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posted 07-01-2003 05:08 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Following up on Sir T and Gae's info on WITCHFINDER GENERAL, the Movie Database implies that the difficult working relationship between Vincent Price and Michael Reeves sprung from the fact the director wanted Donald Pleasence in the lead role, but Price was forced on him by the American distributors, AIP.It also mentions that the British (only?) release was cut for violence until quite recently, when it was released by Redemption video "restored from the European laserdisc." Apparently this version also has more tavern scenes and tits.
Certainly, the version I saw had neither violence NOR tits. I assume this was a special version heavily censored for a TV showing. British TV used to do that a lot, and perhaps still does.
posted 07-01-2003 11:17 AM PT (US) 
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Watched The Rhythmatist, an odd blend of fiction, music video, and documentary starring Stewart Copeland as a guy visiting Kenya to record native rhythms. Some neat images and staged sequences and that great great score. I'm not sure it adds up to anything but fluff but the blonde girl in it is a babe and watching Copeland ride a horse beside a giraffe is alone worth the watch. The real surprise was a brief appearance by Lorne Blair playing a fictitious doctor/explorer. Blair was also the film's 2nd unit director. Blair and his brother were behind the wonderful Ring of Fire documentary about Indonesia. Blair's brother Lawrence has taken both Mick Jagger and David Bowie on tours of Indonesia. Lorne Blair was in Africa helping Stewart Copeland. Odd that rock stars feel the need to travel to exotic locales and hang with the Blairs. I wonder what that's all about.
posted 07-01-2003 09:41 PM PT (US) 
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28 Days Later This movie held my interest. It is a braiding of Omega Man and
Alas Babylon hyped up in places with a MTV look. Interesting music. Twangy guitars at
times and a lone female voice singing prayers and Avie Marie (sp?). The first three
fourths of the movie glued me to the screen. I wanted that format to continue. For me
the last fourth suffered from clichés, a little absurdity, and pandering to audience
expectations.
posted 07-01-2003 10:51 PM PT (US) 
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Watched 2 episodes of The Twilight Zone, Walking Distance and The Midnight Sun, both with good original scores, one by Herrmann, the other by Van Cleave. Lois Nettleton is fine in TMS, but the other actors are weak. Gig Young is great in WD, although the story is a bit preachy.I also watched Man Beast. Someone had posted on the board some time ago about knowing the composer who had scored this film. The score had that generic B-movie score sound though. The best aspects of the film were documentary shots of the mountain climbing. The acting was poor and the creatures far from horrific. Someone at Amazon.com once wrote that they thought this was better than the Hammer film on the same subject, The Abominable Snowman. He was wrong. Interestingly, the two films do share some ideas. In both, the Yeti have been hidden by local people from the outside world, but in MB, the Yeti are backward, while in TAS, they are highly-evolved and telepathic.
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posted 07-02-2003 09:53 PM PT (US) 
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I watched The Day the Earth Stood Still tonight. Fantastic film. Fantastic score... What more can I say? I put my political views aside and just enjoyed the thing.The DVD looks and sounds quite good (mono track.) Unfortunately, the "stereo" track is actually just that "out of phase" crap, like was used on The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. I also thought that the loud 5.1 THX intro and Panasonic logo at the end were not appropriate for this title. If the feature is in mono, please do not blast me back in my seat with 5.1 ping-pong crap on both ends of the film. Yes, my sound system has 6 speakers, I know that. Thanks for verifying that they all work correctly, but I'll only be needing the center speaker for this film.
On the flip side of the disc is what appears to be a fairly old documentary (IMDB says it's from 1995) that looks pretty cheap, could have used a narrator, and could have also used a little bit more cutting in the editing room. Even though the presentation isn't real slick, there's still a lot of decent information here from Robert Wise and Julian Blaustein. Herrmann biographer, Steven C. Smith, also makes an appearance with his book not-so-subtly placed behind him-- I should buy that book sometime-- uhh, anyway, he obviously chats about the score. Wise also provides a commentary on the movie side of the disc, which I have not listened to yet.
So anyway, this disc is a great presentation of the movie and for about $15 it's a great price as well... Once again, I paid less for this antique film than I did for the antique soundtrack album. I'll probably end up paying another $17 to buy the re-recording now.
