I've seen the film 3 times and today I'll watch it again.

Peter Jackson did a wonderful job. The movie is fuc*ing awesome but I could find some little mistakes or editing problems:

- The triple slow motion of Frodo's stomachache (The Troll fight scene). It was unnecessary.

- Galadriel blue mutatio. A flash transformation would be much more suitable.

- Sam clothes are dry after Frodo rescue him. This problem only occurs on back takes.

- Gandalf hair at Moria. When Frodo ask him about Gollum, they talk about Bilbo's decision. Gandalf's hair remains moving even when he is not talking.

I don't think in the next movies we are going to find similar problems because PJ will have more time.

But, who am I to criticize the most fantastic and glorious movie I've seen?

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Originally posted by Soundtracker:
The triple slow motion of Frodo's stomachache (The Troll fight scene). It was unnecessary.

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I disagree. I think the fight scenes were handled perfectly. They're quick and confusing, since they're not about heroism but a desperated defense. But to emphasize the shock of the characters when Frodo is stabbed, you have to slow things down. Besides, it's just like "viewing your life" before you die - when in shock, things slow down. And bear in mind how the score remains "slow", even when they slay the troll. It has to feel like an "end", and IMHO it does.

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Sam clothes are dry after Frodo rescue him. This problem only occurs on back takes.

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Well, they're far more in the south than in the beginning of their story... Just kidding.

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Gandalf hair at Moria. When Frodo ask him about Gollum, they talk about Bilbo's decision. Gandalf's hair remains moving even when he is not talking.

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Huh? Gandalf talks by moving his hair??

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Originally posted by Soundtracker:
The triple slow motion of Frodo's stomachache (The Troll fight scene). It was unnecessary.

Galadriel blue mutatio. A flash transformation would be much more suitable.

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Well, those aren't mistakes, just opinions.

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Originally posted by Soundtracker:
Sam clothes are dry after Frodo rescue him. This problem only occurs on back takes.

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I thought the same thing the first 3 times I saw the movie, but when I saw it the fourth time on an IMAX screen I noticed little individual droplets all over the cloak. My rationale is that Elvish cloaks don't soak up water, so it wouldn't actually look damp, but there was still water all over it. You can see this on Frodo's cloak as well. If you want to talk mistakes, the movie never explains how they got those cloaks in the first place.

And watch for the lack of continuity in Frodo's tears just before he shoves off alone in the boat.

I don't think we'll have any less mistake in the next two films. These types of little goofs occur in every film, regardless of how much time they have to edit it. They've written whole books about such problems in various Star Trek media.

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Huh? Gandalf talks by moving his hair??

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His beard is still moving as though he is talking.

Even though the movie was awesome and all, though not perfect, one thing keeps bugging me. Maybe it doesn't apply to Hobbits, but it definitely applies to humans. On their long trek towards Mordor, when and how do they shave?

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Originally posted by Kosh:
Just one question:

On their long trek towards Mordor, when and how do they shave?

Just askin'

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...and they never have to go to the bathroom or change clothes or clean their teeth or have hair that is not perfect..

Even though the movie was awesome and all, though not perfect, one thing keeps bugging me. Maybe it doesn't apply to Hobbits, but it definitely applies to humans. On their long trek towards Mordor, when and how do they shave?

Aaaaaaahhh!

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Originally posted by James:
I thought the same thing the first 3 times I saw the movie, but when I saw it the fourth time on an IMAX screen I noticed little individual droplets all over the cloak. My rationale is that Elvish cloaks don't soak up water, so it wouldn't actually look damp, but there was still water all over it. You can see this on Frodo's cloak as well.

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Hmm, very clever!

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If you want to talk mistakes, the movie never explains how they got those cloaks in the first place.

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Can't wait for the DVD!

* Tears uniformly drip from the middle of the eyelid. Real tears come from the corners. I kept envisioning the man-with-eyedropper ducking off-camera just before the take. Aren't real actors supposed to be able to cry on command?

* No water vapor on the breath, even when surrounded by snow. Add it digitally for the DVD, because it's a big distraction for those of us with any experience being outside in winter.

* As someone observed, Sam's clothes are not uniformly wet after Frodo pulls him out of the water. His hair is dripping, but his cloak is dry.

* At the end of the film, Sam and Frodo have a five-minute struggle/conversation in placid water ... twenty feet from the lip of a waterfall. The producers must have forgotten they added a humongous special-effect right off-camera. Oops.

* When Boromir tries to take the ring and Frodo slips it on, it is on the chain. When Frodo takes OFF the ring, it is no longer on the chain. When he opens his hand, it is back on the chain. Technically, Frodo could have taken the time to remove then reattach the ring ... but why?

AND THE MOST TERRIBLE BLUNDER OF ALL ...

