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Topic: THE BANK JOB soundtrack breaks into Amazon!
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On the Score
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Be sure to tunnel into the Amazon vault for J. Peter Robinson's score to THE BANK JOB next Tuesday. This is truly one of the best heist flicks I've seen, which benefits greatly from Robinson's propulsive score, his second for director Roger Donaldson after the equally superior WORLD'S FASTEST INDIAN. THE BANK JOB is an Amazon to-order cd that'll be ripped for you at:
http://www.amazon.com/ Lionsgate promises some cool soundtracks using this method, which'll get titles out there that otherwise might not escape the vault. Forthcoming are THE FORBIDDEN KINGDOM and THE EYE. Happy Listening, DS [Message edited by PeterK on 07-18-2008]
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posted 07-18-2008 09:33 AM PT (US) ip
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dgoldwas
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THE WORLD'S FASTEST INDIAN was a great film and solid score - I didn't see THE BANK HEIST (yet) but was told it was excellent, and I look forward to checking it and the music out!
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posted 07-18-2008 10:05 AM PT (US) ip
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PeterK
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Originally posted by On the Score:
Lionsgate promises some cool soundtracks using this method, which'll get titles out there that otherwise might not escape the vault. Forthcoming are THE FORBIDDEN KINGDOM and THE EYE.
This really makes me think... what is so great about Amazon.com's CDR factory that an Indie label like Intrada, Varese or La-La-Land couldn't match? The way this quote is worded suggests that there aren't any indie labels out there at all... like Amazon.com is the only option available at all for music to live. Seems like b.s. to me, unless Amazon doesn't have to play by the same rules the indie labels do, which would make the Amazon option very appealing to studios and music owners. Like I said in another thread, the only place to buy music on earth in 2020 will be from Amazon. "the 20/20 plan"!
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posted 07-18-2008 09:42 PM PT (US) ip
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scoreguy16
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Originally posted by PeterK:
This really makes me think... what is so great about Amazon.com's CDR factory that an Indie label like Intrada, Varese or La-La-Land couldn't match? The way this quote is worded suggests that there aren't any indie labels out there at all... like Amazon.com is the only option available at all for music to live. Seems like b.s. to me, unless Amazon doesn't have to play by the same rules the indie labels do, which would make the Amazon option very appealing to studios and music owners.Like I said in another thread, the only place to buy music on earth in 2020 will be from Amazon. "the 20/20 plan"!
You seem to really have it in for Amazon.com. I don't think that's what he meant by what he said though.
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posted 07-20-2008 01:25 PM PT (US) ip
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Justin
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Peter...dude...I shop at Amazon a LOT because their prices are always a bargain. Not to call you out, but they sell Dark Knight Limited Edition for $14.99 and look how much you sell it for? There are many CD's like that which makes the decision for consumers easy. Their shipping is cheap, extremely quick and arrive in good form. I have no complaints about them.
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posted 07-20-2008 02:23 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK
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The Dark Knight limited edition is not exactly an Amazon.com CDR, which is what I am talking about. I'll discuss if you want to get on the same page.....
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posted 07-20-2008 03:01 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK
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...but since you brought it up, I do notice that Amazon holds your order back for 5+ days if you pick their free shipping. That's good service? Spend a $1 and have it ship on the same day at MM.But you are right: people will shop where they like. I have enough happy customers to keep the bills paid, which is the idea. [Message edited by PeterK on 07-20-2008]
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posted 07-20-2008 03:06 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK
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quote:
Originally posted by scoreguy16:
You seem to really have it in for Amazon.com. I don't think that's what he meant by what he said though.
I don't have it in for anyone, not my style. I guess the humor isn't coming through... "20/20" and the year "2020" etc etc. It's meant to be coincidental as to invoke a smile or some kind of lightheartedness... But I did read the quote correctly: "which'll get titles out there that otherwise might not escape the vault" Exactly the point I am addresses up there.
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posted 07-20-2008 03:16 PM PT (US) ip
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scoreguy16
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quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
...but since you brought up some stuff, I do notice that Amazon holds your order back for 5+ days if you pick their free shipping. That's good service? Spend a $1 and have it ship on the same day at MM, and you don't have to ring up $25 in charges as required by Amazon.But you are right: people will shop where they like. I have enough happy customers to keep the bills paid, which is the idea.
Actually, that's not entirely true. Yes, they don't ship your order right away when using Free Shipping. But your policy is order at least 3 new or 3 used CD's and get the normal slower $2.99 shipping rate for $1. Their policy is spend $25 and get the cheaper shipping (not sure how much it is as I am a prime member due to Blu-Ray's and get free 2-Day shipping or $3.99 single item next day shipping) for free. It can be one item, it could be multiple items, as long as it ships from Amazon's store. But I think what Justin was getting at is, at their prices, it's pretty hard not to shop there. And when your order is arriving in one peice and in a timely fashion (which mine always do), there's no reason to complain. To me, Made-To-Order CD-R's are pretty much the same thing as iTunes. Except not compressed so I guess a step above iTunes. Do I prefer pressed CD's? Absolutely. But I wont get that upset over made-to-order CD-R's. And on the plus side, they don't run out of stock. 
