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    Topic:   Elfman scoring "T4"

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    quote:
    Originally posted by franz_conrad:
    Not sure what you want me to do now. Delete the post?

    No, don't delete it: Attack! Always be attacking, Michael.


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    posted 01-20-2009 05:28 PM PT (US)     

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    The John Williams piece turned out to be just an arrangement of Copland's "Simple Gifts." Something of a disappointment, since I was looking forward to seeing what idiom he would be writing in and all that.

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    posted 01-20-2009 08:00 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by rkeaveney:
    If a composer is going to make the jump it should be that a TV composer who has proven themselves capable of something other than owning a few sets of samples, loops and plug-in libraries.

    I think you sell the BSG series music short, but that is probably how the suits would look at it.

    Now if only someone had looked at it that way back in the days of Brad Fiedel. His music for the Terminator series suggests that "owning a few sets of samples, loops and plug-in libraries" might not be a bad place from which to score a TERMINATOR film, let alone get the job.

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    posted 01-20-2009 08:54 PM PT (US)     

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    Michael, Ryan is an idiot... He'll sell everything short of Danny Elfman and Brian Tyler. It's a shame he's Canadian.

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    posted 01-21-2009 11:13 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by rkeaveney:
    If a composer is going to make the jump it should be that a TV composer who has proven themselves capable of something other than owning a few sets of samples, loops and plug-in libraries.

    Wow Ryan, that has to be one of the most ignorant comments I've ever heard you say. Bear uses live musicians for pretty much every episode. And I am referring to live guitars (including one of your fave guys, Steve Bartek), live woodwinds, live percussion, and when applicable, live strings.

    You would do yourself a favor by reading Bear's blog, which is pretty detailed in his weekly scoring process.

    Tossing this kind of misinformation out there doesn't make it true.

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    posted 01-22-2009 10:38 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by rkeaveney:
    [b]If a composer is going to make the jump it should be that a TV composer who has proven themselves capable of something other than owning a few sets of samples, loops and plug-in libraries.
    <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Wow Ryan, that has to be one of the most ignorant comments I've ever heard you say. Bear uses live musicians for pretty much every episode. And I am referring to live guitars (including one of your fave guys, Steve Bartek), live woodwinds, live percussion, and when applicable, live strings.

    You would do yourself a favor by reading Bear's blog, which is pretty detailed in his weekly scoring process.

    Tossing this kind of misinformation out there doesn't make it true.[/B]


    I'm aware that there are a handful of live musicians performing on the SARAH CHRONICLES series. But 98% of the music at any given time is out of the box. I'm sure that's a budgetary concession, however, that doesn't change the fact that listening to the T:SCC CD is only slightly more preferable to sitting through The Music of Coldplay Performed by Dental Equipment.

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    posted 01-22-2009 09:14 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by franz_conrad:
    I think you sell the BSG series music short, but that is probably how the suits would look at it.

    Now if only someone had looked at it that way back in the days of Brad Fiedel. His music for the Terminator series suggests that "owning a few sets of samples, loops and plug-in libraries" might not be a bad place from which to score a TERMINATOR film, let alone get the job.


    If the first TERMINATOR hadn't been made for Corman-like dollars perhaps the first score might not have been (appropriately) performed on synths. Maybe we'd have gotten a finely wrought performance by an Italian orchestra drenched in reverb.

    The fact is no matter the subject, no matter the budget, if you are considering a top tier "A" composer, you are not considering Bear McCreary. I'm sure he'll be there at some point, but he's not now. There was a point 20 years ago where you wouldn't consider Danny Elfman for a film like TERMINATOR 4. If you were a director you'd probably as "Hans who?" as well.

    No matter how inventive his loops or plugins, Bear will not be considered a candidate for a film like TERMINATOR 4. That's just the reality of the business.

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    posted 01-22-2009 09:21 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by rkeaveney:
    No matter how inventive his loops or plugins, Bear will not be considered a candidate for a film like TERMINATOR 4. That's just the reality of the business.

    It's also a moot point; Elfman is scoring the film. I look forward to what he does; at the sneak peek WB had last week, I spoke with McG about what he intends to have for his musical vision of the film, and I am sure Elfman will be able to deliver quite effectively.


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    posted 01-23-2009 08:21 PM PT (US)     

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    Has anyone heard the recent news on McG's new film?

    Ryan Keaveney: Ignorance is Bliss. Supposedly it's a sequel to the highest grossing film of 2009, Paul Blart: Mall Cop.

    Hans Zimmer is set to score (despite the talent involved being none-too-pleased).

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    posted 01-23-2009 09:30 PM PT (US)     
     

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