shot at various times by Tom DiCillo, Frederick Elmes, Ellen Kuras and Robby Muller, is good throughout, the Tom Waits/Iggy Pop and Bill Rice/Taylor Mead segments being the most impressive.
COFFEE AND CIGARETTES (2003)
Written and Directed by Jim Jarmusch
Starring a boatload of peopleKirk
NP - Return of the King (*****)[Message edited by James on 06-09-2004]
posted 06-09-2004 09:25 PM PT (US) 
James

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Saw the much-talked-about documentary Super Size Me and really enjoyed it. While I must admit that this work, like Michael Moore's, is more a propaganda film than a documentary, I think it's good that the film's success is making people aware of issues that they don't seem to be too concerned about.Every person I've told about this film has asked me the same question: "How interesting can a movie about a guy eating McDonald's for a month be?" Actually, the film is about more than one guy eating McDonald's. Intercut with that quest is information about the McDonald's company, examinations of things like the healthiness of school lunch programs and the advertisement and lobbying practices of the major food companies, and a whole bunch of other stuff that's just plain funny. Morgan Spurlock has a really subversive sense of humor which comes to fruition in a scene where he shows you graphic (very graphic) footage of a stomach-stapling operation edited to Strauss's Blue Danube waltz.
That's the kind of mentality this film has. It's a funny, inspirational and very important film that deserves to be seen by as many people as possible.
SUPER SIZE ME (2003)
Written & Directed by and Starring Morgan SpurlockKirk
NP - Return of the King (********)[Message edited by James on 06-09-2004]
posted 06-09-2004 09:26 PM PT (US) 
James

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Didn't care much for SAVED!. It's a pretty mediocre teen comedy purported to be a brave, biting satire of Christianity, but I didn't see much of that. Satire is when you target human folly and ridicule it so that others may see it as such, but due to poor structure and a writer who clearly had no idea what his theme was, this film ends up feeling more like 75 minutes of ridicule for the sake of ridicule followed by 15 minutes of apology.It's not that there's something wrong with the message this film tries to send at its climax - in fact I totally agree with it - but the problem is that the film doesn't deal with this message until the climax. Like Kevin Smith's Dogma (a much better film: watch that instead of this one), the idea here is that there are some Christians who focus so much on certain aspects of their faith that they lose site of the real messages that Jesus was trying to send. That's great, but pulling it out of your ass at the last minute makes it seem more like an apology. If that's the theme of the film, it should be developed throughout the entire film. As it stands, it's a very Hollywood ending (and this was an independent film).
To make matters worse, the "satire" that dominates the first half of the film is actually little more than a procession of obvious, stereotypical jokes that are quickly becoming cliches. All of the Christians in this film are ultra-conservative cheerleaders totally blind to reality. Three girls who form a music group calling themselves the "Christian Jewels" hang out after school one day doing target practice at "Emmanuel Firing Range." These are the types of jokes you'd expect to find in any Hollywood teen comedy, not in a film that thinks it's examining some real issues.
That's not to say there aren't bright spots. Jena Malone is charming and easily likeable as ever. Eva Amurri (who I hadn't seen or heard of before this film) is fantastic and has a great future. Mandy Moore does a great job, and (surprise) Macaulay Culkin is pretty good - not spectacular, but good enough that you quickly forget about him putting aftershave on his face and screaming.
Christophe Beck's score is rather nice as well. How he ended up getting typecast after Buffy as THE composer for slight teen comedies is beyond me, but at least here he got to write something that didn't automatically disappear into the ocean of forgettable scores in this genre.
SAVED! (2004)
Directed by Brian Dannelly
Written by Brian Dannelly and Michael Urban
Cinematography by Bobby Bukowski
Edited by Pamela Martin
Music by Christophe Beck
Starring Jena Malone, Mandy Moore, Macaulay Culkin, Patrick Fugit, Heather Matarazzo, Eva Amurri, Martin Donovan and Mary-Louise ParkerKirk
NP - Return of the King (the best music ever in the entire history of the known universe)[Message edited by James on 06-09-2004]
posted 06-09-2004 09:26 PM PT (US) 
scoreguy16

