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    Topic:   Cinema-going behaviour where YOU live!

     Graham Watt
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    Do people still go to the cinema in your neck of the woods? Film-going seems to be quite a popular hobby here in Spain, even in this day and age.

    BUT, (and this is the real point of this thread), are audiences more or less the same worldwide in their TERRIBLE PIGGISH BEHAVIOUR? Sometimes it really is sheer torture having to put up with the incessant chat, stupid comments and hysterics from huge groups of people who appear to have chosen going to the cinema as a substitute for going to a party.

    It's not only the hilarity, it's also the non-stop munching and slurping that goes on at all showings, even if it's just after mealtimes. The Exorcist was intolerable: it played to a packed house of youngsters, some as young as eight or nine (no age restrictions!) who spent the entire film in fits of laughter.

    Or am I just being old and grumpy? Wouldn't William Castle (for example) be proud of making a film that generated that kind of response? How much "audience participation" would you accept in an Indiana Jones movie? And how much in Schindler's List? Here it's all the same: stupid remarks, constant giggling and continual stuffing of mouths.

    I'd move over to video or DVD except that my family watches TV as if they were at the cinema!

    What's it like where YOU live?

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    posted 12-23-2000 02:25 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    Graham, its the same in Lawrence and other places in U.S. where I have attended films as in Spain. Movies are popular, but the chatting is common and other borish behavior also. The crowds are there for the big films and some for the not so big ones too. People still like to go on dates to the movies and a lot of older folks go to the films too. John.

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    posted 12-23-2000 04:05 PM PT (US)     

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    Graham, those are some of the reasons I stopped going to the cinema a few years back and invested in a projector for my own home theatre. Also, a lot of the new movies dont appeal to me any more as most of them are geared towards the TEEN market etc( you can always catch them on DVD?SKY 6 months later anyway. I suppose I'm just getting old and grumpy and more fussy on how I spend my time as I hit 36. Its a bit worrying about what you said about "The Excorcist" being shown with children in the audience. I mean the film was banned for about 20 years wasn't it? That film reminds me over a particularly funny screening I experienced in my College years of that very movie. It was a late night screening, 11pm, and so there were quite a few rowdy and "worse for drink" people in the audience. Anyway,in the "levitation" scene, during the Excorcism, some crazy student jumped out off his seat, up onto the stage and pointed at the screen with a crucifix, shouting out the dialogue "It is the power of Christ that compels you!!!" Needless to say, the whole audiences was in fits of laughter after that one. Usually though, I agree with you Graham, that some Cinema audiences are very badly behaved and spoil the enjoyment of the film!! Gae NP Moonraker

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    posted 12-27-2000 01:53 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Interesting topic. So you get more long-winded hot air...

    Right off the bat--I went to see the re-release of The Exorcist in a theater and was surprised, not shocked or offended, but puzzled that someone had brought an 8 year old boy to it. I mean, was he deliberately trying to give the kid nightmares for the next year?

    I'm a Janus at the movie theater. I'm the first to shush someone talking, but I'm also the worst offender--leaning over to the person next to me and making snide comments where the opportunity presents itself.

    Also, I'm two-sided about being "interactive" with a film. From one perspective, movies aren't reality, and to approach them with a measure of silence and detachment seems a healthy response. On the other hand, to become emotionally swept away, and respond with vocal laughter and commentary seems appropriate sometimes too.

    I love Mystery Science Theater 3000--It was and still can be extremely funny stuff to watch.

    But MST 3000 did, as Rocky Horror did in the 70s, make it more culturally permissible for current moviegoers to talk to and back at movies. MST 3000 continued the trend of a looser respect toward film. MST made it cool to act like in-the-know hipsters who are above movies and even have a right to be a vocal participant of them.

    But perhaps this is part of a necessary, inevitable, and constantly on-going trend to reclaim movies from a certain stuffiness.

    Renata Adler called television "an appliance, not an art form." Having films on TV at home, being able to rent and buy video or DVDs and having them arrive in the mailbox, has all made the Cinema casual and domestic.

    When people go to the theater, they carry this casual notion of film along with them. Movies aren't an audience of strangers at a special event. The room disappears and all people see are the friends they came in with and it's OK to talk with them, right?