NP: The Day the Earth Stood Still (OST album)
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posted 07-02-2003 10:35 PM PT (US) 
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Being completely out of touch and living in a foreign land, the Ali G fervour (was there any?) completely bypassed me. But a Brit colleague lent me a video of ALI G - INNIT, and I laughed quite a lot. I imagine he's already fading out, because the shock reaction only works if the interviewees don't know who he is and think he's being serious, but I could be (and probably am) wrong. Anyway, much of this video is hilarious, though undoubtedly cruel (when, for example, making sly comments surrounded by genuine old folk in a home). Ignoring the cruelty of the endeavour, I did lift my knees with mirth when he asked a serious Royal Family insider why, if Lady Di was so smart, she was "knobbing a Pakki." Very politically incorrect, but the whole video is based around priceless moments like that. My head tells me I can't like Ali G, but I had a ball watching this.Will get back to being stuffy tomorrow when I watch Hitchcock's THE BIRDS and can't enjoy it because I'm analysing it.
posted 07-03-2003 02:38 PM PT (US) 
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Jonathan, I'm intrigued by your comment on THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL - "I put my political views aside and just enjoyed the thing." Why did you have to park your political views?I ask this because I think (though I could be wrong) that this great movie has one fatal flaw. I haven't seen it for a while, but although it seems to be ostensibly a "pacifist" film, I was never comfortable with the ultimatum "Live in peace or we'll blow you up", nor the idea of Michael Rennie's planet achieving peace through the presence of humungous great robot policemen. Isn't that just a totalitarian state?
As I say, I don't remember the details of the storyline very well, but I still have those nagging doubts about it. Am I way off mark?
posted 07-04-2003 03:05 PM PT (US) 
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So, after ALI G, down to some serious filmwatching - Alfred Hitchcock's brilliant THE BIRDS. I love this movie so much. Third or fourth time round I did feel it was occasionally in danger of bogging down under the weight of its dense character conflicts, but that all makes for rich Hitchcockian fodder. And the set-pieces are absolutely amazing. Nevertheless, my two favourite sequences kick in just before some of the great action set-pieces - the justly famous bit with Tippi Hedren waiting outside the school as the birds amass on the monkey puzzle with the sound of the kids' nursery rhyme in the background; and the moment, not a sequence at all, just a subliminal moment almost too quick to register, where the main cast are all sitting around the house and Hedren spots a sparrow there in the fireplace, immediately prior to when the bloody buggers all come pouring down the chimney. Great great great.I can't say anything about this film which hasn't been said before, so I'll just conclude by saying that this may very well be my favourite Hitchcock film, and that's saying a lot.
Oh, no score, as you all know. The brilliant sound design obviously loses a lot on the small screen, though it's still nerve-racking. Must have been really hellishly nerve-racking in the cinema.
THE BIRDS (USA 1963)
Directed by Alfred Hitchcock
Screenplay by Evan Hunter, from a story by Daphne du Maurier
Photography by Robert Burks
Electronic sound production and composition by Remi Gassmann and Oskar Sala
Sound consultant: Bernard HerrmannMain Cast: Tippi Hedren, Rod Taylor, Jessica Tandy, Suzanne Pleshette, Veronica Cartwright
posted 07-04-2003 03:39 PM PT (US) 
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham Watt:
Jonathan, I'm intrigued by your comment on THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL - "I put my political views aside and just enjoyed the thing." Why did you have to park your political views?I ask this because I think (though I could be wrong) that this great movie has one fatal flaw. I haven't seen it for a while, but although it seems to be ostensibly a "pacifist" film, I was never comfortable with the ultimatum "Live in peace or we'll blow you up", nor the idea of Michael Rennie's planet achieving peace through the presence of humungous great robot policemen. Isn't that just a totalitarian state?
Graham, you hit the problem right on the head. Robert Wise is anti-war, and I can understand that, but I share your feeling that the "peace by giant robots" idea is just a totalitarian state. Perhaps 'political' wasn't the best word to describe it.
Even with this issue, I still thought this was a great film, but it could have been even better if the ending speech was toned down a bit.
[Message edited by jonathan_little on 07-04-2003]
posted 07-04-2003 06:44 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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Gort. I was just jaywalking. Gort. Gort! No! Ahhhhh![Sounds of sizzlin' Lou]
posted 07-05-2003 07:45 PM PT (US) 
Gae

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Yeh, and where's Michael Rennie gonna be when you need him to say "Klattu barada niktu" (or words to that affect)
I mean come on, the guys just gonna be too busy for words. He'll have to have a load of reps all over the world who have been authorized to use the command which you can guarantee he'll have copyrighted!! "Now let me see, the prevention of liquidation by Gort using a 15 second quote of the command, "Klattu barada niktu", including student discount of course...umm, that will be $1500 please sir!!"
