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    Topic:   Harry Potter and the HBP Teaser

     StarlessWinter
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    AOL has the new Harry Potter teaser trailer, and I must say that I'm very impressed by what I see. It's difficult to tell whether it's a marketing thing, but the teaser has a very creepy tone to it (definitely a good thing), the cinematography looks great, and it actually focuses on the story rather than having the occasional teen drama of the books thrown in. The film looks to be a big step up from the last few Potter films.

    What do you guys think?
    http://www.moviefone.com/movie/harry-potter-and-the-half-blood-prince/27063/main

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    posted 07-30-2008 12:04 AM PT (US)     

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    That's a GOOD teaser.

    The final two books are insanely dark. I'm really excited for these movies.

    --Brian

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    posted 07-30-2008 02:54 AM PT (US)     

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    Very good teaser.

    I have hope that this film will be an improvement over Order of the Pheonix, which, while in no ways a bad movie (I thought that most of its problems were editorial), wasn't as strong as the previous two in the series.

    [Message edited by Swashbuckler on 07-30-2008]

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    posted 07-30-2008 05:32 AM PT (US)     

     NeoVoyager
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    I like the singular focus of the trailer quite a lot. It's so much more solemn than any of the previous trailers.

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    posted 07-30-2008 06:24 AM PT (US)     

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    Gary Oldman's character is dead, right?

    Nah, I have no more interest in this series . . . or Hooper's scores.

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    posted 07-30-2008 02:35 PM PT (US)     

     NeoVoyager
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    Come on Andrew... what's not to like about the other adult actors? Thewlis? Spall? Broadbent? RICKMAN!?

    On a related note, does anyone else think the greatest scene in all the Potter movies to date was the four-way conversation between Black, Lupin, Snape, and Pettigrew in the Shrieking Shack in "Prisoner of Azkaban"?? The dialogue is slightly clunky at times, but overall the amassed British acting talent makes that the most amazing scene in the series for me.

    I like this trailer quite a lot. However, it seems they're presenting young Tom Riddle in a fashion almost reminiscent of Damien Thorn here, which wasn't exactly the impression I got when reading the orphanage scene in the book. It does make for tense drama though.

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    posted 07-30-2008 05:37 PM PT (US)     

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    Is Thewlis in this one? Maybe I'll see it, then.

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    posted 07-30-2008 07:51 PM PT (US)     

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    Come to think of it, I'm not sure how much involvement Lupin has in this installment. It's been a year since I read the book, and I can't recall. He's listed in the credits though.

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    posted 07-30-2008 08:06 PM PT (US)     

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    Well if not, I've got Henry Selick's James and the Giant Peach queued up OnDemand. Thewlis' voicework as Earthworm is some very fun stuff . . . as is the film itself. I wish they made childrens' films like this in these days. Hopefully my own children will be treated to something as magical as Selick's films.

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    posted 07-30-2008 09:48 PM PT (US)     

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    NeoVoyager, I agree about the acting during the Shrieking Shack scene, but as an adaptation, all the shock present in the book was taken out of that scene.

    Lupin's character is pretty much over in the films now; he's there for exposition and comfort for more important characters, so Thewlis won't have much to do. It's sad, really, that the great adult actors aren't given much to do, and we are forced to watch Emma Watson wiggle her eyebrows.

    I'm really worried that the film won't live up to the trailer, and I'm pretty sure those fears will be realized because of the teen side of the story in the book. I have only ever mildly enjoyed that aspect of the Harry Potter series, having always latched onto the mystery side. Then again, all my favorite parts of the books have been about the past and therefore have relatively little to do with Harry at all. But of course the filmmakers always downplay the mystery and creepiness in favor of the teen angst of school.

    So at last a teaser comes along that perfectly captures this essence of the story, but anyone expecting the whole film to convey a mood like this will probably be at least somewhat disappointed in the finished product. With Yates always commenting on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince as being the "sex, potions, and rock-and-roll" of the series, and then releasing a great trailer like this, I grow worried.

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    posted 07-31-2008 12:22 AM PT (US)     

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    If anyone's even interested, this film has just been pushed back to a July 2009 release rather than November of this year.

    A decision that probably doesn't affect the average moviegoer, but seeing that the film is already finished, it's being done for purely financial gain. This series has always felt like a wintry tale to me, anyway.

    You should see the backlash on the Harry Potter sites...WOW.

    [Message edited by StarlessWinter on 08-14-2008]

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    posted 08-14-2008 06:17 PM PT (US)     

     NeoVoyager
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    AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!

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    posted 08-14-2008 10:25 PM PT (US)     

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    I hope Brian hasn't been hospitalized because of this news.

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    posted 08-14-2008 11:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Actually Kevin, I'm currently in the ER because I suffered major head trauma when I heard the news and drove my car through the guard rail :-\

    Thanks iPhone for letting me post this!

    --Brian

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    posted 08-15-2008 12:07 PM PT (US)     

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    I nearly fainted when I heard this news.

    Ohhhh maaaah!

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    posted 08-15-2008 03:34 PM PT (US)     

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    Apparently, due to the writers' strike, WB no longer has any big films to release in 2009, and since the Dark Knight has been such a huge hit, the studio doesn't need its usual source of cash (Harry Potter) to bring in the bucks for 2008.

    And since WB doesn't want to look like it's doing poorly in 2009, it is delaying Half-Blood Prince, even though the film is pretty much completed and (in my opinion) might work better as a winter release.

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    posted 08-15-2008 08:27 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by StarlessWinter:
    even though the film is pretty much complete

    ... except for the score, which records next month, and therefore the final sound mix isn't done either.

