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Topic: ANACONDA, boy did I laugh

HAL 2000
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Saw it on the network last night and, man, did it recall how chessy a flick this was. I saw it in the theatre and somehow it looked more at home on the small screen. The snakes at least didn't look as phoney.And man, were there enough stereotypes to go around or what (only The Mummy surpasses among live action movies of the last few years). The hot and spicy latino female lead, the blond, horny beach bum sound dude and his equally horny chick friend, the angry brutha from the hood, the spoiled artistocratic narrator and the grimy, no good South American Snake hunter (though I have to admit that Jon Voight was deliciously over the top and stole the show).
I imagine the spirit possessing this movie was the same one that lives in 50s B movies. In fact, replace trhe snakes and what do ya got? Creature form The Black Lagoon. Maybe some things are better left as history.
Randy Edelman, who is for my money, one of the most generic film composers working today delivered an appropriate if not anonymous score... full of laughably creepy thingies that seemed to almost whisper, "ooooh, scary". But the snake effects... hm, hm, bwaaa-ha-ha-ha-ha... A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
posted 04-03-2000 09:42 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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I love this movie. It's obviously no Jaws and definately no Tremors, but it sure was fun.Plus, I can sit through any movie that has Kari Wuhrer in shorts like that!
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posted 04-03-2000 10:14 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I'd watch that movie again just for Jon Voight. "It wraps isself around you like your true love ... and den you have de pleasure of feeling your veins EESPLODE!"
posted 04-03-2000 11:06 AM PT (US) 
dex

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You know what's funny? I hardly ever pick up on stereotypes in movies. I'm always too busy watching the movie and enjoying it, getting involved with the story and watching the action. I don't have time to sit there and pick the film apart bit by bit.And The Mummy was THE best film of 1999.
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posted 04-03-2000 11:11 AM PT (US) 
HAL 2000
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That's right. Forget the snakes. Jon Voight was the show here. I loved the lusty smirk he wore through the whole movie.
posted 04-03-2000 11:17 AM PT (US) 
Al

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...and the wink he gave during his last scene. Classic.NP - Goldsmith's "Take a Hard Ride"
posted 04-03-2000 12:19 PM PT (US) 
HAL 2000
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Thanks for the image. I'm still laughing. By the way. They cut that scene out on TV.
posted 04-03-2000 12:23 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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Jon Voight is a truly GREAT actor who didn't mind "slumming" a bit, and he made "Anaconda" worth watching. Since I've always been petrified by large snakes, but also fascinated by them (I LOVE the movie "SSSSSSS!"), it didn't matter to me that the effects were a little too CGI smooth...those snakes creeped me out!
But Voight makes it worth watching again!
posted 04-03-2000 12:33 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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It was like Voight was in his OWN movie half the time ... much like watching Christopher Walken in nearly anything. (I do a damned eerie impression of Christopher Walken, by the way. I had an actual film producer howling at it last week. This augurs well.)I remember going to see ANACONDA on opening day and being STARTLED to see that it was on THREE screens at a big Manhattan theater -- and ALL OF THEM WERE ALREADY SOLD OUT. You'd think it was THE PHANTOM MENACE, for God's sake. As much as the SCREAM films, the success of that one helped religitimize the horror genre for big-screen Hollywood. I just wish more of them were better.
NP: DANTE'S PEAK (OST version as heard on Varese's "Towering Inferno and Other Disaster Classics" -- I'm not fond of either Howard or Frizzell, and wonder which of them actually wrote which parts of the main title, but there's something grim and sleepy about this tune that appeals to me ... I did love the movie, one of the best action pictures of the past several years [isn't that another thread already? Sorry, I'll move over there.])
posted 04-03-2000 12:39 PM PT (US) 
Kris

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Ok, Jon Voight is a good actor, but he couldn't save this movie. It really sucked big time. As for the score, apart from one or two cues it also sucked. Randy Edelman bores me. I have to say that I liked his score to Gettysburg and some parts from Dragonheart. Give him an orchestra and he'll be fine. He just doesn't master synths as well as Zimmer does.Dex: I consider THE MATRIX one of the best movies of the last decade. THE MUMMY is good, but definitley not better than The Matrix.
np Cruel Intentions rejected (Ottman) *****
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posted 04-03-2000 12:39 PM PT (US) 
SBD
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dantoris, you like TREMORS? So do I.NP - The Mask ("Tina")
posted 04-03-2000 02:25 PM PT (US) 
HAL 2000
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Tremors is a modest gem in the genre. Far superior to Anaconda or that crocodile movie that came out a few months ago. Great characters and enthusiastic performances especially from Micahael Gross and Reba McEntire as an artilliary packing survivalist couple. The right balance of characters, creeps, action and humor is hard to hit in this kind of thing ("The Mummy" could have gottenthat perfect mix except that the characters were AWFUL) but Tremors hit the bullseye.
posted 04-03-2000 02:48 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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I love Tremors and, even possibly better than the first, Tremors 2: Aftershocks. You HAVE to love anything with Fred Ward. Make sure you own both on DVD.Now wheres a combo CD with both scores?
posted 04-03-2000 03:00 PM PT (US) 
DjC