Gae
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posted 07-06-2003 07:09 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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HOT SHOTS! PART DEUX (USA 1993)Directed by Jim Abrahams
Screenplay by Jim Abrahams and Pat Proft
Photography by John R Leonetti
Music by Basil PoledourisMain Cast: Charlie Sheen, Lloyd Bridges, Richard Crenna, Valeria Golino, Brenda Bakke, Rowan Atkinson
A Rambo-type must defeat Saddam Hussein in order to rescue an elite squad taken hostage during a rescue mission of its own.
Wow! Why did I watch this? Well, it was Friday night and I'd had a few beers, and this promised to demand zero on both the intellect and the attention span. I was right. HOT SHOTS! PART DEUX is very silly indeed, but the trouble is it's just not funny, nowhere near as good as the NAKED GUN movies for example. I laughed about twice, which left about 99% of the film embarrassingly feeble. It really is pretty pathetic, and I'd never recommend getting the video out, but if it comes on TV and you've had a few beers, there are worse ways to pass the time.
Basil Poledouris' straight action scoring goes the appropriately Goldsmithian RAMBO route (with a brief nod to BASIC INSTINCT for one of the jokes). It's actually a pretty good score in its own right, which probably gets overlooked due to the film it accompanies.
posted 07-06-2003 01:32 PM PT (US) 
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ONE DESIRE (USA 1955)Directed by Jerry Hopper
Screenplay by Lawrence Roman and Robert Blees, from the novel by Conrad Richter
Photography by Maury Gertsman
Music by Frank SkinnerMain Cast: Anne Baxter, Rock Hudson, Julia Adams, Natalie Wood, Barry Curtis, William Hopper
Towards the end of the 19th century, a former "casino hostess" attempts to find true love and respectability.
Very typical of Universal's pink-tinted, frilly-clothed romantic melodramas of the 50s, I quite enjoyed ONE DESIRE. The hard centre is blandified (new word?) by all the pretty colours, but it's still eminently watchable, and it all ends in a final conflagration worthy of a Roger Corman/Vincent Price film. However, this kind of "woman's picture" probably needed the hand of Douglas Sirk to bring the tortured ingredients to the boil.
Again very typical of the studio and genre, Frank Skinner's lush, gushy scoring also avoids confronting the situation in a hard-nosed way, and I can't help imagining how I'd like this movie more if someone like Leonard Rosenman had scored it. Come to think of it, I can't help imagining how the real classic Sirk movies would change entirely if Rosenman had scored them.
posted 07-06-2003 01:54 PM PT (US) 
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Gangs of New York--As I've said before, I think Scorsese is a better critic and teacher of film than a director. He put the camera on a crane for those shots that shout "Epic!" During an early gang fight, the cinematic language is that of a music video. In fact when the two gangs meet facing each other on the snow I was expecting to hear West Side Story.The film itself was pretty predictable. It's Hamlet, a character even talks about a Shakespearean moment. But I didn't like any of the characters so I didn't care who they were modeled after. Actually, given that DiCaprio was in reform school for 16 years, comes out, gets taken in by Bill who lets him sleep with his best girl, treats him like a son, and lets him live after DiCaprio bungles an attempt to kill him, I thought DC was pretty ungrateful. Sure Bill killed his dad, but Bill also explains the respect he had for the man.
In the one quiet, personal moment in the film, where DD Lewis monologues about his age and need for a son, etc., he's wrapped up in an American flag. Earlier he had said that his family had fought in the Revolutionary War, so that when DDL explains that he's ruled by fear, it's really the USA that's speaking there.
One neat touch that you've got to be quick to catch. DDL is playing poker and the guy next to him is cheating. DDL puts a knife through his hand and calls him Harvey and I'm sure that's meant to be a reference to Harvey Weinstein from Miramax who later did such damage to the film.
I don't see why Elmer's score had to be junked. It's not like the music in there was anything special and I can't imagine that EB's music would have been worse than what was in there.
