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      What Have You Seen In MARCH? (Page 2)

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    Topic:   What Have You Seen In MARCH?

     Lou Goldberg
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    Graham--Amazing you've been seeing a ton of films I've never seen so I can't comment on them.

    I have seen Loneliness of the Lost Distance Runner (it shows in the US on TCM in April). I know it's supposed to be a pro-rebellion indictment of how horrible poverty in class-conscious Britain is supposed to be, but the guy's a jerk, he could just cross the line and it would save him a lot of trouble. Oh sure, it's a personal victory on two levels, he knows he's the best and he didn't bow to Redgrave's pressure, but he now has a couple of years of tough life in the slammer to wonder if he made the right move after all.

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    posted 03-27-2002 03:14 AM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    That's right Lou, Tom Courtenay in THE LONELINESS is the ultimate nihilistic anti-hero: he doesn't do the right thing even when it's easy for him to do so. I thought that was one of the film's more interesting points, though it hardly makes for a great movie in itself.

    I saw one of Brian DePalma's early films again, one which I'd raved about here a while back. It's called HI, MOM!, and on second viewing it was still great! Robert De Niro is a voyeur who has a short-lived career making porno films (or "Peep Art" as he calls it) - filming the neighbours from the window of his flat. Anyway (don't ask why), he ends up involved with a black urban guerrilla group.

    The narrative logic may be evasive, but it doesn't matter: this film had me laughing out loud consistently, that is up until the one-hour mark when things turn extremely disturbing with a lengthy mock documentary. That bit, though brilliantly done, kind of left a bad taste, but on the whole HI, MOM!, with its semi-improvised dialogues and exaggeratedly naturalistic performances, is a gas, and it's interesting to see how, even back then, DePalma was doing Hitchcock homages. Other parts look ahead to everything from TAXI DRIVER to Woody Allen (De Niro's hilarious seduction of one of the neighbours, for example). Or maybe that's just New York.

    The music is a mixture of folky/ pop/ blaxploitation instrumentals and songs, very much of their time.

    I want everyone to see HI, MOM!

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    posted 03-27-2002 02:35 PM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    Oh, I forgot the credits.

    HI, MOM! (USA 1969)

    Directed by Brian De Palma
    Screenplay by Brian De Palma
    Photography by Robert Elfstrom
    Music by Eric Kaz

    Main Cast: Robert De Niro, Jennifer Salt, Gerrit Graham

    Here's another one -

    MALLRATS (USA 1995)

    Directed by Kevin Smith
    Screenplay by Kevin Smith
    Photography by Paul Dixon
    Music by Ira Newborn

    Main Cast: Jeremy London, Jason Lee, Shannon Doherty, Claire Forlani, Michael Rooker, Ben Affleck

    Young loafers hang around a shopping mall, and one of them plots to win back the girl he's just lost.

    I'm too old for teen comedies, but this starts off quite well, with a much more perceptive and acidic script than the norm. Sadly, it does degenerate into just another crass teen movie, and it's sad to see a good actor like Michael Rooker looking so uncomfortable. Incidentally, the version I saw was apparently twenty minutes shorter than the original release, but I'm not complaining.

    Ira Newborn's score takes the super-serious approach to comedy of AIRPLANE and NAKED GUN. I'd like to hear him put his talents to work on a decent drama or action film (maybe he'd do a comedy score!)

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    posted 03-27-2002 02:51 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    When I finally watched Greetings, another early DePalma film, DeNiro was doing the same thing with the camera as in Hi, Mom.

    Hi, Mom--this is 60s radical indie to be sure. If someone had told me this guy'd be making Mission: Impossible with Tom Cruise, I'd be like, "What?!" And yes, when the street theater people start torturing those folks, the comedy goes and it is indeed disturbing. Maybe that's the point--to shake you up with very different tones and events.

    Was going to watch a movie and didn't. Was going to watch a Star Trek episode instead and didn't. There was a free gamelan concert and I didn't go. In the end, I read a little and went back to bed. So much for seeing new stuff to talk about for this topic.

