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      Anybody going to buy "SW: Episode 1?" (Page 1)

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    Topic:   Anybody going to buy "SW: Episode 1?"

     S Smith
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    As you know, "Star Wars: Episode 1" is being released tomorrow, and I was wondering how many people here were going to buy it.

    I personally have half a mind to boycott it, since it's not being released on DVD (for whatever reason). It just won't be the same on VHS.

    Unless you thought the movie totally sucked, then you won't care.

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    posted 04-03-2000 05:48 PM PT (US)     

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    I'll stick with the first three and my Shadows of the Empire game. I'll have to wait and see if I'll wanna own the next two episodes, but if they're anything like the first, I doubt I'll want them.

    But in the meantime, I'll save my money for Galaxy Quest and End of Days, two much MUCH better films. But that's a whole OTHER thing I don't feel like getting into right now.

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    posted 04-03-2000 05:54 PM PT (US)     

     sabbey
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    Yes I will, actually I already did. Hopefully it should arrive within an few days.

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 04-03-2000 05:59 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    I'm going to rent it tomorrow, just to see if I hate it as much as I did when I saw it in the theatre.
    I loved the first two "Star Wars" films, and thought that "Return Of The Jedi" wasn't up to the quality of them. For me, "The Phantom Menace" represented yet another step down.
    My favorite is still "The Empire Strikes Back".

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    posted 04-03-2000 06:19 PM PT (US)     

     Aaron R. Brown
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    I'm trying to get it tomorrow morning. It is one of my top favorite films now! I loved the score and the film. It was the first film I actually went to the theater to see. Every film I watch, I see it on video.

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    posted 04-03-2000 06:36 PM PT (US)     

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    I pre-ordered mine the day it came available for pre-order. What can I say? I love Star Wars and I love Lucas and I INSIST that Phantom Menace gets better with every viewing ... especially with the right *attitude* (hint, hint.) And ain't nobody gonna bother contradicting me, cuz I can't hear you! neener, neener, neener!

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    posted 04-03-2000 07:16 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    I am! Im getting the widescreen version.

    --Kyp

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    posted 04-03-2000 07:29 PM PT (US)     

     Obi Jok Kenobi
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    Actually, I just got back from getting my copy from the video store!

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    posted 04-03-2000 07:55 PM PT (US)     

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    Actually, buddy of mine says he is going to get me a copy of the Japanese Import Laserdisc. If he does, I'll let you know how it hold up.

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    posted 04-03-2000 08:28 PM PT (US)     

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    You bet your ass I am! I've got a limited Widescreen Collector's Edition set aside for me at work, that comes with a book, a 35mm film strip, and a behind the scenes documentary video for only $28.99 It's limited to supplies in the warehouse and there's only six in the store, hehe.

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    posted 04-03-2000 08:36 PM PT (US)     

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    I liked PHANTOM MENACE better the second time (I only went because my mother wanted to see it), and while I guess it's somewhat better crafted than the disastrous RETURN OF THE JEDI (oh, man, I can feel the brickbats already), I wouldn't care to order either. Strange that the most inconclusive film of the series, EMPIRE (which by its very nature can't so much "end" as it does "stop"), is still my favorite. And of course I adore the first one (well, fourth one, but you know what I mean ... and it's distressing how much denatured Lucas became during that enormous gap between his directing jobs.)

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    posted 04-03-2000 08:38 PM PT (US)     

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    I hated the first three (or last three, depending on how you look at it), so I never even saw TPM. However, I'm sure my kids, who did see it, will want it. They love all of them.

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    posted 04-03-2000 08:45 PM PT (US)     

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    Yeah yeah, I know it's going to take forever... but I'm going to wait for the DVD. I refuse to revert to purchasing VHS cassettes... it would feel wierd.