    In any case, film isn't sculpture, and movie theaters aren't museums. Film is a popular entertainment and filmgoers are still your average prole. Higher etiquette is for the yacht club, so I don't expect it at the mutiplex. In an age when investment bankers visit the NY Opera in jeans after having been in jeans all day at work too, when manners in general have been sacrificed on the alter of what feels comfortable, I don't see the movie theater as some special hold out.

    Thus, I go with the flow. Going to see a film on a big screen, especially now that larger screens and stadium seating have returned, is still the ideal way to see film. Watching films at home has many advantages, but screen size isn't one of them.

    Pauline Kael talked about the need to become anonymous in a crowd, to hide in the dark, and to enjoy secret subversive thrills. That experience only happens in a theater with an audience. And, for some mysterious reason, comedies come alive in a theater and seem much more funny there. Whatever a film's charm is, it's mostly improved by projection. I remember going to see Plan 9 From Outer Space with a crowd and roaring endlessly. Then I caught it on TV alone and all the fun was gone, it was unbearable, Plan 9 needed a crowd, or at least Crow and Tom Servo, to amplify the comedy and, at home on TV, it didn't have them.

    So, going to the movies is still necessary if you love movies. You can bunker at home, avoid the crowds, see what you want when you want with who you want, you can stop it to go to the bathroom, or shut it off when you get too tired, but what movies mean to you and what they can do for you will suffer and diminish if you stop going out to see them.

    Knowing that, I go to the movies and ride the wave of what the audience is like. And usually if the film is good, it grabs the people and they quiet up or laugh out loud. And, if the film is bad, then it doesn't really matter--all the munching and talking is minor compared to how you're already suffering.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 12-28-2000]

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    posted 12-28-2000 03:17 AM PT (US)     

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    I am lucky in that I work for myself and at
    home. I generally go to the 1st movie of the day. They start between 10 and 12 am and
    normally, during the week, only attended by
    older adults like myself, singles, etc.
    The best thing is that they are cheaper and at times only attended by a few people.
    My Grandson and I saw Toy Story 2 alone if
    you can believe that.
    I see most movies with very little interr uption of any kind. Friday and Saturday nites are a horror show and I,m not talking
    about the movie.

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    posted 01-03-2001 04:06 PM PT (US)     

     Stephen Lister
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    I don't remember ever being distracted by annoying chat from others during my movie-going childhood, probably because a child's ability to be swept away and lose contact with his surroundings is much more pronounced - ever tried getting the attention of a kid watching TV? But as I grew older I found my ability to be swept away lessened and I became increasingly aware of the symphony of slurping and bag-rattling and chatter that people bring to the cinema-going experience. I try to go to afternoon screenings when there are fewer people, although if it's a comedy I deliberately choose a crowded venue - that communal laughter thing can really raise the level of a movie.

    Two differing audience experiences I can recall, one bad, one great:

    THE FUGITIVE. I timed this well. Early afternoon screening in LA. Nobody but me in there! And then, two minutes before the movie rolled, a group of Vietnamese people came in. Nice looking bunch, a family. Trouble is, only one of them understood English, so he translated every single word of dialog for the others!

    GANDHI. God, what an INCREDIBLY well-behaved audience! London, Leicester Square. Obviously a civilised movie, so the crowd was very genteel, very quiet, very attentive. You could FEEL their attention, like a visceral thing. They were rivetted by the movie, and at the end - get this - nearly all of them, the whole cinema, stayed to watch the credits and listen to George Fenton & Ravi Shankar's great playout music. They felt so connected to the movie they just didn't want to let go of the experience. I found that immensely moving, and it heightened my enjoyment of the film. Now if only all my cinema experiences were like that!

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    posted 01-03-2001 07:36 PM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    Thanks for all those stories! I'm afraid I can neither buy a home cinema yet nor even go to the showings I want, but I've found a bit of relief lately in GOING TO FILMS THAT NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SEE! Liv Ullmann's Bergman-scripted "Trolosa" sent the two people who shared the cinema with me to sleep, and I'm hoping for the same reaction when I see Woody Allen's new one at the weekend (though apparently he's quite popular in Europe. Damn!)

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