Jz

No new music in the trailer though...and it ended sort of a little too upbeat with that Ewok music from ROTJ.

Way too much CGI in my opinion. And CGI doesn't look real enough yet.

As far as music goes...there's an upbeat piece playing when it appears as if Anakin and Padme are chasing/being chased through some kind of factory. I did not recognize--perhaps new material?

I was trying not to get excited over the past few months...all for nothing now...bring it on!!

ATTACK OF THE CLONES!!!

Change it to "I DESPISE HANZIMMER and/or DANUTS ELFMAN" fan club.

Remember: hate is for the weak of mind.

As for MISSION TO MARS... well, I always open to talk about great film music!

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Originally posted by Tim_P:
There's just no way this film can viewed as anything other than an improvement over Episode One...

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2 hours of a blank wall with paint drying would be an improvement over Episode One..........

Dan

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2 hours of a blank wall with paint drying would be an improvement over Episode One..........

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That all depends on what colour paint it was... Nice shade of red maybe?

Dan (the other one)

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Who could possibily criticize a sci-fi film for having an excess of CGI?

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Having seen WING COMMANDER, I can.

Personally, I fear for John Williams' music, as I kind of did before Ep. 1. There's a lot of action and sound effects, which has never been good for the music (notice that in the prequel trilogy there was no music in the lightsaber fights save the last one), and I think we might see some more butchering, though reports say the music is fantastic.

Your filmscore pal,
Kyri
..the guy who always jumps right into the party when it's already finished...

Erik

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Originally posted by JeffBond:
Well, everyone seems to agree that the CGI looks like great CGI. Did anyone pay attention to the scenes with PEOPLE in them? Looks like the acting will actually be worse than TPM, if that's possible (why is it that the oldest actor in the movie, Christopher Lee, seems to be the only one capable of delivering a performance in the sterile greenscreen environment Lucas creates?). And seriously, if someone told you in 1981 that in a future Star Wars movie Obi-Wan Kenobi would deliver the line "I hate it when he does that..." would you have believed it? Why not just go back and redub the first trilogy of movies with lines like "Oh, don't even go there!" and "I'm not a happy camper!"

AOTC will probably be a great-looking cartoon but it will continue to diminish the legacy of the original movies in my opinion. The first two films were fun, lightweight entertainment, but at least they took the world they created seriously. They convinced you of their reality through the attitude of the actors and some incredible design craftsmanship that was needed because you couldn't just create everything on a computer. Now it's easy to create thousands of stormtroopers and spaceships but guess what, it still takes a lot of effort and commitment to create a good acting performance, and Lucas apparently has no interest in that any longer.

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Dan

Of course, Luke whining about wanting to leave home in Ep. IV was top-notch screen writing and acting.

I tend to believe we have all grown jaded and cynical over the years. Try and transport yourself back to 1977..whether you were 5 years old or 15 the movie held a special magic for you. Over the years it has been ingrained in your memory...we are biased...the movies are mythos...and unfortunately we as people cannot view the new films in the same light.

Complain about CGI...Star Wars had an over-abundance of model effects work for its time. Nothing has changed...except us.

At the same time, I can still watch the first three films and love them today, as much of a cynical bastard I have become.

I watch Episode 1 and I just cringe -- I've explained why before.

As for the trailer, it is definitely fun, but I just don't know. As much as I see this guy playing Anakin spit out dialogue, the less and less I'm impressed; the guy simply CANNOT act (in this role) if the trailers are any indication.

The CGI looks wicked and out of this world, really, but those ENORMOUS battle scenes, again, put false hope into my soul. The battle near the end of Episode 1 was enormous, but still dull as all hell, yet when we saw shots of it in the first teaser, it looked great.

The shots with the dark blue shade and Jango Fett, however, look wonderful.

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Of course, Luke whining about wanting to leave home in Ep. IV was top-notch screen writing and acting.

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No, it wasn't - and I thought that STAR WARS is a pretty bad movie, compared to TESB and ROTJ. TESB is overall the best, probably because Lucas had very little to do with it. Where's Lawrence Kasdan when you need him?! (Now at least HE can write!)

Dan

(why is it that the oldest actor in the movie, Christopher Lee, seems to be the only one capable of delivering a performance in the sterile greenscreen environment Lucas creates?)

Because Mr. Lee is a seasoned professional actor and a Legend in his own lifetime who knows how to create a "character" when doing an on screen performance.

In a recent interview, he explained how, over the years, he has had to act in front of "back projection" and then "yellow screens?" for Disney and now the "green screens" of Star Wars. So to Mr. Lee it is just a continuation of the tradition of movie making that he has been a memorable part of for almost half a century.

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Originally posted by Hasta:
[B]As for the trailer, it is definitely fun, but I just don't know. As much as I see this guy playing Anakin spit out dialogue, the less and less I'm impressed; the guy simply CANNOT act (in this role) if the trailers are any indication.

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Maybe those are all the lines he gets.

Lucas: Hayden, shutup and swing your lightsaber

Hayden: Ok.

Now, if you're a Christopher Lee, this is great. An experienced master of the craft can do wonders with this kind of freedom.

If you're a Jake Lloyd, things are quite different. A less experienced actor will most likely need more than a simply position to stand in.

Add to that Lucas' somewhat degenerating ability to write dialogue and you get performances that are not as good as they could be.

Now, I don't count myself among the cynics of Star Wars discussion. I liked Episode 1. It wasn't near the level of the first trilogy, but I liked it. But that doesn't mean I can't criticize it where I see fit... and I see fit to criticize it for that.

The abundance of CGI does not bother me at all. It does indeed make the Academy's new animation category seem a little too late. Osmosis Jones qualified even though it was partly live action, and I have a feeling that, speaking in percentages, Episode 2 will have a larger ratio of animation to live action than Osmosis did. But that's the Academy's problem, not Lucas's.

What's my point? I honestly don't know. I'll be there opening day, with my pre-bought ticket. I'll decide then.