    Jeron

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    posted 04-03-2000 08:52 PM PT (US)     

     Mark Olivarez
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    I don't even own a VCR anymore. All I have is a DVDplayer and a Laserdisc player. I'm debating on whether to buy the import laserdisc. I know if I end up doing that Lucas will come out and say "due to the excellent sales of the video I've decided to release the movie on DVD in June" and I'll kick myself. Or if I buy a new VCR and the Letterboxed version I figure I will have spent the same amount of money as I would if I bought the import laserdisc. On another note, TPM did not suck. Anyone who HONESTLY thought Lucas would capture the same magic he did with STAR WARS was expecting way too much. It's been 22 years since the man directed a movie. I would expect a little letdown from that. Considering the circumstances I think he did a great job. Yeah JAR JAR was a little annoying, but good grief it's just a movie and it's only the first of three. Remember when STAR WARS came out no one knew it was going to be a hit so he had to wrap it up in one movie. We knew going in to this one there would be 2 more. He made a movie for everyone to enjoy. I didn't buy into all the hype. I kept a level head realizing that its been 22 years and that there may be some letdowns. With that in mind I was not disappointed and neither were the audiences each time I saw the movie. Sorry to ramble, but to say THE END OF DAYS was better? No offense, but to quote Dark Helmet "come on man, what is with you?" or something to that effect. and remember how lame some of the acting was in STAR WARS as well.

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    posted 04-03-2000 09:03 PM PT (US)     

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    At least End of Days had a sense of urgency and menace. In TPM, I kept waiting for the menace to show up. The villain in this film were extremely pour. They do what they were supposed to. Maul looked like a rejected rocker trying out for a spot with Kiss.

    Oh - and End of Days had acting, not boredom.

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    posted 04-03-2000 09:09 PM PT (US)     

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    Waiting for the eventual (hopefully) DVD. I won't buy another movie on video.

    What does get me though is that you have to pay so much more for the widescreen version. Just another bit of proof that Lucas is out for the big bucks.

    Kevin

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    posted 04-03-2000 09:13 PM PT (US)     

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    I will be buying the video. Enjoyed the film very much and love the score!


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    posted 04-03-2000 09:16 PM PT (US)     

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    Lucas said in the an interview that the DVDs of all the Star Wars will most likely be the summer after Episode 3 is released. Hopefully, they be sold separately, so I can buy the ones that are good, the first trilogy.

    So the DVDs WILL be out. You just have to wait size years.

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    posted 04-03-2000 09:19 PM PT (US)     

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    Just so you all know, the WIDESCREEN LIMITED EDITION only 1.5 million were made. Times that by putting it out all over the Us, not a lot of them.

    --Kyp

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    posted 04-03-2000 10:00 PM PT (US)     

     Obi Jok Kenobi
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    Well, here in Australia, both the widescreen and pan and scan cost the same price.

    All videos, whether they are in WS or P&S cost the same, pretty much all the time.

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    posted 04-03-2000 10:43 PM PT (US)     

     Onelegger
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    I pre-ordered mine from Starwars.com and it already arrived!! A whole day early! I've watched it and have decided that there is no way I could have waited half a decade for the DVD. Although I'm sure I will be buying that when it comes out as well.

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    posted 04-03-2000 11:52 PM PT (US)     

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    They don't call it The PHANTOM Menace for nothing! It must've been in another movie.

    All I have to say is (shakes head and spits),
    Shaun

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    posted 04-04-2000 12:05 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:

    Just so you all know, the WIDESCREEN LIMITED EDITION only 1.5 million were made.
    Times that by putting it out all over the Us, not a lot of them.

    --Kyp


    Man that is not that much when you think about it. Would that be just for the U.S. or worldwide?

    BTW, I was wondering which version each of us plan on getting, well if you are going to get one that is.

    Luckily I ordered the widescreen version at CDNOW, with credit and coupons it was about $20 or so. Not any more expensive than the full screen version. Since it was shipped last week, I except it to arrive today or tomorrow. Can't wait.


    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 04-04-2000 03:57 AM PT (US)     

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    Yes,I will be picking up thw widescreen set for this one. Perhaps this film did not live up to the pre-release hype,and that is why so many felt let-down when it came out. I am willing to wait for the next two,to see how they all fit together. I certainly hope that Episode two come out like Empire did for the original. Let us give him a chance, and see what happens. 22 years is a long time,the wourld has turned over many times,and sometimes the director's vison changes with the times.

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    posted 04-04-2000 06:20 AM PT (US)     

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    Of course I will buy it.

    "Surely, TPM wasn't that bad when compared to other recent sci fi films? When socalled connnaiseurs claim that the well known "formulae" of STAR WARS 1977, is somewhat different and altered for this prequel, that the characters weren't as well rounded as in the first one or whatever, that is simply due to the fact that the characters in the first film are so strongly printed into the public mentality, that they have become stereotypes or household references, so to speak."