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    posted 08-16-2008 02:29 AM PT (US)     

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    Right, but that's why I said "pretty much". Either way, the film's stage of completion is sort of irrelevant to the issue, as WB's decision doesn't involve the quality of the film itself - only how well it will do.

    It might be a little less irritating to those looking forward to this film if WB were to work on the film during the delay in order to make it the best it can be. For all we know, it's just going to be sitting there.

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    posted 08-16-2008 09:47 AM PT (US)     

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    Andrew, why are you this thread... Its...

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    posted 08-17-2008 02:11 AM PT (US)     

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    I'm being Brian.

    I could care less about Harry Potter movies . . . bring on Twilight! I need my teenage vampire romance!

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    posted 08-17-2008 08:54 AM PT (US)     

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    LOL, now that movie looks bad LOL. The trailers suck.

    --Brian

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    posted 08-17-2008 12:22 PM PT (US)     

     NeoVoyager
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    We really should all be cursing at and calling Andrew awful names for posting in a thread about something he doesn't like. Come on now, you know you want to.

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    posted 08-17-2008 04:00 PM PT (US)     

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    Seriously, why would you comment on it if you don't really care? I'm not judging, but that just seems like pretension to me. Idk...

    Anyway, the Harry Potter movies aren't exactly great filmmaking. I just enjoy them because I'm a fan of the books, and I think they're great stories (although with a lot of teenage fluff), but they're far from great art.

    Sean, you're doing exactly what you just complained gkgyver was doing in the Dark Knight thread...??

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    posted 08-17-2008 08:39 PM PT (US)     

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    Uh oh Sean and Andrew, looks like you might have an internet mob coming after you! And they want to turn this thread into the same crap The Dark Knight thread turned into!!! AHHHH!!!! RUN!!!!


    Does anyone else think the music from this preview is a lot like the music in The Shining? Or perhaps is the music from The Shining?

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    posted 08-17-2008 08:53 PM PT (US)     

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    No, I don't want to do that at all, and I'm certainly not out to get anyone. I just think it's very hypocritical and sounds like an "I'm too good for these childish movies" type of thing.

    But to each his own, I guess...

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    posted 08-17-2008 09:06 PM PT (US)     

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    Clayton, I'm on the run.

    StarlessWinter: My post isn't being hypocritical at all, it's just a dig at my pal Andrew in order that we create a scenario ripe to make fun of Brian (the favourite pass-time of Jeron, Andrew, and myself).

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    posted 08-17-2008 10:38 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, see, I'm not in the know about any of these things, so it's just what it looks like from my point of view.

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    posted 08-17-2008 11:00 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Uh oh Sean and Andrew, looks like you might have an internet mob coming after you! And they want to turn this thread into the same crap The Dark Knight thread turned into!!! AHHHH!!!! RUN!!!!

    Clayton, I think you may have missed my total sarcasm. *I* have no problem with people posting in threads about scores/composers they don't like, but certain folks here do....... but only when the person in question happens to be their favorite punching bag.

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    Does anyone else think the music from this preview is a lot like the music in The Shining? Or perhaps is the music from The Shining?

    The music in this teaser (aside from the bland stuff early on) is taken from Williams' "Prisoner of Azkaban" score, specifically tracks 4 and 19, "Apparition on the Train" and "The Dementors Converge." It seems there was a good amount of modification done to make it even creepier and heavier on the bass specifically for the teaser, though.

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    posted 08-17-2008 11:04 PM PT (US)     

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    Ahh, but I did really like The Prisoner of Azkaban. Now that's how you make a Harry Potter movie (or you give it to Terry Gilliam, like Rowling intended)! I also think it's one of Johnny T. Williams better scores of the past decade.

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    posted 08-18-2008 09:23 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by NeoVoyager:

    Clayton, I think you may have missed my total sarcasm. *I* have no problem with people posting in threads about scores/composers they don't like, but certain folks here do....... but [b]only when
    the person in question happens to be their favorite punching bag.

    The music in this teaser (aside from the bland stuff early on) is taken from Williams' "Prisoner of Azkaban" score, specifically tracks 4 and 19, "Apparition on the Train" and "The Dementors Converge." It seems there was a good amount of modification done to make it even creepier and heavier on the bass specifically for the teaser, though.

    [Message edited by NeoVoyager on 08-17-2008][/B]


    I think it's more the rudeness of gk's posts that cause the whole fighting issue in the Dark Knight threads. Or even that JoeinAr person who just came back to bash The Dark Knight and get a rise out of some one. Kind of the same thing.

    But is the music really from Azkaban?! That is really weird. I have that score and didn't even pick up on it. It just reminded me of the shining for like 5 seconds in the teaser where the kid sits down... Freaky music...

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    posted 08-18-2008 09:42 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Now that's how you make a Harry Potter movie (or you give it to Terry Gilliam, like Rowling intended)

    Really!? I was not aware of that. That would certainly be interesting.

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    posted 08-18-2008 10:26 AM PT (US)     

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    Neo: Go back and read all or most of what gk writes on this site... He's no punching bag, just a nuisance; he's attempting a 180 and it doesn't jive with the rest of his output. The appearance of JoeinAr to Trent's post is more of the same quality.

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    posted 08-18-2008 12:37 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by NeoVoyager:

    Really!? I was not aware of that. That would [b]certainly be interesting.[/B]


    Yup, Rowling is a fan of his work with Python as well as his other films. Warner never wanted to consider him, given his bad luck with bigger studio-based projects (like Baron Munchausen and [i]The Brothers Grimm, etc.).

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    posted 08-18-2008 03:46 PM PT (US)     
     

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