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Ken S Standard Userer	I can't believe it and I will not believe it! The best movie score in ages - Giacchino's UP - and apparently not available as a normal CD. Doesn't Disney think at all about those people who can not / or will not load music from internet? Makes me soooo angry. KEN Well, at least Giacchino's Star Trek is available... [Message edited by Ken S on 10-26-2009]
posted 10-26-2009 02:15 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Yep. Way old news. And it's way cheaper for Disney to release it digitally then on CD. which sucks for those who like physical product. But, it's also not a Hannah Montana CD that'll sell millions. I'd expect to see this trend from now on. --Bri [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 10-26-2009]
posted 10-26-2009 02:46 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Yup, looks like it will be the same for the new Christmas Carol.
posted 10-26-2009 10:00 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Yeah, I was looking for that the other day Peter and could not find anything on a release. I am guessing it will also suffer the same fate as "Up." Lame, lame. --Brian NP: Up
posted 10-26-2009 10:02 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Digital Release on Nov 3rd. Check out Amazon for clips. http://www.amazon.com/A-Christmas-Carol/dp/B002TVLWXM/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1256576529&sr=1-12 TRT is: 45:28, with all score and one song. --Brian
posted 10-26-2009 11:04 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Anyone else disappointed with the sound quality/mix given to Star Trek? I've read that it was recorded on tape rather than digitally; but this seems odd to me, since there would obviously be some (maybe not technically noticeable) degradation in turning the tape recording into a digital copy for CD release ... Not that I'd ever wanna' buy it on LP or tape, haha, but it still, it doesn't sound up to par, IMO.
posted 10-26-2009 02:16 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Giacchino has said he prefers the warmer sound of tape vs digital. And I believe that's how he's always recorded. It was in the liners of one of his CDs I think. --Bri [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 10-26-2009]
posted 10-26-2009 03:25 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	If "warmer" means what I hear on Trek than I'm not a fan; Speed Racer has a bit of that problem, too, but not as consistently noticeable. Oh well.
posted 10-26-2009 09:17 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	It's just how he chooses to record his stuff. I don't have an issue with it at all. --Brian NP: Holland's Opus
posted 10-27-2009 12:26 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: It's just how he chooses to record his stuff. I don't have an issue with it at all. Of course you don't! Mr. I Like Everything!
posted 10-27-2009 08:58 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Ha! I don't like everything...that's Jeron! --Bri
posted 10-27-2009 10:50 AM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Standard Userer	The issues that you're having with the sound are most likely mixing choices than anything having to do with the recording technology. While there can be degradation when using analog recording methods, it can usually be kept down to a minimum, especially in this day and age. Rather, I tend to find that music engineered by Dan Wallin has a tubby and center-heavy quality to it that I don't find very pleasing. Given how cold this sounds to me, I'm quite glad that it wasn't recorded digitally!!! To veer back on topic: I was really moved by the music of Up. The whole time I was watching the movie, I was thinking that this would have made a great CD. Alas, lossy downloads are the future.
posted 10-27-2009 12:07 PM PT (US)

Erik Woods Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Giacchino has said he prefers the warmer sound of tape vs digital. And I believe that's how he's always recorded. It was in the liners of one of his CDs I think. --Bri If I'm not mistaken this was a one time only thing when recording The Incredibles. -Erik-
posted 10-27-2009 07:48 PM PT (US)

Erik Woods Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Swashbuckler: Rather, I tend to find that music engineered by Dan Wallin has a tubby and center-heavy quality to it that I don't find very pleasing. Given how cold this sounds to me, I'm quite glad that it [b]wasn't recorded digitally!!![/B] Wallin pans the strings to the hard right and left while mixing the rest of the orchestra close to centre. This let's the strings breathe so they don't get drowned out by the rest of the orchestra. But what unfortunately happens is that everything else is all mashed into the centre and it all sounds very muddy in the final mix. Plus, Wallin is lousy at recording percussion. I still prefer Steve Smith's Giacchino recordings for the Medal of Honor series and Secret Weapons Over Normandy. Smith's recording of Tilton's Mercenaries was excellent until Wallin murdered it in the final mix. -Erik-
posted 10-27-2009 07:55 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Erik, I think you're right about "The Incredibles" I think that's where I heard it --Bri NP: Up [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 10-28-2009]
posted 10-28-2009 02:31 AM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	Dude, what is up with all the smilies in that post?
posted 10-28-2009 08:33 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	I wanted to creep you out --Brian
posted 10-29-2009 12:11 AM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Erik Woods: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: [b]Giacchino has said he prefers the warmer sound of tape vs digital. And I believe that's how he's always recorded. It was in the liners of one of his CDs I think. --Bri <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> If I'm not mistaken this was a one time only thing when recording The Incredibles. -Erik-[/B] While he mentions it in the liner notes for The Incredibles because it is period accurate for that film, I think he generally records in analog now. quote: Originally posted by Erik Woods: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Swashbuckler: [b]Rather, I tend to find that music engineered by Dan Wallin has a tubby and center-heavy quality to it that I don't find very pleasing. Given how cold this sounds to me, I'm quite glad that it [b]wasn't recorded digitally!!![/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Wallin pans the strings to the hard right and left while mixing the rest of the orchestra close to centre. This let's the strings breathe so they don't get drowned out by the rest of the orchestra. But what unfortunately happens is that everything else is all mashed into the centre and it all sounds very muddy in the final mix. Plus, Wallin is lousy at recording percussion. I still prefer Steve Smith's Giacchino recordings for the Medal of Honor series and Secret Weapons Over Normandy. Smith's recording of Tilton's Mercenaries was excellent until Wallin murdered it in the final mix. -Erik-[/B] Indeed. If one listens to the original LP and film mix of Star Trek II (skip the GNP Crescendo disc for obvious reasons), or the LP or Southern Cross CD of High Road To China, all engineered by Dan Wallin, will hear a similar soundstage. The FSM remix and the Super Tracks remixes of the respective titles have different sound mixes that are much less center-heavy, and much more satisfying.
posted 10-29-2009 08:30 AM PT (US)

sdtom Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Ken S: I can't believe it and I will not believe it! The best movie score in ages - Giacchino's UP - and apparently not available as a normal CD. Doesn't Disney think at all about those people who can not / or will not load music from internet? Makes me soooo angry. There are a couple of people that I know that are still hanging on to the cassette technology. Since I can do it I've made recordings for him. I'm sure the download only will be the new trend. Thomas KEN Well, at least Giacchino's Star Trek is available... [Message edited by Ken S on 10-26-2009]
posted 10-29-2009 09:31 AM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: I wanted to creep you out Don't worry Brian, you never fail me.
posted 10-29-2009 10:52 AM PT (US)

Erik Woods Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Swashbuckler: <BLOCKQUOTE> *While he mentions it in the liner notes for The Incredibles* because it is period accurate for that film, I think he generally records in analog now.** Some info I just found out. Michael stopped using tape after Ratatouille. -Erik-
posted 11-01-2009 02:15 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Ha! I don't like everything...that's Jeron! I seriously can't believe that's even still a joke.
posted 11-01-2009 11:19 PM PT (US)

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