    From "Star Wars vs. Expectations - The Paradox Menace": http://home.sol.no/~oeyste/starwars.htm

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    posted 04-04-2000 07:27 AM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    My laserdisc copy is shipping saturday so I should have it next week, or the week after. The LD is coming from Japan where it streets on the format this friday.


    The laserdisc features:

    Dolby Digital 6.1 (surround EX) english audio
    Dolby Digital 2.0 (surround) english audio
    THX Certified
    Widescreen 2:35.1 (panavision)
    Japanese subtitles (in the lower widescreen bar)

    Should I complain? You gotta be joking right? Episode 1 in digital sound on my home theatre? POD RACE BABY!!!!!!!


    Incidentally, regardless of the LD coming my way I bagged a free copy of the VHS yesterday (widescreen/PAL) and it was fine in my eyes. My take is, if you know the faults of VHS you'll watch without a complaint as it is a good enough transfer with a pretty good sound mix.

    I think that 'Widescreen Collectors Edition' is a US only thing. $40 fior a video? lol. Over here it's £12.99 for the widcescreen tape, which just contains the movie. The evil pan and scan is £10.99.

    Dan (UK)

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    posted 04-04-2000 07:27 AM PT (US)     

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    THE PHANTOM MENACE was brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! If you watch this film with the mind set that it is the FIRST film you'll see just how brilliant it is. I pre-ordered my letterboxed copy of the film the day it was announced! Wedge is correct. It gets better with every viewing.

    Now quit whining about the lack of a DVD. Just deal with it.

    (PS- Don't worry about the Midi-Chlorian issue. It will be resolved in the next two chapters. Trust me...we aint seen nothing yet.)

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    posted 04-04-2000 08:49 AM PT (US)     

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    I'm don't mean to keep beating a dead horse, but as flawed as Phantom Menace was, it was not nearly as bad as End of Days. Aside from Gabriel Byrne, most of the acting was way below par even for that type of film. And "Christine York--"Christ in New York?" I'm sorry, but that's stretching it. At least John Debney's score was serviceable, but the movie was not even that.
    I did buy The Phantom Menace, it just arrived today, and it is the widescreen version. Marred as it is by some factors, it was still was of last summer's better movies.

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    posted 04-04-2000 10:30 AM PT (US)     

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    well, I went ahead and ordered the widescreen version for several reasons:

    1. I just like widescreens better
    2. I have the SE trilogy in widescreen, so I continue the same trend.
    3. I don't want to wait 5 or 6 more years for them all to be on DVD.


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    posted 04-04-2000 10:57 AM PT (US)     

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    I have a video copy of THE PHANTOM MENACE sitting right here on my desk (no, I did not buy it... I don't buy videos at all... I would buy DVDs only). I have pretty much not commented the whole time on ANYTHING Phantom Menace related (though unlike some I thought John Williams' score, which I have not heard apart from the movie, worked well)... maybe I will after I have watched this thing now for a second time.

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    posted 04-04-2000 11:03 AM PT (US)     

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    I enjoyed the movie very much. Most of all, it's an introduction to "Star Wars", not so much based on a story, but on hints of things to come. And the "obvious" story isn't the true story of the movie, either (I'm referring to that simple Darth Maul plot). The REAL story is the beginning of Senator Palpatine's rise to power, and it's actually quite complex. It plays with many aspects that Star Wars fans are familiar with, and obviously, the Darth Maul plot was introduced so as not to bore the "general" audience (I leave it to you to decide if it worked or not).

    Still, I won't buy the VHS tape. I will never again buy a VHS tape, which has bad quality and gets worse with every viewing. I'll just have to be patient enough to wait for the DVD.

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    posted 04-04-2000 12:57 PM PT (US)     

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    Why did Lucas even bother with a prequel trilogy? We all know how everything turns out from the other films and stories referenced in the novels and such. It's such a titanic waste of time and money.

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    posted 04-04-2000 05:15 PM PT (US)     

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    dantoris -

    Have you ever wondered why things were the way they were? I wonder how did Anakin get turned to the dark side.
    Plus the original trilogy by itself appears to be just the story of Luke. When the story of Star Wars is really about Anakin/Vader.
    Personally I'm pumped to see why things turned out as they did.

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    posted 04-04-2000 05:27 PM PT (US)     

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    We already know: Obi-Wan and Anakin where in a fight (possibly a love triangle between them and the Queen), they fought, Anakin fell into a molten pit, emerged with hatred and anger, and converted to the dark side.

