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    Topic:   What would you remake?

     MWRuger
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    Let’s lay a little ground work. I am not asking if movies should be remade, for that is a discussion for another thread. I am also not talking about shot for shot remakes to update effects (Psycho). Also this is the Hollywood of our imagination. Assume that you can get it greenlighted

    What I am interested in is, what movie would you remake and why?

    To start the ball rolling, I’ll give you one of my favorite films that would benefit from different interpretation: The Wizard of Oz.

    Now I know it is a classic musical, but that’s just the problem, it shouldn’t be. The book had a lot of really cool things that would have made some nice scenes like when the woodsman fights the Klahidahs and the Hammerheads and a bunch of other cool things. There was even more fantastic stuff in the sequels.

    I think the movie Return to Oz was a step in the right direction, but I think it would have been better to start from scratch and begin again.

    PS. Don’t tell me that it will never happen. I know that already.

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    posted 06-22-2000 05:14 PM PT (US)     

     John Maher
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    There are truly many films that I can think of that would benefit from a remake. I suppose that of all these, I would choose the musical "My Fair Lady". Mainly because it was an incredibly exciting work on stage, and was so dull, as a film. The plodding direction, the studio-bound settings and the lackluster staging of musical numbers, all make this prime for a remake.

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    posted 06-22-2000 06:56 PM PT (US)     

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    Okay. At the risk of being burned at the stake, I'd like to personaly remake North By Northwest. Nothing wrong with the original, it's one of my all-time favorite films. But mine would be more of a rock-solid adrenline rush than a suspensful action/drama.

    I would cast Kevin Conroy (the voice of Batman) in the Cary Grant role, Sandra Bullock (so sue me!!) as Eve Kendall, Alan Rickman in the James Mason role, and Sean Bean (GoldenEye, Patriot Games) in the Martin Landau role.

    I would pump up the action quota with car chases and other explosive effects, but bring in some really great writers to pump up the characters, too. I'd like it to be a movie like Lethal Weapon or Die Hard, an action with great characters among the action. The movie would start in New York, work its way to Mount Rushmore, before finally reaching the action-packed climax in good ole San Francisco.

    My first choice for scoring the film would be Elia Cmiral. (Good ole boy Jerry might not be around by the time I get to make this ). I think Cmiral would do a fantastic job.

    (Interesting sidenote: I actually started writing a story about two years ago called Coast to Coast, heavily based on North By Northwest, but never finished it. But I do have the complete, detailed outline sitting somewhere in my room.)

    This would be the one film I would love to remake. Actually, it wouldn't be a remake. Like the upcoming Planet of the Apes film by Burton, mine would be more of a reinterpretation of a classic film more than a direct "remake."

    Great topic, MWRuger!

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    posted 06-22-2000 07:00 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Speaking of Planet Of The Apes, well...there it is.
    Boulle's Monkey Planet was so very different from the eventual film interpretation, that the idea of simply filming the novel the way it was written would produce an entirely different movie!
    I'm both delighted AND concerned about Tim Burton doing this remake. I don't know which way to waver. He may produce a masterpiece, or miss the mark altogether...only time will tell.
    If I could direct a remake myself, it would be of The Little Prince. Now THERE'S a great piece of material that needs to be done correctly!

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    posted 06-22-2000 08:04 PM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    Chris - Is that the story where the little boy flies from world to world and meets a different person on each one, one of which (I believe) is a streetlamp lighter or something like that?

    I think I read that story in high school (of all places!!)

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    posted 06-22-2000 08:33 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I have something like FIFTEEN YEARS worth of notes on how to remake KING KONG. I think now, however, that my best ideas for that will go into a much more radical original script, also about giant monsters (it's really quite insane, I wonder if I'll be allowed to go ahead with i -- I've hooked up with a producing partner now, and we keep managing to top each other with bizarre twists and images). Yeah, I don't think I want to be saddled with the expectations of remaking KONG. (Oddly enough, when I was in high school, I had fantasies about scoring this one myself! I still have the tunes in my head. I'll probably use them for the original project. Well, not the love theme, there will be no place in this other project for a love theme, believe you me.)

