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Topic: X-MEN -- DON'T READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET!! SPOILERS!!!!!
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starblade
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I'm trying to figure out who all the kids we see at Xavier's school are.Bobby Drake (Iceman) is obvious. So is Kitty Pryde and Jubilee. I think the kid with the blue hair will turn out to be Beast. The kid that throws the basketball to himself is Cannonball? or is he Nightcrawler (although he didn't look like what Nightcrawler should look like -- impish)? The ones that are stumping me are; the kid that creates the fireball,
the kid that runs on the water, and was Colossus in there anywhere? Just wondering. Anyone have any ideas?
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posted 07-21-2000 03:22 AM PT (US) ip
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H Rocco
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Watching it a second time, I still wondered myself who everyone was supposed to be. I never spotted Colossus, although he's supposed to be in there; Kitty was easy to spot, though. As for the kid who's making flame in his palm, once Bobby prankishly ices it up and it crashes to the floor, Storm turns around sternly: "John!" she says. Of course, the Human Torch's original name is Johnny (the Fantastic Four Torch, of course, not the WW2/Invaders Torch). He wasn't an X-Man, but this might just be one of the picture's several in-jokes (e.g. the offhanded pair of references to Henry Peter Gyrich; I bet a quarter of a percent of the whole audience got that one.)Someone else suggested that the kid with the basketball ("No fair using powers!") might be a young Nightcrawler, but someone else pointed out that it couldn't be, for what reason, I don't remember. As far as the blue-haired kid being the Beast, that depends on yet another rethinking of the characters' mythoses and origins, since the original Beast was entirely human-looking (he remutated himself into the furry character quite accidentally in the early 1970s -- he started out as grey, then went to black, then went to blue. Jeez, it's embarrassing I remember all this. Oh well, I bet those issues are worth quite a bit now ... eBay here I come ...)
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posted 07-21-2000 09:08 PM PT (US) ip
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James
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This reply is mostly a transposition of what I said in an earlier thread.The fire-wielding kid is indeed Pyro who was an original member of The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. He was NOT Sunfire, because Sunfire is Japanese. He is NOT Cannonball, because Cannonball does NOT wield fire, he only propels himself through the air with a power that bears resemblance to a rocket. He is NOT the Human Torch because Johnny Storm was an astronaut bombarded by radiation on a mission in space, and he is NOT a mutant. Pyro's real name IS in fact John, and he is actually Irish (which would coincide with the kid on screen). Further evidence that he is Pyro is that if you watch closely, he does not create fire, he only manipulates it (he uses a lighter to start the fire). In the comics Pyro wore some attachments on his arms and back which would generate fire, and then he would manipulate it. The Human Torch, on the other hand, could create fire. Jubilee's cameo was in a couple of classroom scenes; she is a Chinese girl with a yellow jacket and GIANT earrings. Bobby is indeed Iceman. The hot dog vendor seen as the Senator emerges from the ocean is Stan Lee. As for the kid who passed the basketball to himself, that was NOT Nightcrawler, for various reasons... Kurt Wagner (Nightcrawler) was born with yellow eyes, blue skin, blue hair, three fingers per hand, two toes per foot, and a prehensile blue arrow-tipped tail. There is also a puff of brimstone when he teleports. I don't think they'd take that many unnecessary liberties just for a cameo. I doubt the kid who ran on the water was Quicksilver, because (a) Quicksilver has white hair, and (b) he wasn't running abnormally fast, he was just running on water. Besides, even if he HAD been running faster, it would have more likely been Thunderbird, who was actually an X-Man. I did not spot Colossus or Cannonball, but I still have to see the movie at least three more times (I've seen it twice so far). James
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posted 07-21-2000 09:57 PM PT (US) ip
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starblade
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James:I, too, do not believe the kid running on the water is supposed to be Quicksilver, because Quicksilver is a lot older than that to be Magneto's brother. I just can't figure out who he is........wasn't Thunderbird a Native American? Ahhh, Pyro.........makes sense. Yep, that's who he is. [This message has been edited by starblade (edited 21 July 2000).] [This message has been edited by starblade (edited 21 July 2000).] [This message has been edited by starblade (edited 21 July 2000).]
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posted 07-21-2000 10:56 PM PT (US) ip
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