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Obi_Wan_Jacobi unregistered	Did anyone else see the Mission to mars trailer that had the music from Vangelis's 1492 in it?
posted 12-06-1999 02:33 PM PT (US)

kyle42 unregistered	Yes, terrible trailer. This movie is so obviously ripping off of 2001 with the white room and the black bar with all the breathing on the soundtrack. DePalma can be great (carrie) and really, really bad (Snake Eyes) this really looks like it will fall under his worse films. Can't necesarily judge the film by its advertising though, it might turn out okay.
posted 12-06-1999 02:45 PM PT (US)

Scott Standard Userer	Ehem...Snake Eyes was a good movie. Scott
posted 12-07-1999 07:39 AM PT (US)

Audacity Standard Userer	Ehem...Snake Eyes was a good idea for a movie with stunning camera shots, but the acting was horrible and the plot died toward the end. Audacity's 2 cents
posted 12-07-1999 08:22 AM PT (US)

Scott Standard Userer	Ehem...ehem... The acting was ok, I wouldn't say horrible. But about the plot dying towards the end, I agree. Ehem.. Scott
posted 12-07-1999 11:44 AM PT (US)

Audacity Standard Userer	Ehem...
posted 12-07-1999 12:04 PM PT (US)

kyle42 unregistered	Snake Eyes had brilliant photography but has one of the worst endings I can think of (next to the ending in North of course). This movie just doesn't work DePalma focused on the shots and therefore we get a movie that rather than the photography helping the characters and story out, the photography is the movie. This is no different than overused SFX. Decent music though!
posted 12-07-1999 03:32 PM PT (US)

Obi_Wan_Jacobi unregistered	wow.........sure got into the whole Vangelis conversation real good.........yup
posted 12-07-1999 07:59 PM PT (US)

Audacity Standard Userer	Obi Wan, I don't think anyone else saw the trailer yet. I will let you know as soon as I do though. Audacity
posted 12-08-1999 04:49 AM PT (US)

Norman McCay Standard Userer	Sorry, OBJ, but when someone tramples all over Snake Eyes and my man Nic Cage, I got problems with that, so no Vangelis elaboration here.... Snake Eyes' ending is not horrible. You want a horrible ending that will just appall you, make your nerves twitch, or an ending that just you just wished you could have done something to, watch CHINATOWN. It just makes you feel very small, and very powerless. The worst thing about it is, the ending is probably the realistic ending to any movie I have ever seen. That says a lot about the screwed-up world we live in. Snake Eyes, on the other hand has a semi-real ending, all the way till the hurricane interference.... One last thing, Ryuichi Sakamoto's score to Snake Eyes is SO UNDERRATED. SO VERY UNDERRATED. Sorry again OBJ for the off topic discussion.
posted 12-08-1999 07:30 AM PT (US)

Scott Standard Userer	Obi, yeah, sorry. Yet, this MovieMusic.com. Knowing what you and I know about this site is that we all are so educated that we tend to drift once in a while of the subject (ok, a lot). Scott
posted 12-08-1999 07:38 AM PT (US)

Ted Standard Userer	In response to the comment about Brian DePalma ripping of 2001: of course he's going to do that. DePalma is well known for his not so subtle references to influencieal films (i.e. the baby carriage scene in The Untouchables and the Battleship Potempkin), but that's just his thing. I just hope the storyline is decent, and so far it looks okay. Just as long as it doesn't end along the lines of Contact. Talk about terrible endings, Contact takes the cake. [This message has been edited by Ted (edited 12-08-99).]
posted 12-08-1999 06:43 PM PT (US)

J. Peter Wolk-Laniewski Standard Userer	Norman: You didn't like Chinatown's ending? Was it not happy enough? I thought it was great. Unhappy endings are supposed to make you feel bad, movies are supposed to evoke emotions. Out of curiosity, would you like to change the endings for films like American History X as well or is it just Chinatown? P.S. -Forget it, Norm, it's Chinatown.
posted 12-08-1999 08:50 PM PT (US)

Norman McCay Standard Userer	J, It wasn't so much that Chinatown's ending was unhappy, but the image of John Huston's character gagging his daughter taking her away from Evelyn was just too much. It says so much about all the crimes in the world that are brushed under the carpet. Yeah, if I could change the ending, it would be just Chinatown. And maybe Three Kings...not sure about that one. American History X...well, I caught the ending before I saw the entire thing, but I thought it ended the only way it could have ended.
posted 12-09-1999 11:29 AM PT (US)

kyle42 unregistered	I thought the ending to American History X was okay, but not great. I would have been fine if it had ended where it did with Furlong 'chaning' but him getting killed was kind of silly. Of course it sent a message but I thought it was inconsistent witht the rest of the film. As for De Palma, he CAN be great as in Carrie which is brilliant but then some of his films have obvious refrences to other films Raising Cain had a shot for shot scene of a car sinking from Psycho. Obsession IS Vertigo (the best movie ever made0. His homages are not subtle they are obvious and annoying. I even liked M:I but not some of his other films.
posted 12-09-1999 05:34 PM PT (US)

Sean Bires Standard Userer	Yeah, I did get that 'wannabe' "vibe" off of the Mission to Mars trailer. I'll keep an eye on that film just in case it gets good reviews. I liked the ending to contact. Everybody else was disappointed because they're expecting aliens. "What? Where be dem damned aliens at jo?" and then they proceed to hate the film for that, almost as if they sat down for two hours and got nothing out of the film. If you hate the Contact ending, really, stop and realize that the film is not about seeing special effect aliens. The film has more themes than simply aliens. And yes, Snake Eyes was dumb. It was half-entertaining but somewhat uninteresting. Wasn't a bad film, but wasn't that good either... And yes, Chinatown was great. [This message has been edited by Sean Bires (edited 13 December 1999).]
posted 12-13-1999 07:08 AM PT (US)

Audacity Standard Userer	Sean, Are you saying that you actually listen to movie critics? There are very few movie critics whose opinions hold any value. Also, The book Contact was absolutely great, the movie didn't do it justice. I liked the movie, but the book explained so much better how the "message" would some day help us Insignificant little earthlings. Audacity
posted 12-13-1999 07:29 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	All right, now about this 2001 ripping off thing. Remember everyone the SCREENWRITTER writes the scrips, the director just puts the words form the paper to the screen. --Crono/Kyp
posted 01-18-2000 07:57 AM PT (US)

Ted Standard Userer	First off... 1. Crono, yes the screenwriter writes the script, but most of the ripping off I saw (which I explained in my previous post) was visual (i.e. the camera angles during the out side shots of the ship, the inside of the ship, the spacesuits, ect.) FROM WHAT I SAW, I have to bet most of that was DePalma's doing. 2. Oh, and if you want to talk about rip offs of 2001, look no further than STAR TREK and Spock's "journey." 2001 in so beyond STAR TREK that it isn't funny...No offense to any Star Trek fans, since I was a big fan and do NOT hate the series or movies in any way. 3. I would like to change my ruling on the worst ending ever. I recently saw CONTACT again and change my mind. I saw it when it first came out when I was 13 and expected aliens to bounce off the wall...now I get the point. I am sorry... [This message has been edited by Ted (edited 21 January 2000).]
posted 01-21-2000 06:03 PM PT (US)

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