    I will admit, however, watching Anakin turn to the dark side should be cool as hell, provide it's done right.

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    posted 04-04-2000 05:30 PM PT (US)     

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    I've never been sure if that story of the molten pit was by Lucas or by some hack novelist. Personally I only take to what is written by Lucas himself.

    Plus isn't senator/emperor palpatine a major factor as well?

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    posted 04-04-2000 05:36 PM PT (US)     

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    dantoris, two thoughts:

    Why is Lucas making prequels and not sequels? From what I understand, it's because he had so many TONS of notes and different script versions of the original (well now it's called part 4, A NEW HOPE) that there was NO WAY he'd ever cram them all into the same movie -- and remember, he never dreamed at the time he'd get to make more than one of these. So THE PHANTOM MENACE and the next two comprise a lot of the stuff he wanted to put in before, and could not. Once A NEW HOPE became the most successful movie of all time, it took on a life of its own ... Lucas incorporated a lot of different ideas from the old drafts into EMPIRE and JEDI, but obviously he's had a lot else on his mind.

    I'm personally underwhelmed by THE PHANTOM MENACE, but I do wonder what the next two are going to look like, and what the plot trajectories may turn out to be. (I do find it faintly disturbing that the whole thrust of THE PHANTOM MENACE seems to be "how much can I fit digitally into this frame?" -- it was amusing and even enchanting when Lucas refurbished the Original Trilogy, although he changed too much for my liking, but he also added some lovely stuff. However, he was adding to great works, at least in the case of A NEW HOPE and EMPIRE. Now ... it's too early to say.)

    dantoris, my other main thought: Lucas makes it almost TOO obvious throughout THE PHANTOM MENACE that there's something wrong with Annakinn to begin with ... he's not going to become possessed by the Dark Side LATER, it's already part of what he is NOW. (I still think that the "immaculate conception" subplot is going to turn out to be a red herring -- it ONLY makes sense that PALPATINE is Annnakinnn's father, in the same way that Annnnnnnnakinnnnnnnnn (how many n's in that? not sure -- or are there extra k's?) turns out to be Luke's father. I don't see any other direction it can possibly go.)

    I did like it that Lucas brought back Ian McDiarmid to play Palpatine. (Clive Revill played him during that brief bit in EMPIRE when Vader talks to him over subspace frequency, or whatever it was.)

    NP: nothing, but I think I'll go dig up my original STAR WARS largely complete box set (circa 1992 or 1993?)

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    posted 04-04-2000 05:51 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm getting the wide screen version.

    Jeron,
    but you are wierd.


    Scott

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    posted 04-04-2000 06:11 PM PT (US)     

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    Rocco: It's spelled Anakin. And yes, McDiarmid is a fantastic actor, both stage and screen, and I'd LOVE to see more of him in film ... especially since my budget can ill-afford frequent trips to London. I did enjoy his small role in "Sleepy Hollow."

    Other than that, I agree with you: it's too early to tell much of anything. Phantom Menace had its faults, it's true, but what can I say? Call me an optimist. And call me a sucker for Lucas's particularly grandiose style. I await the remaining sequels with trembling anticipation.

    And on a related note, those of you who want to know what happened AFTER "Return of the Jedi" but don't want to wade through mountains of books and comics, "Star Wars: The Essential Chronology" was released in bookstores across the nation today. Wonderfully retold and beautifully illustrated, this oversized paperback is a must-have for the die-hard, or even casual Star Wars fan.

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    posted 04-04-2000 06:44 PM PT (US)     

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    That is, for those of you who want to wade through the apocryphal tripe that was churned out by other authors regarding their own versions of what happened after "Return of the Jedi." Knock yourselves out.

    Sorry--I'm a purist, and too many chefs ruin the stew. The Star Wars saga really ends with "Jedi." That's the full myth cycle: Rise, Fall, Redemption, Restoration. There's no need for those "Young Jedi" adventures, or those "Dark Empire" clone battles, or the "Vector Prime" death of Chewbacca....it is only another way to fulfill an erroneous public demand. More is not always better--sometimes it is just more.

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    posted 04-04-2000 07:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Wedge, I'll assume you're familar with Mr. McDiarmid's small role in DRAGONSLAYER ("Foul BEAST ... !") Otherwise, you don't need my encouragement to check out the IMDb. (I wish I could go to London myself, but then I wish I could afford just to leave the house more often.)

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