    When the bizarrely conceived (but not poorly done, merely pointless) remake of PSYCHO came out, I thought, "well, if I was going to remake anything scene-for-scene, what would it be?" I figured it would be Ishiro Honda's MATANGO (1963, released here as ATTACK OF THE MUSHROOM PEOPLE and doomed to instant disrespect as a consequence.) It's a fascinating picture that few people ever give a chance. (I don't recommend available American prints anyway, the dubbing is poorly acted and recorded, and it's not LETTERBOXED, nor is the voluptuousness of the color preserved. Not as bad as what happened to THE TELEGRAPHED MAN, though, in which case the distributor was so cheap they wouldn't even pay for a color print! It went out in B&W! And I like black and white, but this movie wasn't LIT for it, that's a whole other science.) I'm not sure I would want to remake this one, the original is perfect as it is, but it would be interesting as an exercise. I suppose I'd want Christopher Young to score it.

    I also think it would be interesting to take on one of Akira Kurosawa's most underrated and little-seen (Stateside) movies, THE BAD SLEEP WELL. I already know what the final shot would be. I think I would take a much different approach to a lot of the exposition, however, especially in the last half hour or so. Here's the surprise for ya: I'd do what was done on CAPE FEAR and PSYCHO, and insist on retaining Masaru Sato's doomy, gloomy BAD SLEEP WELL score for my version. I can't imagine anything else working for me. If I can't have that for whatever reason, however, I guess either Christopher Young or Carter Burwell, or even some younger genius I haven't heard of yet.

    I am little enough assured of my ability to get all the movies I want to do of my OWN material without taking on the added stress of worrying about remakes ... still, I'd rather see THE BAD SLEEP WELL retackled than the more famous, but more tedious, HIGH AND LOW (Richard Price adapted that, and Scorsese was kicking it around YEARS ago ... well, those two would make something interesting out of it, but the Kurosawa version is too long by half.)

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    posted 06-22-2000 09:04 PM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    What's the word on the King Kong remake? Wasn't Peter Jackson supposed to be on as director?

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    posted 06-22-2000 09:16 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    The Peter Jackson KONG was on the boards years ago. He did write a script with his partner Frances Walsh -- available at various free script websites -- but then Jackson's THE FRIGHTENERS was a boxoffice disappointment, so Universal pulled the plug on his KONG. Now that he's doing the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy, I kind of doubt he'll be up for a project like KONG again anytime soon. Additionally, the relative boxoffice failures of GODZILLA (1998) and MIGHTY JOE YOUNG (1998, a movie I LOVED, by the way) means that the major studios will be shy about big-creature pics for a while (unless they're cast in a format the average moron will understand, e.g. DEEP BLUE SEA -- no offense meant to anyone who liked DEEP BLUE SEA, I didn't think it was awful, exactly ... it merely put me to sleep, and it's safer than Nytol ...)

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    posted 06-22-2000 09:48 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    I liked the movie ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST,
    but I would like to see a remake that was more faithful to the novel.
    That may be rather difficult as the Indian is the main character and quite
    insane during the first third of the novel. He is the primary character who
    gradually becomes sane through the valiant heroics of McMurphy.
    The novel is a strong commentary on the emasculation of the Northwest
    Indians and on other individuals who don’t conform to what society
    calls “normal.” The mental institution is a symbol for the Establishment
    that wants to “fix” individuality regardless of the methods. I would
    love to see those themes developed. After seeing Magnolia, I think
    Cruise could “grin” Nurse Ratched into submission. Mel Gibson would
    also be fine. Nurse Ratched was attractive in a “porcelain” way and had
    a voluptuous figure. Sharon Stone showed her evil abilities in Casino and
    could play against type. I’d hire Jerry Goldsmith or James Newton
    Howard for the score.

    I’d also like to see at least one DECENT version of LORD OF THE FLIES.
    The first British film was too tame. The last one was IMHO horrid.

    This isn’t a remake, but I hope Hollywood makes COLD MOUNTAIN,
    a wonderful, award winning novel about a man’s journey back to the
    North after the Civil War. Stunning book that would make a great movie.


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    posted 06-22-2000 10:27 PM PT (US)     

     Matthew
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    Someday I would love to see a bunch of those 1970's disaster flicks remade.

    Such as:

    Airport
    Earthquake
    The Towering Inferno
    The Poseidon Adventure

    And maybe even one of my all-time favorite bad movies.The late Paul Bartel's cult classic Death Race 2000,with a young Sylvester Stallone.


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    posted 06-23-2000 12:07 AM PT (US)     

     Sean Bires
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    I'd remake "SPHERE". The problem with the initial movie was just overall hollowness. The concepts were there, but they just didn't mean anything, since too much was cut out of the book.

    Besides, it'd be fun to direct a film in such a claustrophobic setting anyway.