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posted 07-20-2008 03:21 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK
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Right... which makes me wonder exactly what kind of licensing they have with the music owners. It's peculiar, and I'd venture to guess their agreements aren't bound by the same conditions that tie up the limited editions we see from FSM and Intrada. Of course, they're different beasts anyway... Amazon's CDRs are from current movies, the indie labels are releasing music from 25+ years ago. What I don't like about it, and this is from my perspective only, is that I can't participate in selling these CDRs because I can't buy them for my store based on the age old wholesale/retail sytem. Seems a little un-American because it limits my ability to compete. But if we're all happy with Amazon.com, screw everyone else. As long as we're happy, right?A technical note on your comparison: 3 used or 3 new CDs would cost you $4.99 normally in the MM store. Buying 3 used CDs through Amazon would cost you $9 standard shipping, and 3 new CDs would cost you $4.96 standard shipping. Let's just say the customers we're after are a little bit different, because they are. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here right now on this forum.... But I would like to sell Armstrong's Hulk CDs for $16.99.
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posted 07-20-2008 03:57 PM PT (US) ip
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scoreguy16
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quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
...but since you brought it up, I do notice that Amazon holds your order back for 5+ days if you pick their free shipping. That's good service? Spend a $1 and have it ship on the same day at MM.But you are right: people will shop where they like. I have enough happy customers to keep the bills paid, which is the idea. [Message edited by PeterK on 07-20-2008]
Weird, I read their policy and they said there's a 3-5 day hold on free shipping orders, not 5+ days. And again, if you spend the $4.96 you're mentioning, they ship the same day, just like here. However, I do not think it's right for a single company to be the only ones able to sell CD-R's of music. But at the same time, what about iTunes exclusive music? Isn't that the same thing pretty much?
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posted 07-20-2008 04:34 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK
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The iTunes exclusive thing doesn't bother me, for two reasons: 1) Lower quality product 2) People who like to buy CDs will probably pass, unless they are of the "I must have everything" mentality. There's so much out there these days, people are starting to seriously decide on things. It used to be that you could buy everything, but not anymore. Too much. I'ved used Amazon's free shipping lately and it took more than 5 days on 2 out of 3 orders. Even if it was a 2 day delay, I don't see how it's "great service." It's average or just less than that. Be honest, though... if Intrada closed their doors, and Varese, and LALALA and every other label, but you could get their stuff through Amazon.com and nowhere else, it's all still good for the consumer, right? If you are an honest customer of movie soundtracks, this hypothetical future of the soundtrack marketplace shouldn't bother you at all.. right? Screen Archives has already sent their FSM stuff to Amazon.com. I'm super thankful for people like Doug Fake at Intrada, LALALA and Varese... these guys are so "old school" they still believe in other retailers. My business counts on this, otherwise there's no point. But that day may come and I'll find something else to do. But in the meantime, back to customer service. A few emails are waiting to keep me busy for a while.
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posted 07-20-2008 07:04 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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How is it "un-American" to sell a product your competition can't? If you're a Volkswagen dealer, chances are no one else is going to be able to sell Jettas.I understand Peter's problem with Amazon's system, but you have to look at it as a positive for the music and it's availability. Previously you could download the score, but now you can actually get a score otherwise unavailable and with artwork. Seeing as so many score nerd/old farts whined about wanting a physical product they could put into their pocket, or liner notes they could read while taking a **** , now they can have their cake and eat it too!
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posted 07-20-2008 11:24 PM PT (US) ip
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TimT
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I prefer a CDR over MP3s if there is no other choice. The only problems I have with them are thier Lifespan, Durabiltity, and Compatibility which are all inferior to factory pressed discs. And since they are all induvisially made I worry about getting a badly burned disc with skips or seek problems. I know the warranty still applies, but who wants to go through any hassle?[Message edited by TimT on 07-20-2008]
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posted 07-20-2008 11:53 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK
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Ryan, exactly, but keep the parallels to this conversation in place: Ford dealers were selling Jettas and now they can't, just like you say. I used to be able to sell soundtrack CDs, and now, exactly because music companies choose to offer their discs directly to Amazon and to none of Amazon's competitors, I can't competitively sell the same CDs. I have no choice.And yeah, the term "un-American" was for you... but notice the phrase "seems a little" before the term. But if you really want to go there, it's actually very American to be so competitive you remove the competition AND make the world a better place. But you knew that. Companies like moviemusic.com deserve no space in the future marketplace. What good does this place offer, at all? See those responses up there? Why does this store exist with comments like those? 
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posted 07-21-2008 12:34 AM PT (US) ip
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tjguitar
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i haven't really had any problems with amazon's free shipping (in fact, i prefer it, it's faster than their more expensive UPS--since UPS doesnt send on weekends.) usually its 2 days after i order max, and on pre-orders, things still arrive close enough to the release date.
I don't know how Peter can still offer the $1 shipping, with at least three postal increases since I started taking advantage of the offer, but I love it.. 
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posted 07-21-2008 12:38 AM PT (US) ip
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