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    posted 03-27-2002 09:12 PM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    Lou, don't feel too guilty. You could do worse things than read and go to bed (two of my favourite hobbies). And if you DO feel bad about it, then you can turn over a new leaf for the April thread (though you did well with this one: thanks, everyone, it got to two pages!)

    I'd be interested to see those other early De Palma's - GREETINGS, and...what were the other ones...THE WEDDING PARTY (?) and GET TO KNOW YOUR RABBIT (?). De Palma really seems to have lost it.

    Have got epics coming out my orifices now, having sat through large chunks of TV's standard Easter fare - CLEOPATRA, SPARTACUS, THE ROBE, DEMETRIUS AND THE GLADIATORS etc. I've always loved watching this stuff, even the ones people don't think are any good, and the music is invariably magnificent. Today I was particularly struck by Newman's scoring of THE ROBE: an incredibly beautiful love theme, and religious passages which had me turning all awe-struck (though I imagine this is the kind of music that the cynics just laugh at). BEN-HUR is on later. I've seen it about a half dozen times, but it's still great, and what a fantastic Rozsa score. I won't get through it all this time however, because there'll be about an hour or more of adverts interspersed. But at least the TV stations are being good and respecting the wide screen formats.

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    posted 03-29-2002 12:06 PM PT (US)     

     Gae
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    Graham, Ben Hur was actually on BBC2 yesterday (no adverts ) and TCM tomorrow. I managed to catch some of the beginning and about the last hour and a half. I think I must have seen the whole film by now as over the years I've seen different sections of it and pieced them together in my mind. The music is of course, as you say, fantastic and the chariot race is just incredible. So much more exciting and intense than the pod-race tribute in Phantom Menace. Here are my thoughts on the reason why. One reason is you can actually see Charlton heston and Stephen Boyd driving the chariots...they are physically there and so adding to the risk/drama of the sequence. Unlike Phantom Menace which you know is all CGI with mock acting (wonderful as it looks). The other element is the emotional content of the sequence. By this stage of the film we are so keen to see Heston and Boyd compete against each other and we so much want Heston to get his revenge one way or another. By this point in the movie we despise Stephen Boyd so much for what he has done to Heston. The intensity of this feeling isn't in the pod race sequence in Phantom menace. O.K. so we want Annakin Skywalker to win the race, but deep down we know he will. We're never certain of the race result in Ben Hur. Also, we dont really hate SEBULBA as much as Stephen's Boyd's character(sorry forgot his name) All we've really seen Sebulba do is beat up Jar Jar Binks...now some people would actually thank him for that!! O.k. so he tampers with Annakin's engine too, but we just dont hate him to the degree we do in Ben Hur. So the sequence is a bit emotionally empty, spectacular though it is!

    One scene in Ben Hur that always bugs me is when the guard opens the door of the cell where Ben Hur's mother and sister have been kept. When he actually sees them he has the most intense look of horror on his face, heightened by the music, while he exclaims "Lepers". I remember, as a child seeing this scene, and I was terrified at what we were going to see when the mother and daughter crawl back to their home, judging by the guards horrific expression. As it turns out, they still look quite attractive with just a few sores on their faces and grey hair. I reckon that guard must have been a righ woolly-woofter the way he reacted and was lucky that Caesar didn't find out as he would have surely sacked him on the spot!!
    The film still has the ability to move the viewer and quite a few times I was holding back the tears, especially in the scenes between Ben Hur and his mother and sister when he discovers them again etc.

    Gae

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    posted 03-30-2002 05:05 AM PT (US)     

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    Rented K-PAX starring Kevin Spacey and Jeff Bridges. Is Spacey really an
    alien from outer space tragically placed in a mental institution or is he insane
    and really delusional? This movie had potential. Hinted at helping inmates
    via One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest. Bridges, in trying to help Spacey, learns
    to help himself. But the end result was a rather flat, slow movie. The director
    never pulled stellar performances from usually stellar actors, and the script
    lacked real drama and heart.