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    posted 06-23-2000 02:36 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Hey, dantoris, North by Northwest is perfect the way it is! James Stewart wanted the title role, but Hitchcock chose Cary Grant, and I don't think you can replace him.

    I'd be curious to see a modern version of Metropolis. I think CGI would work very well for this movie, and it could have a great score, too.

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    posted 06-23-2000 06:36 AM PT (US)     

     Mary
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    Ooh! Someone mentioned Airport. I'd love to see a remake of that one. There's so much they could do with it...

    Mary

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    posted 06-23-2000 08:59 AM PT (US)     

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    I guess a remake of AIRPORT *could* be interesting. I prefer the increasingly insane sequels to it, though. AIRPORT 77 was relatively calm compared to AIRPORT 75, but AIRPORT 80 blew them both away. (The evil Robert Wagner. David Warner as a flight navigator -- would YOU trust him in that job? Mercedes McCambridge as a Russian gymnastics coach intoning "Get your strange places into some clothes!" Avery Schreiber as the other Russian coach. And so on. You almost felt sorry for them: they assumed that the US WOULD participate at the Moscow Olympics! Oh yes, can't forget about the Concorde doing a double-barrel in midair. God, I want to see this one again.)

    Arthur Hailey wrote the original novel "Airport," but his most deranged novel "Power" (circa 1980) has yet to be filmed. Oh MAN that would be fun, especially if they preserve his bizarro dialogue. (The most hysterical line Hailey wrote cannot be quoted on a family board, I'm afraid.)

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    posted 06-23-2000 10:57 AM PT (US)     

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    Marian - I completely agree, but I would still like to do it. I think it would make a really great film. Like I said, I have nothing against the original, it's one of my all-time favorite films.

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    posted 06-23-2000 01:48 PM PT (US)     

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    dantoris, you're correct about The Little Prince. It's the Antoine De Saint-Exupery story about the boy prince from the planet Asteroid B-612.
    The musical film of the story, made in 1974 by Stanley Donen, has a wonderful song score by Lerner & Loewe, but a rather chintzy production it is. Richard Kiley, Gene Wilder and Bob Fosse are all excellent, but this story could really be a great remake.

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    posted 06-23-2000 04:22 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dantoris:
    Marian - I completely agree, but I would still like to do it. I think it would make a really great film. Like I said, I have nothing against the original, it's one of my all-time favorite films.

    Yeah, I just cannot imagine any remake coming near the original NBNW. I prefer getting the upcoming DVD in August.

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    posted 06-24-2000 07:51 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    I would pump up the action quota with car chases and other explosive effects, but
    bring in some really great writers to pump up the characters, too. I'd like it to be a movie like Lethal Weapon or Die Hard

    dantoris, I agree with the others on this one.
    I think films like Lethal Weapon and Die Hard (as much as I do like them) PALE in comparison to Lehman & Hitchcock's North By Northwest!
    There's nothing in there to BE "pumped up"!
    The dryness of the humor is one of the film's most cherished qualities, and no amount of "pumping" can improve it! It would in fact, DESTROY it!
    Certain movies do cry out to be remade.
    This isn't one of those.

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    posted 06-24-2000 07:30 PM PT (US)     

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    Okay, I realize my mistake now. I didn't mean pump up the characters to make them better than they already are (as they certain already are great characters). What I meant to say was that I would want to keep the characters fresh and life-like, and not lose them among the action, as has happened in many movies.

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    posted 06-24-2000 08:44 PM PT (US)     