One element I did like was all the slang and discussion of the different gangs. DDL was fine, if a bit mannered and over the top. A shame the film around him wasn't as good as he was.
I also showed To The Ends of The Earth to the Sunday crowd. A Dick Powell detective thing, very B-Movie, but it comes up with a lot of neat ideas for how the opium is grown, hidden, moved, and smuggled in and out of ports and borders.
posted 07-06-2003 09:15 PM PT (US) 
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Jezebel(1938)
Bette Davis is radiant and runs away with the movie playing an impudent and childish southern belle whose provocative and selfish attitude causes drama for others as well as herself, before she finds redemption in self-sacrifice.William Wyler keeps things (very) tightly under control. His direction breathes intelligence and good taste, frame composition is always meaningful, and he was justly celebrated as a master of deep-focus shots.
All these qualities made up for a lack of passion, one could have asked for less « perfection » and more inspiration, visual flair.
All this may sound as nitpicking, since as such it is a beautiful film. Max Steiner’s score is never intrusive and carfully spotted, soaring up with a choir for the emotional finale.
And I definitively can’t get used to George Brent.
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posted 07-07-2003 01:13 PM PT (US) 
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Spent a few days vegetating and watching films on TV. It was great. I hadn't done that since I was a student!First up was ANALYZE THIS (not THAT). Well, I thought it was okay, but there's not really an awful lot of mileage to be got out the situation, and the film relies a bit too heavily on De Niro's mugging and face-pulling, which is funny up to a point. On the whole, not many great ideas on display I'm afraid.
Howard Shore's score has some good dramatic moments of big band swing, but it's mostly discreet. Shows the composer's versatility though.
ANALYZE THIS (USA 1999)
Directed by Harold Ramis
Screenplay by Peter Tolan, Harold Ramis and Kenneth Lonergan
Photography by Stuart Dryburgh
Music by Howard ShoreMain Cast: Robert De Niro, Billy Crystal, Lisa Kudrow, Joe Viterelli, Chazz Palminteri
posted 07-10-2003 02:24 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Mel Gibson gets frozen in 1939 and wakes up in 1992 in FOREVER YOUNG. It's a love story more than an SF film, and, like SOMEWHERE IN TIME, it's a sincere, old fashioned effort. In fact, although it's not really any great shakes (it's way to bland for my liking), I really appreciate the lack of smart-assedness in this movie.As sincere and bland as the film itself is Jerry Goldsmith's music. This is my wife's favourite Goldsmith score, which proves it's a bit girly.
FOREVER YOUNG ((USA 1992)
Directed by Steve Miner
Screenplay by Jeffrey Abrams
Photography by Russell Boyd
Music by Jerry GoldsmithMain Cast: Mel Gibson, Jamie Lee Curtis, Elijah Wood
posted 07-10-2003 02:31 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Next up was Polanski's first full-length feature - KNIFE IN THE WATER. It's an interesting film to say the least. A couple on their way to spend a weekend on their yacht pick up a hitch-hiker, and before you can say DEAD CALM, a complex power-play ensues on board. It's a curiously static affair, though tense, and I liked the subtlety of it all. Each character is manipulative in their own way, but they never bend in quite the direction you expect them to, nor is there any great melodramatic catharsis at the end. It's quite a memorable, unique movie, helped enormously by the evocative b/w photography, which goes from bleached with sun to grey with cloud.Christopher Komeda's score sounds as if it was recorded live at a jazz club and then tracked in. It's sometimes distracting, but its very "wrongness" is perhaps just "right" for the overall ambiguities.
KNIFE IN THE WATER (Poland 1962)
Directed by Roman Polanski
Screenplay by Jerzy Skolimowski, Roman Polanski and Jakub Goldberg
Photography by Jerzy Lipman
Music by Krzystof KomedaMain Cast: Leon Niemczyk, Jolanta Umecka, Zygmunt Malanowicz (and no supporting actors at all!)
posted 07-10-2003 02:45 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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The success or otherwise of a biopic often rests squarely on how insightful it is regarding the "true" story, so in many ways I was at an advantage watching LENNY. I went in blind to the facts and could judge the film on a purely cinematic level, and as a piece of cinema it impressed me quite a lot.I liked the structure ("documentary" testimonies recall Lenny Bruce's life, interspersed with later stage show recreations of how the artist exploited those earlier personal events for his material, all the while becoming more and more self obsessed with his busts with the law and the the supposed hypocrisy of society).