    Ice Age. Just plain loved it. I’ve been dying to see a fun comedy, and I left
    this movie with sore ribs from laughing so much. Beware Lou, it does have
    a maudlin, sappy ending, but this manipulation is more than compensated for
    by a smart, comedic script. While the children in the movie reacted to the
    visuals, the adults roared at the savvy dialogue that quite often was geared
    towards adults. Superbly scored by David Newman. John Leguizamo’s voice
    as the sloth is amazing. How did he get such a sloshy, saliva laden voice?
    See this with the intent of having fun and give the squirrel an Oscar.

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    posted 03-30-2002 10:32 PM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    Gae, did you hear John Williams quoting Miklos in the pod race sequence? It's on the CD.

    Well, I did actually get through all of BEN-HUR yet again, all four and a half hours of it (far too many ads even for the weakest of bladders). I had exactly the same feeling as Gae as regards the leper makeup - just a few Rice Krispies stuck to the chin - not nearly repulsive enough. But it's still a great film, and, although I've seen it umpteen times, this is the first TV screening I know of that started off with the complete 7-minute "Overture": just the screen with those Da Vinci hands, the word "Overture", and that superb Miklos music. Did the Beeb do that too, Gae?

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    posted 03-31-2002 09:22 AM PT (US)     

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    Sorry Graham. As per usual I missed the first part of the movie, saw some of it from then, went out for about an hour and then caught the last hour and a half. The movie started at 2:40pm and finished at 6pm on BBC2. That just goes to show you how many ads were put in on your viewing. It was on TCM today but I didn't tune in. I dont think I could have handled an hour of M.A.S.H. video adverts and "Timelife" music which seem to be the only perpetually looped adverts on TCM Oh well, I'll let them off as at least they give us some great movies for free!

    Gae

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    posted 03-31-2002 10:59 AM PT (US)     

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    Joan--Ice Age didn't sound like my cup of tea even before your sap warning.

    Everyone---OK, I caught a few more original series Star Trek episodes, but I'm not going to discuss them in any detail. Except one--I did see the Return to Tomorrow episode mentioned earlier. Yes, Sargon and the bunch haven't had bodies for a half million years so it's amazing the restraint they show when they are able to get it on. Nimoy is great as Hennock, one of the charms of the show are those rare episodes where Spock loses his Spock character to take on other persona. The "problem" with this episode is that so many people are changing consciousness with each other that it's pretty hard to know who is who and who is where by the end: "Ok, let's see, Sargon's in the Enterprize hull, Spock is in Nurse Chapel who Hennock in Spock thinks is under his mental control, and...." One subtle but great moment, even more than Kirk's grin at having been able to help Sargon make out, is when Nurse Chapel, who forever has the hots for Spock, explains where Spock's consciousness was. She says, "we exchanged consciousness," as if it were like sharing something special with Spock, and you can see Spock just stiffen up like he's embarrased by the whole thing and wants nothing to do with her.

    Caught a wonderfully fun episode of The Avengers from 1967: Dead Man's Treasure, directed by Sidney Hayers who directed Burn Witch Burn (and maybe Circus of Horrors as well, I'm not sure). In any case, this was a blast. A dying agent hides the papers in a lock box that is the prize for a benefit auto rally. Steed and Peel have to drive through the English countryside with other contestants finding clues to where the box is. There are 2 foreign spies, a freelancer, a butler who might have done it, a racecar arcade game that gives off deadly electric shocks, Peel jumping and judo-ing some guy, a quirky English lass whose fiancees have all come to bitter ends, a great sign switch gag, and all sorts of neat British cars zooming around. And, on top of all that, is the hot hot hot Diana Rigg and a neat Laurie Johnson ditty for the motor race. A delight.