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    HRocco,
    I'd also love to see the definitive remake of the "original" Kong (1933) using the state of the art effects of Jurassic Park etc. Although I enjoyed the remake of "Mighty Joe Young" I thought the gorilla was sometimes "too" realistic..."too" much like a real gorilla in the zoo (e.g. Rick Baker in a suit!) and some of the CGI gorillas were obvious in my opinion( it must be difficult to do gorilla fur on CGI). I think what I enjoy about the original gorilla in "Kong" is, because of the technical limitations of the time, the Gorilla actually gained a personality all of its own with its scruffy haggered look. It didn't look like a totally "photo-genic" gorilla but was a kind of "rough and ready approximation" of a gorilla and because of this had an "other worldly...monster-from-the -id" feel about it which made it totally unique and fresh. So I think if a remake was done a "photo realistic" gorilla wouldn't work. I quite liked the fact that they re-designed the creature in "Godzilla" and I think the same needs to be done here. Rick Baker's gorilla costume is so neat and tidy you just want to reach out and stroke/comb his coat like a pet collie. The new Kong would have to be specifically re-designed to look potentially threatening (not like a pet-dog) but also have the capacity to make us sympathetic towards him...quite a task for todays special effects experts. What seemed to be lacking with "Mighty Joe Young" as brilliant as some of the effects were...I kept saying "Oh look at that gorilla... doesn't he look good?... hes bigger than the average gorilla isn't he Boo-Boo? What I want to see is a "monster", a creature that looks like a gorilla but in some way has mutated because of his abnormal growth and "freak" of nature situation...get my picture...not a neat and tidy coat and cute face but a really scarred, haggered, rough and ready creature whose had a tough life and yet really has a heart of gold (but we dont find that out until the final gut-wrenchingly emotional ending). Being a Disney movie as soon as you see "Joe" at the beginning you just know he isn't going to harm anyone really and because of that he is less effective. The remake of "Kong" would have to be at least a 12 certificate maybe even a 15. Cor if only I had the money and facilities to make this movie, I would do such a good job! Also, Id love to see the movie done with a re-recording of Steiner's original music...it still sounds fresh today and you can even hear its influences in Jurassic Park-the Lost World etc! Who would re-record though?...answers on a postcard please to....... Gae NP House of Frankenstein

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    posted 06-25-2000 05:49 AM PT (US)     

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    I'm glad I checked this topic out. MWRuger, it's great to see that someone still remembers L. Frank Baum's original Oz books. I can't be too hard on the film, because it's what got me interested in Oz in the first place back when I was just a youngster, and I also thinks it's a pretty good children's film. However, a lot of Baum's ideas aren't developed very well, or not at all, or incorrectly.

    For instance: "There's no place like home." A lot of snooty know-it-alls claim that this is the lesson to be learned from Baum's book. Not so. Dorothy states this near the beginning of the book, while she's talking to the Scarecrow after rescuing him from his beanpole. The filmmakers obviously wanted Dorothy to be a dynamic character (i.e. one that changes), so they had her come to this realization at the end of the film. Baum's Dorothy, however, is completely static and knows that home is where she belongs from the very beginning.

    They main theme of the book, which is only hinted at in the film, is that all of Dorothy's companions already possess the things that they're hoping to receive from the Wizard. What these characters really lack is self-confidence and the patience necessary to allow these qualities (intelligence, caring, and courage) to develop. The film hints at this idea by having the Scarecrow solve all the problems (such as cutting down the chandelier to trap the Witch's guards) and having the Tin Woodman cry at every opportunity, but there's a serious flaw in the film by presenting the Lion as a genuine coward. He's not a coward in the book--in fact, the message that Baum's trying to send is that courage is the result of being brave no matter how scared you really are.

    As for "Return to Oz," it's a great film that was never given a fair chance.

    One last note: It's always frustrated me that Walt Disney wanted to make "The Wizard of Oz" as his second animated film, after "Snow White." MGM snatched up the rights before he could--those bastards!--but imagine how Oz and its inhabitants would have looked in a film with the beauty of the one Disney made in its place, "Pinocchio."

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    posted 06-25-2000 08:18 AM PT (US)     

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    Gae: You might be interested to know (or already know) that Rick Baker's entire GOAL on MIGHTY JOE YOUNG was to make it look like a real gorilla. You know how he got the job? He came into the office with a midget in a gorilla suit and a remote control device; the midget pretended to be responding to the remote control, and the producers were AMAZED that Baker was able to build something like this. Then the little fellow came out of the suit. Baker's point being that "suitmation" can still be used effectively.

    I agree that there's something to be said for real MONSTER-type monsters -- that, indeed, is what I'm shooting for in my own giant-monster script (additionally, something darker and more violent than anything we've seen in the genre since WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS, although perhaps the recent GAMERA pictures qualify.) The KONG trademark kind of gets in the way of what I want to achieve now.

    Todd: yes, RETURN TO OZ is a neglected masterpiece. But the original WIZARD is so ingrained in people's minds, that -- again that wicked word, "trademark" -- the OZ trademark got in the way.

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    posted 06-25-2000 12:32 PM PT (US)     

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    I love potato chips, and I also love Pringles.

    I love Mighty Joe Young(1949), and I also love Mighty Joe Young(1998).

    It's just like potato chips and Pringles.

    Gae, you are asking for details that are an integral part of the original film to be duplicated in a remake.

    This will never happen.

    When I'm hungry for Pringles, I BUY Pringles...when I'm hungry for potato chips...well, you know.


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