Hoffman is excellent. Valerie Perrine is good too, even if her mock-documentary footage is dangerously close to spoof-documentary footage of the Spinal Tap variety.
I did feel that the finale was a bit hurried (he dies - The End), but on the whole it's a strong movie, in my humble opinion.
Ralph Burns' scoring is more in a supervisory capacity than anything else - lots of good Miles Davis jazz etc on the soundtrack.
LENNY (USA 1974)
Directed by Bob Fosse
Screenplay by Julian Barry, from his play
Photography by Bruce Surtees
Music by Ralph BurnsMain Cast: Dustin Hoffman, Valerie Perrine
posted 07-10-2003 02:59 PM PT (US) 
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You may mock, but I say that for a good solid two hours of entertainment, you can't do much better than the Stallone mountaineering action film CLIFFHANGER. The pacing is beautiful - this is the kind of movie which is continually exciting even when you're hardly watching it - and with those spectacular snowy vistas, it's just great.The Trevor Jones score is very direct - major key for the majestic scenery, minor key when things go wrong. His action scoring is exciting, though disconcertingly similar to Alan Silvestri's stuff, particularly PREDATOR.
CLIFFHANGER (USA 1993)
Directed by Renny Harlin
Screenplay by Michael France and Sylvester Stallone, based on a premise by John Long
Photography by Alex Thomson
Music by Trevor JonesMain Cast: Sylvester Stallone, John Lithgow, Michael Rooker, Janine Turner
posted 07-10-2003 03:20 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Tomorrow I'll go out and get some fresh air. It's really hot and sunny here at the moment: I hope I don't shrivel up like Barnabas Collins. All those films. And for what? I should be out flexing my pectorals and parading like a peacock for all those beautiful girls who are strutting around with their pectorals out in the air. But I am too old for them to look at me, and, thankfully, I am married, so I don't have to worry about it. So, life is quite good, thanks. I get a few movies in ("films" in the You Ess Of Kay!), the weather's quite good, and one manages to relax with the help of self-help books. Oh, how my plants need watering! I tend them with loving care. Now THAT is important. I've seen many a film, I'll tell you, it's all water under the bridge. We smile, but we don't know why. Just give me a cat's life, the bare necessities, ooh those goddam bare necessities, I'll tell you 'bout my trouble and my strife, ooh those bare necessities, those bluddy bare necessities, dee doo dee doo dee doo dee doo de doo doo and something that rhymes with it.
posted 07-10-2003 04:39 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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I'm getting a wee bit worried about you Graham. Singing on the Internet? You go for those bare necessities. I'll take any luxury items you discard.
posted 07-10-2003 04:48 PM PT (US) 
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VERTICAL LIMITMan, what a laugh, such a stupid film that I had to own it on DVD, Nitro Glycerene and Chris O'Donnell doing super heroic leaps across vast expanses...ludicrous or what?! This film is nothing more than escapist rubbish and I can see myself returning to this again in the future for another couple hours of nonsense!

The scenery is, of course, spectacular! Taking in vistas from the States and Pakistan's Concordia region where K2 is situated, with some mountains from Canada standing in for lower altitude stuff where film makers might fear to tread! Considering most of the worlds mountain peaks end where the Himalaya/Karakoram begin you can't really blame them.
James Newton Howard's score is excellent, just love that sweeping main theme!
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posted 07-10-2003 05:36 PM PT (US) 
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Timmer, my favourite "stupid" moment in "Vertical Limit" is when Chris O'Donnell leaps across that ravine and manages to get his ice picks hooked into the rock face on the other side, perfectly stopping and holding on!!
Did no-body mention to the producers about a little thing called "inertia"? More realistic would have been Chris O' Donnell smashing himself totally into the rock face and leaving a silhouette shape of his body not unlike that which the wily ole' Coyote would leave in the Road Runner cartoons. Gae
posted 07-12-2003 08:31 AM PT (US) 
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Thanks for your concern, Joan. I'm better now, and promise not to sing.Timmer and Gae - so, what's better, VERTICAL LIMIT or CLIFFHANGER? As I said, I thought CLIFFHANGER was excellent, but maybe it's really crap. Is VERTICAL LIMIT as good crap as CLIFFHANGER, or is it just crap crap?