    The Roots of Heaven (1958) directed by John Huston and scored by Malcolm Arnold. Arnold's score may be one of the finest ever written for a film, but I'm used to hearing it on its own as music rather than as a companion piece for visuals. Neat to see the shots that inspired all the phrase changes, but the sparse use of score (35 minutes of a 130 minute film), while it may help the film, diminishes the scoring: while watching the film and hearing one brief cue every 10 minutes, you don't come away realizing what a masterpiece it all adds up to. As for the film itself, while I wish Hollywood was still making Technicolor widescreen films in Africa, this one did have its weaknesses. The cast was great--Trevor Howard, Errol Flynn, Paul Lukas, Herbert Lom, and the absolutely wonderful to look at Juliette Greco. The story less so. For all it's talk about saving elephants, we only see them in a few shots and at a distance, so that they always remain an abstraction, a cause for these people to fight for but never a reality you understand. It also seems as if the characters are trying to recover from their psychological guilts and wounds from WW2 more than act in favor of the elephants. The shifting alliances become confusing and inexplicable. Habib is paying the ivory hunters, then joins with Morell and the pro-elephant bunch, then changes back, attacks the elephants and captures Morell, and then lets him go. Morell too goes from someone working within the system to a renegade to someone with serious doubts and maybe even a martyr complex to going back to being a renegade again. In any case, this film is much more about personalities and politics than it is about action. It's remakably pro-environment for the 50s, and it has a Black nationalist as a key character, but the film still considers women 2nd class participants and the African natives as mere decoration--whatever the cause, it's only White Man that can effect change for the good. So, despite the actors, the visuals, the score, and good intentions, the film is a bit of a mixed bag. Maltin gives it 2 1/2 stars which seems to me about right.

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    posted 03-31-2002 09:36 PM PT (US)     

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    Lou, glad you caught Return to Tommorrow. It was a lot of fun. Yesterday I caught another episode of trek about a planet overrun by Nazis. It didn't really hold my attention, but was playing in the background. One thing though was that it was just so campy...even more than usual. The scene where a bare-chested Kirk and Spock are whipped by a Nazi with a small designer whip is hilarious. When Kirk gets whipped on his shoulder, he doesn't scream in agony or anything but just gives a kind of scornful look at the Nazi as if to say "Would you mind not doing that, its annoying!" His whole body is covered with scars from the whipping and yet he shows no sign of pain...he sure was one tough cookie that Captain Kirk.
    With regards to Malcolm Arnold, I remember vaguely a story about Robert Wise, I think, at a premiere of a Malcolm Arnold scored film. He was introduced to Wise as "Malcolm Arnold" the composer, to which Wise replied.."I know. You composed one of the greatest scores ever written for a movie... Whistle Down the Wind". Apparently, Mr. Arnold was very moved by this comment as he admired Robert Wise as a director. O.K. so its a very vague retelling but thats about how I remember it.
    Another more personal Malcolm Arnold story happened a few years back when I used to work as a teacher for the "Technics Music Academy". One of Technics pianists and representatives was telling me a story about the day they visited malcolm Arnold at his home in order to promote one of their digital pianos. Apparently, Mr. Arnold has gone slightly eccentric/senile in recent years and he offended one of the top brass from Technics during the visit. This particular man who he insulted is a very talented organist and in a high position within the company. He is a rather large sized man with short dark hair and a small toothbrush moustache. Anyway, as he walked in the room, apparently, the first thing that Malcolm Arnold said in a rather gruff and very posh English accent was "What are you doing bringing Oliver Hardy into my home!!" I'm sure there were a few embarassed looks after that. Anyway, its a true story and was told to me at one of technics Dinner functions a few years back!

    Gae

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    posted 04-01-2002 09:45 AM PT (US)     

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    Great stories and comments about de world of de telly and de moshun pix, folks! Nobody noticed my April TomFoolery deliberate mishtake about de hands in Ben-Hur? No no no, it no Da Vinci. It da Miguel Ángel ! Stoopid me, just as welly it was deliberate April Foolery and no real big ignoramus fooh pah!

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