* The first arrow hits Boromir in the shoulder. Then, amidst frenzied editing, the arrow LEAPS to his waist and the SECOND arrow hits him in the shoulder. And THEN a mysterious hole appears in his jacket between the arrows ... right where the third arrow is ABOUT to hit.

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Originally posted by Wedge:
* As someone observed, Sam's clothes are not uniformly wet after Frodo pulls him out of the water. His hair is dripping, but his cloak is dry.

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I think I explained this one already...

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Originally posted by Wedge:
* The first arrow hits Boromir in the shoulder. Then, amidst frenzied editing, the arrow LEAPS to his waist and the SECOND arrow hits him in the shoulder. And THEN a mysterious hole appears in his jacket between the arrows ... right where the third arrow is ABOUT to hit.

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Really?? I didn't notice this in any of my viewings, and none of the places I've been to that have been talking about mistakes have mentioned it. Time for a fifth show....

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Originally posted by Peter Criss:
C´mon guys the movie is not big deal..another digital video game to impress little kids...

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In fact this movie was made to piss-off pretentious and self-indulgent jerks who hate video games and never were kids...

--Brian

--Brian

In that same news broadcast, I mentioned above, they said it was 37 errors detected so far. Just wanted to add to the confusion....

The only mistake of any interest here (or one that could be viewed as a real blunder) is Boromir and the arrows. Truth be told, I didn't notice in three viewings so it can't be that bad. But thanks for pointing it out Wedge.

Keith--by not seeing the movie you're denying yourself a real treat. Whether you think its great cinema or not, its still a fun and inspiring 3-hours.

I assure you that this news changed my life forever and that I feel kind of privilegied.

Like Keith mentioned earlier, there was indeed a car (or a moving vehicle of some sorts, definitely not a Middle-Earth invention) driving by in the background during the scene where Frodo and Sam are in the fields and Sam comments on how the next step he takes will be the farthest he has ever been away from home. For those are who interested--though I don't personally recommend it because examining the movie on a technical level really takes away from the story--you can see some heavy dust flaring up in the dirt road in the background and without a doubt it's a car of some sorts. I can't believe the editors didn't catch this one....

But the worst error (I would like to argue that it was the worst editing mistake in film editing history because it detracted from the story SO MUCH, especially from a movie that could've been the best of all time, of course, that is my opinion) would have to be those arrows piercing Boromir. It's correct that Boromir was first shot in the shoulder, yet right before he was shot with the second arrow, the first arrow all of a sudden jumped to his abdominal region and then the second arrow hits him in the shoulder (again)? I got a little angry that such a mistake flawed a movie I loved so much, that I just couldn't take the scene seriously anymore.

Where exactly were the editors (or Peter Jackson for that matter) during post-production?!

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Originally posted by Swashbuckler:
Actually, in the book it is Glorfindel who triggers the waters.

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Nope. Elrond triggers the flood. Glorfindel just uses torches to chase the Nazgul into the river (with the help of Aragorn and the other 3 hobbits).

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Since Glorfindel and Arwen are combined in the film, I don't have much of a problem with this.

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For me, the decision to make Arwen take Glorfindel's role was perfect. It's the fact that she carries Frodo across the ford (taking away an extremely important sequence from his character - though it works very well in the film if you don't know about the original version) and her triggering the flood.

I guess I'll have to wait for the DVD to see if there is any truth to it.

I remember when, back in school in 1991, I did a very ambitious video film project. I executed the entire post-production (editing, music, etc) ALONE by myself, and I was in a big hurry to get the film finished for Christmas Holidays.

Then, after Christmas, we finally watched the film together with some members of my cast. One of the actors began to laugh almost hysterically, while pointing out that her hairdo and clothes changed completely when she walked from one room to another - then back again in a third room. I, the director/producer/editor, felt myself so embarrassed for not noticing the thing until THAT TIME - after it we watched the entire movie looking for blunders and we laughed ourselves to death by finding probably couple of hundreds tiny or not-so-tiny blunders - heavy furniture changing places, things disappearing and reappearing in different places, clothes and hairdos changing... BUT, we thought, WHAT THE HELL - THE MOVIE WAS ABOUT THE MOST HAUNTED HOUSE IN ENGLAND, so these mystical things could be considered as purposely-done things
...And, actually, people who have seen the film, have never pointed out any of these blunders with clothes, hairdos, furniture, or other things - I guess that is the purpose of good storytelling; not to be distracted by such minor things

But, naturally nowadays, I would certainly be more cautious with all of the continuity.

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Originally posted by Swashbuckler:
Actually, in the book it is Glorfindel who triggers the waters.

Nope. Elrond triggers the flood. Glorfindel just uses torches to chase the Nazgul into the river (with the help of Aragorn and the other 3 hobbits).

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