I must admit, after Lou Goldberg's and Bob Bowd's retirement, my enthusiasm was kind of dampened, so I haven't posted anything here since. The wind is still kind of out my sails, so I'm not putting any anal-retentive cast and credits onto these thoughts, nor am I even thinking much about what I'm writing, but... what have I seen...?
Well, I saw another Spike Lee movie, GET ON THE BUS. This has a microcosm of black universe getting on a bus to go to a march. Quite clever, quite well scripted and acted, but ultimately false. Why do they only talk about race issues on the journey? There are gay blacks, racist blacks, all kinds of blacks mouthing off eloquently, but the film never overcomes its artificial premise. But maybe that artificiality was necessary in order to get its point across. It all ends up smacking of a mixture of nobility and sentimentality. Very questionable use of songs on the soundtrack, even when it's not source, behind dialogue etc. Terence Blanchard's score doesn't stand a chance.
Saw THE HULK today. Some great things in it, but in general I found it very over-extended. I could have done without the dad turning into a big energy monster to fight his son. Amazing effects (even if the Hulk's leaps and bounds are almost too funny), rather heavy-handed family background stuff, and a very frantic Danny Elfman score, but intermittently impressive. I'd still cut half an hour out.
Might get back soon to really thinking before I post. Yes, Graham, we tink dat wood be a goord idea.
posted 07-19-2003 03:35 PM PT (US) 
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Graham,VERTICAL LIMIT = good crap

I actually bought this on DVD (cheaply!), it's got more heart stopping moments than Cliffhanger, superb photography and a better score....all In My Not So Humble Opinion
, and surely 'no Sylvester Stallone' could be seen as a bonus?!Gae, That 'Ravine' leap is even more ridiculous when you consider it was supposed to be at an altitude of around 25000ft, anyone who's watched 'Mt Everest and the like' documentaries (of which there have been a lot recently due to the 50th anniversary) will know that it's difficult to put one foot in front of the other at that height let alone do a death defying leap!
NOTE: Graham, I've always enjoyed reading your reviews here, just because I don't contribute much doesn't mean I'm not regularly reading here, I miss big Lou too and hope he'll change his mind and come back?!
I guess I could do with contributing a bit more here myself?!

posted 07-22-2003 09:44 AM PT (US) 
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I rented several movies, so far.BEST: Adaptation
Originally, I held off on this because I wasn't so sure they could pull it off with N cage playing 2 roles overlayed in a scene(s). I consider this film to be pure brilliance... great premise, screenplay, acting, everything.
WORST: Gods And Generals
I had read the reviews and was braced for the worst, but being a Civil War buff I had to see it and decide for myself. In short, this movie in MONUMENTALLY bad. It's a study in how not to make a movie. I haven't seen such a wooden screenplay and acting since the "The Ten Commandments", a flick I consider as the litmus test for banality.
In the middle of the movie a union soldier and rebel awkwardly exchange coffee for 'backy' (tobacco). All I could think was I wanted my $3 rental fee 'backy'.

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posted 07-22-2003 03:27 PM PT (US) 
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Yikes, Scorro, I just rented Gods and Generals to watch over the next few days. Too late for a return. Not getting a good feeling about this.Even if you think The Ten Commandments is poorly acted, you've got to love those Bernstein moments of epic melodies!
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posted 07-22-2003 04:30 PM PT (US) 
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Timmer, I've been in touch with Lou G and, sadly, there's no going back on his retirement. Well, there are still you folks. I know, there are many passive readers out there who click on and read even if they don't post, so we can consider ourselves newspaper reporters, whereby millions of MovieMusicBoard clickers click on and say to themselves "what a load of bollox" without actually replying. That in itself is positive.Regarding your comments on VERTICAL LIMIT's death leap at 25,000 feet, well, no such prob with CLIFFHANGER. They only jumped at three feet above sea level, evident in the studio lighting in some early shots. I still like the film.