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I guess some people are still stuck on Return of the King being a "great" score. Anyway, I am sad to hear that Saved wasn't so good. I was kind of looking forward to this. I still need to see Super Size Me. James, how long is Super Size Me? Does it seem kind of boring in parts or does it stay interesting through the entire film?Clayton
NP> Ali
posted 06-09-2004 10:38 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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Saw Tim Burton's BIG FISH.Lots of Burton'esque stuff, the quirky americana of Sissorhands, circus freaks and the usual gothic stuff.
This film is what I would term S - T - R - E - T - C - H - E - D - !
It could have done with 30 minutes lopped off, I was entertained but I found it oddly unmoving and ultimately forgettable.
Danny Elfman's score was quite good, it didn't irritate me like so many of his efforts do!
posted 06-10-2004 06:13 AM PT (US) 
James

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Clayton,Super Size Me is about 90 minutes. I suppose not everything is edge-of-your-seat enthralling, but I was always interested in what was happening or what was being talked about. The pacing is pretty swift, I think.
Kirk
posted 06-10-2004 08:39 AM PT (US) 
valencia
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The only movie I have seen so far this month is Harry Potter 3, which I thought was enjoyable but not as good as I expected. Not to say that I probably won't see it again, because chances are that I will. Other than that, I am waiting for Spiderman 2 to come out (and hoping for a better soundtrack in this one) and waiting for Shaolin Soccer to be released on DVD.
posted 06-10-2004 11:00 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Good to see this thread lively again.
James/Kirk, that story about Tom Waits and Iggy Pop in a bar reminded me of a true story that my friend Shuggy told me - Apparently there's a bar in some backwater Irish village which Tom Waits frequents (when he's there, of course). It has a piano in the corner, and Waits regularly tinkles the ivories after having a few. Anyway, the Friday night pianist is a guy called Paddy, and, because Waits' visits are so few and far between (plus the fact it's an Irish backwater place), few people know the magnitude of his fame. So, one night, Tom Waits walks into the bar and sits down at the piano, and the new barman gets up and says, "Hey you, nobody touches that piano, that's PADDY's piano!"True story.
posted 06-12-2004 03:04 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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I saw a film where a crazed LOTR fan killed people who said ROTK was lame...It was REALLY scary.
--Brian
NP: Final Fantasy VI - BEST GAME SOUNDTRACK EVER!
posted 06-12-2004 06:06 PM PT (US) 
valencia
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Is the LOTR thing true? If so, where might one find this movie? wow
posted 06-12-2004 06:47 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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quote:
Originally posted by valencia:
Is the LOTR thing true? If so, where might one find this movie? wow
Notice he's put the
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posted 06-13-2004 05:30 AM PT (US) 
scoreguy16

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quote:
Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
I saw a film where a crazed LOTR fan killed people who said ROTK was lame...You sure that was a film? Because it actually sounds like something that would happen...
Which is scary (and sad at the same time)...
Clayton
posted 06-13-2004 09:43 AM PT (US) 
valencia
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Ya I noticed but it didn't sound too far fetched. Haha
posted 06-14-2004 12:59 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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I wish I hadn't watched THE PUNISHER (not the new one which I haven't seen....and quite likely won't!) with Dolph Lundgrin.CRAP!
posted 06-19-2004 06:10 PM PT (US) 
James

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I finally caught up with WINTER LIGHT and THE SILENCE, the other two films in the trilogy Ingmar Bergman began with THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY.WINTER LIGHT really blew me away. I love that Bergman can make such small-scale, practically motionless films so weighty and so dramatic and haunting. Gunnar Bjornstrand's performance as Tomas is subtle yet totally staggering, and the quiet conflicts that slowly unfold throughout the film are deeply, deeply gut-wrenching. This is a great example of what Robert Wise meant when I once heard him say, "Pace doesn't necessarily mean just spped. Pace is interest." Most snails could outrun WINTER LIGHT, but I was on the edge of my proverbial seat the entire time. This is now my second-favorite Bergman film (of the ones I know) behind THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY.
I wasn't quite as dumbstruck by THE SILENCE, but in no way do I intend to belittle it because of that. Only directly after watching WINTER LIGHT could THE SILENCE be considered a step down. And in any case, it's a very small step, because this is still a fantastic film. The feelings of isolation, desolation, and longing are teeming in this film, and they're all dealt with in challenging ways. The frankness of the sexuality is quite striking, and the climactic moments of Gunnel Lindblom's performance as Anna ranks with Harriet Andersson's frightening outburst in THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY. Quite, quite good.
In both films Sven Nykvist achieves images that look too good to be anything but the direct, unfiltered handiwork of a god. He paradoxically seems to create black-and-white images that have high, dramatic contrast but at the same time seem to have a dynamic range of grays. I don't know how he does it; I practically started drooling, they looked so gorgeous.
WINTER LIGHT (1963)
Written & Directed by Ingmar Bergman
Cinematography by Sven Nykvist
Starring Gunner Bjornstrand, Max Von Sydow, Ingrid Tullin and Gunnel LindblomTHE SILENCE (1963)
Written & Directed by Ingmar Bergman
Cinematography by Sven Nykvist
Starring Gunnel Lindblom, Ingrid Thulin and Jorgen LindstromKirk
NP - To Kill a Mockingbirdposted 06-24-2004 05:24 AM PT (US) 
James

