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Kris Standard Userer	I am really excited about this news: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41712 He was also in the running for the first Iron Man, but back then the studio apparently chose Zimmer's padwan. I remember Debney saying he had already written some great thematic material and has a lot of further ideas. I'm really glad he finally get's to score a big non-comedy movie. Maybe this'll give a well deserved boost to his already successful career.
posted 07-16-2009 04:20 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	No disrespect to John Debney, but I really don't like the inconsistency that comes with changing composers. Sometimes, it works, as with James Horner for Star Trek II. Other times, it cuts out an opporunity for the composer to build up the already written material and grow. I liked Ramin Djawadi's work on Iron Man, and his score got a lot of award recognition and was somewhat successful in spite of the multitude of opinions against it. If this is a locked deal for Debney to do it, that's fine, but it should've been him from the beginning given his relationship to Jon Favreau. I'll even look forward to it, anyway. But now we have no continuity between films score wise, and I'd rather have seen Djawadi continue. Just my pet peeve.
posted 07-16-2009 08:17 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Who cares about inconsistency: Iron Man was a terrible movie and the music even worse--garbage RC techno/pseudo-metal music; who wants more of that s.h.i.t.? Go listen to Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen if you'd like some more. The only inconsistency that bothers me here is John Debney: He rarely does anything to impress and his "style" is hard to pin-point; he doesn't have an identifiable sound--hopefully he can muster some of that inspiration that gave us CutThroat Island!
posted 07-16-2009 09:12 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	So you're saying you didn't like Iron Man? They can't all be Star Wars. Having said that, to comment on another potential super-hero film score, when it comes time to score Green Lantern, I really hope the approach will be more toward the anthemic material brought forth from Superman: The Movie and Batman (1989). My suspicion is that there won't be. If I were scoring that film, and knowing that the Green Lantern is a Corps not unlike the Marines, I would attempt something miltaristic like "Semper Fi". of course, this is where a studio executive would say "Great!" and then on the day of reocrding say "WRONG! YOU'RE FIRED!" [Message edited by Widescreen on 07-16-2009]
posted 07-16-2009 09:46 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Awesome! --Brian
posted 07-16-2009 11:11 AM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	Ehh..while I thought some of Djawadi's output was good and fitting for the movie..I'm virtually certain we'd get more of the same for the next movie. I'm open to hearing what Debney can produce. There's no doubt that he can do some excellent action music (I've recently been listening to The Scorpion King) and he hasn't done too much of the superhero genre so it will be interesting. Let's just hope we don't have anymore "building the suit" montages! [Message edited by Stargate on 07-16-2009]
posted 07-16-2009 12:05 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Widescreen: So you're saying you didn't like Iron Man? They can't all be Star Wars. Right. Also, it's absolutely absurd that they can't come up with a good film and score given the price tag on something like this.
posted 07-16-2009 01:02 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	Iron Man managed a balance between humor, light action, and most importantly--a substantial character arc. And it wasn't cookie-cutter Hero's Journey stuff either. The score itself was more functional than fun, so maybe Debney can improve on that.
posted 07-16-2009 01:35 PM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by sean: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Widescreen: [b]So you're saying you didn't like Iron Man? They can't all be Star Wars. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Right. Also, it's absolutely absurd that they can't come up with a good film and score given the price tag on something like this. [/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> You keep saying Iron Man (film and score) was bad but you haven't yet explained why you think it is. Or is this a sweeping generalization that suggests we should all think the way you do about how entertainment should be? [Message edited by Widescreen on 07-16-2009]
posted 07-16-2009 02:03 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	I thought Djawadi's score was perfectly functional too, though it's not something I would ever purchase. Not entirely comfortable with the guy that wrote "Cutthroat Island" doing Iron Man 2, but I'll withhold any further comment until I see it.
posted 07-16-2009 03:21 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	I'm SO very thrilled with this news. I've no doubt that we'll get the Iron Man score we wanted all along from John.
posted 07-16-2009 06:18 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Standard Userer	I'm a bit disappointed with the news. Ramin's score wasn't great, but it was more than satisfactory, enough to warrant a thought about how he would have developed it further. I think John Debney is an okay composer whose works have been either perfunctory or anonymous, with the exception of the crackling Cutthroat Island. However, I do hope that he'll be able to provide a great sequel score.
posted 07-17-2009 11:31 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Widescreen: Yes. ...So, anyway, I think I wrote what I thought about Iron Man back when it came out; haven't thought about that movie since, so I have nothing to add onto that opinion.
posted 07-17-2009 11:34 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: Not entirely comfortable with the guy that wrote "Cutthroat Island" doing Iron Man 2, but I'll withhold any further comment until I see it. Oh, hell... So, what's wrong with CutThroat Island?
posted 07-17-2009 11:37 AM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: *Oh, hell... So, what's wrong with CutThroat Island?* Nothing's wrong with it; it's an excellently written, classic sort of score...... that just makes your ears and head hurt by the time it's 3/4 over. I haven't seen the film, but I imagine it's a little over the top in context. As such, if Debney writes something even close to that level of bombast and heroics, it's going to make an already somewhat campy and cheesy superhero flick sound a bit preposterous. IMHO, of course.
posted 07-17-2009 01:45 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: Nothing's wrong with it; it's an excellently written, classic sort of score...... that just makes your ears and head hurt by the time it's 3/4 over. I haven't seen the film, but I imagine it's a little over the top in context. Here's a solution that I'm sure ALL score fans can attest to, given how obvious this is, and that's to just listen to the track(s) that interest(s) you: There's no law that says you have to listen to a score from front to back; who has the time for that? Sure, when I first get a score I listen to it the whole way through, but after that I pretty much pick and choose, unless it's something that totally blows my mind.
posted 07-18-2009 03:24 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	I don't think you have anything to worry about. John Debney fans have been waiting for him to write another Cutthroat Island for almost 15 years now and it hasn't happened yet, so chances are you're not going to get that this time, but the man can deliver a solid orchestral score with melody, action, and a sense of fun, so I think he'll do well with Iron Man.
posted 07-19-2009 09:12 AM PT (US)

StarlessWinter Standard Userer	Hmm... Debney's a hit-or-miss guy for me. I really enjoy his scores for Hocus Pocus, Ant Bully, sections of Passion of the Christ, and Dragonfly. But he's not someone I look forward to hearing. We'll see...
posted 07-20-2009 12:48 AM PT (US)

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