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I am sorry to say, but I thought the Mummy was one of the worst movies in years, or at least a second to Anaconda, It is strange that people like such horrible films...ahh well, I will just stick to Magnolia, lol...DjC
posted 04-03-2000 03:26 PM PT (US) 
dex

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"The Matrix" isn't as original as people think. The same idea was explored a couple years earlier in "Menno's Mind", with Bruce Campbell and Bill Campbell, and is a much MUCH better film, though hardly-known.I kept waiting for Keanue Reeves to jump into an air-guitar routine everytime he did his "Bill & Ted" thing, which was pretty much throughout the entire movie. Only in "Speed" does he show potential he has yet to live up to.
posted 04-03-2000 03:27 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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quote:
Originally posted by HAL 2000:
The right balance of characters, creeps, action and humor . . .That's EXACTLY what The Mummy had.
posted 04-03-2000 03:28 PM PT (US) 
Alwin

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Voight definitely put on an interesting performance. The CGI snake effects could have been done better, but the mechanical models were fairly convincing.I'm not sure I remember the exact details, but after Sony saw that the audiences were leaving the theatres laughing, they changed their marketing strategy from that of a horror film to that of a "camp-ish" B-movie. It worked to some degree, as Anaconda scared up... make that laughed up nearly $70 million in what was a great 1997 Blockbuster season.
posted 04-03-2000 03:30 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I'd pick TREMORS over THE MUMMY any second of any day, there was something so genuine and quirky about it. It was directed by Ron Underwood, who manages to pull off the most unlikely material ... he's the type of no-nonsense, straightforward director who gives "workhorse" a good name: neither a self-conscious would-be auteur, nor a loathsome, cynical hack. As well, there's such a warm-hearted undercurrent to everything he does, he'll lay on the tearjerking material with no apparent shame at all, and he'll earn the audience's sentiment as well, because he plays fair. I don't know why his remake of MIGHTY JOE YOUNG, easily one of my favorite movies from 1998, wasn't a bigger hit (one possibility: the Evil Twins' summer release of GODZILLA put everybody off the very concept of giant monsters. The poster was dreadful, too, bespeaking none of the amazement and charm of its central creature. And never mind ARMAGEDDON, Rick Baker's special effects work on that movie deserved the Oscar that year.)I like the fact that Kevin Bacon still sticks up for TREMORS (which really didn't do that well at the boxoffice, though it's done huge business on video, hence the sequel): "Excuse me," he said to a condescending Movieline interviewer, "but that was a VERY good movie." Glad he knows it.
Stephen Sommers, who made THE MUMMY, DEEP RISING and JUNGLE BOOK (1994) is a competent director, but I wish he wouldn't pretend to be a writer, although it would be interesting to see him turn his attention to a straight-out comedy. He DOES have a sense of humor and of timing --it's a bit mechanical, but you sense he's having fun with his stuff -- and I'm frankly just so irritated with this trend of making horror pictures that are really comedies in disguise that I'm hoping he recognizes what his real talents happen to be. (Although realistically, Sommers designed THE MUMMY as an action-adventure; it was Kevin Jarre, who got booted off it, who wanted to make more of a straight-out horror picture. Poor old Kevin Jarre -- no relation to Maurice -- he also got thrown off TOMBSTONE, and his vision of that was much darker as well, although I did love the lunatic quality of what Cosmatos and company did with it.)
Just realized something: Goldsmith was probably always fated to score this MUMMY, since most of the directors who were attached to it tend to favor him. Goldsmith would have scored Jarre's version of TOMBSTONE (or not -- he had to drop out even when another director who likes him, George Cosmatos, wanted to hire him -- that pesky scheduling. Goldsmith referred Broughton to them, as he also did when leaving LOST IN SPACE.) And Goldsmith would surely have scored Joe Dante's version of THE MUMMY as well (one of the older versions that was on the boards, dating back to '92 or so). And these would all have been massively different films and scores, in the end.
NP: THE GHOST AND THE DARKNESS (I wish this album was longer)
posted 04-03-2000 09:10 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Have any idea why Bacon wasn't in Tremors 2? One rumor said it was scheduling conflicts, another said he wasn't interested. Anybody know?And Rocco - Just be thankful it wasn't the Clive Barker version of The Mummy that got made!
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posted 04-03-2000 09:16 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Brrrr ... Clive Barker's MUMMY, I'd forgotten that one ... and I'm grateful indeed I had forgotten .. until you reminded me ... you did mention where you lived, didn't you, dantoris ...I suspect there was basically no role for Kevin Bacon in TREMORS 2 unless they could meet his full price. He IS a professional actor, he DOES have his expenses, and the second movie IS obviously a bit less costly than the first ... and Bacon is the more expensive actor than Ward (although I'm fans of both, and wouldn't say one deserves MORE money than the other -- but that's not how the system works, I'm afraid).
NP: THE RARE BREED (John Williams rerecording courtesy of Silva, as heard on "Close Encounters: The Essential John Williams)
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