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Saw a really interesting short film called LIGHT IS CALLING by Bill Morrison. It's actually a scene from a 1926 silent horror film called THE BELLS, but Morrison found a print that was in phenomenally bad shape and presents it here slowed down so that we can appreciate the degradation it's gone through. He hasn't done any color treatments on the film at all, and the only way he's altered it is by changing the speed and adding music by Michael Gordon.The result is exquisitely beautiful. We're not just dealing with splices and scratches here - this film has gone through some serious chemical degradation and as a result is vibrant, beautiful yellow light that seems to be swimming across the frame. I haven't seen THE BELLS (you can get it on video and DVD, since there are good prints around) so I'm not sure exactly what was originally going on in this scene, but it appears to just be a man pulling a woman out of a ditch or a stream. But with the speed manipulation, the gorgeous yellow light and the strangely touching music by Gordon, you get the impression (or at least I got the impression) that for a moment these two people have suddenly fallen in love and suddenly begin dancing amidst these swirling color formations. Then, just as suddenly, they break apart and go their seperate ways. It's as if Morrison is saying love decays, and the good times are fleeting.
Morrison put together a 70-minute film called DECASIA which is apparently made up of lots more fottage like this (again with music by Michael Gordon). I'm really interested in seeing it now.
LIGHT IS CALLING (2004)
Directed and Edited by Bill Morrison
Music by Michael Gordon
Edited from THE BELLS (1926)
Directed by James Young
Starring Eddie Philips and Lola Todd (this scene)Kirk
NP - To Kill a Mockingbird[Message edited by James on 06-24-2004]
posted 06-24-2004 05:25 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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I enjoyed the Coens' LADYKILLERS very much, although I feel it lacks the bite of some of their other films. There's little real sense of the macabre, or even danger, and the escalating death scenes towards the end are surprisingly unsatisfactory, becoming mechanical and rather hurried.But I'm not really complaining. There's a lot to like in this LADYKILLERS, not least the excellent performances from the entire supporting cast. And Tom Hanks is splendid in the lead. His Poe-quoting Goldthwait Higginson Dorr is closer to the velvety Vincent Price than Alec Guinness, an impression reinforced by the Price-like hair and wardrobe. Great fun to watch and listen to.
I have the feeling that LADYKILLERS will be considered a minor entry in the Coens' filmography just because it's so lightweight, but despite its flaws I was hugely entertained.
In amongst all the Gospel music you will notice Carter Burwell being very Burwellesque. As always, his cock-eyed approach to the material is exactly right.
LADYKILLERS (USA 2004)
Directed by Joel and Ethan Coen
Screenplay by Joel and Ethan Coen, from the original screenplay by William Rose
Photography by Roger Deakins
Music by Carter BurwellMain Cast: Tom Hanks, Irma P Hall, Marlon Wayans, JK Simmons, Tzi Ma, Ryan Hurst
posted 06-27-2004 09:26 AM PT (US) 
Gulchina

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Hi folks, I've just joined you all. And I'm from Turkey. I watched Dangeours Beauty for many times and I really like it especially its language
the way they talk and the way they express their feelings. This movie is so important for my life, since I have also experienced a story like it(not exactly of course)
HOwever; I cant find the words of the movie. Is there anyone who can help me? or share anything about that movie?
posted 07-06-2004 08:53 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