Scorro and Joan, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS is an incredibly artificial film. Just look at some of that painterly posturing against painted backdrops. In a way, I consider the film to be a kind of anachronism even in the mid-50s. A comic book, Cecil B. De Mille style. The Elmer score is rousing, but it also seems loathe to look ahead. Miklos Rozsa was more advanced in QUO VADIS, five years earlier. Some of Bernstein's action cues sound like they're straight out of a 40s serial. Funny to think that he was just starting out, and not finishing his career.
posted 07-23-2003 01:38 PM PT (US) 
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Scorro, I forgot to mention, I too thought that ADAPTATION was great. One of the most satisfying films I've seen in a long time. I loved the way the Nicolas Cage characters were opposites yet identical. It could have gone for the Jerry Lewis NUTTY PROFESSOR idea of opposites, but no, there was Cage with his see-through Gene Wilder orange hair, one character smart and cool, the other weak and insecure. Great performance. Good ideas in the script too. I felt it got a bit ordinary towards the end with the chase etc, but it was an interesting movie.Have a few things lined up to see - Orson Welles' THE STRANGER, the apocalyptic ON THE BEACH etc. Ah, that's a good idea. Instead of watching ON THE BEACH I'll GO to the beach! How was it for you, Joan? Sandy sandwiches?
posted 07-23-2003 01:56 PM PT (US) 
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Joan, Oops! I hope you like G&G's more than I.
Sometimes I go over to Amazon to see what the masses think, and the movie rcv'd a higher overall rating than I would have expected. It's such a tremendously compelling and important time in American history... really deserves the best treatment.BTW, if you haven't seen "Ride With The Devil" directed by Ang Lee, check it out. It's a Civil War era movie with some edge and authenticity.
Graham, Glad someone else liked Adaptation! I also chk'd at Amazon on that one and it's a very mixed bag on reviews. Not surprising. I did a doubletake when I watched the movie again and early on Cage's meek character blurts out everything he DOESN'T want the movie to be... and well, guess what!
posted 07-23-2003 02:58 PM PT (US) 
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Graham, the beach was fabulous. 75 degrees and sunny. Now I'm home, and it is 106. Yeowser!Scorro, I too liked Ride With the Devil. Very different. Haven't gotten to GG yet. Sounds like I need to rent Adaptation.
posted 07-23-2003 04:17 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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ON THE BEACH... original or remake?Or are you just sunning yourself ON...errr?...THE BEACH?!

posted 07-23-2003 05:12 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Timmer, I have the original ON THE BEACH waiting in line to be watched. I'll also be ON THE BEACH sunning myself in a week's time. Don't know what'll come first, watching or being.
posted 07-25-2003 01:11 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little

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I watched Cast Away on DVD. Spoilers.First off, I'll have to say that this film has one of the best sound designs I've ever heard. The DTS track, unsurprisingly, has a slight edge over the DD counterpart. It almost sounds like the surround channels on the DTS track are attenuated by a few dB, but whatever the difference is, it certainly created a more realistic sound. At one point in the very beginning of the film, it sounded as though the FedEx truck was in the driveway behind my viewing area. Very rarely do soundtracks fool me into looking out the window behind me...
The beginning of this film is great. The plane crash sequence is amazing. But I was left disappoined with the middle of the film and highly let down by the ending.
I thought the ending with the Helen Hunt character that had moved on and married another man was just ripped off from The Dead Zone. The "four corners" ending was a big cop out as well. I expect a writer to write the end of the movie, not to just get tired of writing and leave me with an ambiguous ending. It's even more frustrating to think that a film took over two hours to reach this disappointing ending.
Now onto the middle of the film... Why did we have to see this poor guy cut up so much? It was almost comical. I thought the "rotten tooth" ordeal probably could have been edited out of this film completely, as it did nothing other than force me to fast forward through the tooth extraction scene. Perhaps this was a lesson to keep our teeth in good shape so that we don't have to remove them with the blade of an ice skate? I dunno.
I think the first section of Hanks' ordeal on the island could have been summed up into a ten minute montage. Show him making fire. Show him opening the FedEx packages. Show him making shelter and getting food. Ok, now jump forward four years and show the making of the raft and leave that damn island. Wow, I just shaved about an hour off of this overly long picture.
I think the makers of this film were probably too busy patting themselves on the back to cut this movie down to a watchable length. After a while it just gets tedious seeing some of this survival stuff, especially when I know deep in my head that this guy is surrounded by dozens of people who are working on the film.
To sum up this film:
- Great beginning and sound design
- Too long on the island. I felt that I nearly spent 4 years watching it.
- Very disappointing ending
[Message edited by jonathan_little on 07-28-2003]
posted 07-28-2003 03:21 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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THE PIANIST - Roman PolanskiJust finished watching this, incredible film...I'm speechless!
posted 07-28-2003 03:43 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
- Great beginning and sound design
