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dgoldwas Standard Userer	But unlike the others... this one was done by a film music website http://www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=256 Enjoy!
posted 07-01-2008 03:23 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Thanks Dan! I'll be reading this at work --Bri [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 07-01-2008]
posted 07-01-2008 03:25 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Great interview. I can't help but read it as if Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are speaking like rednecks, though... lol: quote: JNH on their work and working with Chris Nolan: ...we're going to go through everything we go through, which is very difficult and painful sometimes. But I think we done good. quote: HZ on not playing it safe w/ the Joker: ...I think if this is not provocative, if we aren't fiercely provocative in this here summer blockbuster, we might as well not start. Haha. Were they really talking like that, Dan? Really? I mean... *really*? And then... I can't even touch the whole Hans Zimmer is Catwoman, "see my claws, babe! (talking to JNH (errr... babe??). All hilarity aside, this was a fun interview and showed a lot of character. It's clear that HZ and JNH are incredibly enthusiastic about The Dark Knight. For them to claim it's one of the best films they've ever worked on... well, that just leaves me tickled silly. July 17th can't get here any quicker. [Message edited by Jeron on 07-01-2008]
posted 07-01-2008 04:34 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: And then... I can't even touch the whole Hans Zimmer is Catwoman, "see my claws, babe! (talking to JNH (errr... babe??). I had to re-read that because I thought I read it wrong lol Great interview Dan! Very interesting and I am glad they addressed the whole 2-Note theme thing, but I feel that people STILL will complain about it.
posted 07-01-2008 05:00 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	I like this quote: "JNH: I mean, I'm alwasy scared when I see something that needs two and a half hours of music - and that is really phenomenal." Well, I guess that's confirmation that "The Dark Knight" is going to be at least 2.5 hours long. And as music will not be required at every moment, I'm thinking the rumors of a nearly three hour runtime are probably correct. Yay!
posted 07-01-2008 06:05 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	I heard that in attempt to top himself, Hans Zimmer's proposed theme for Catwoman is 1 and 1/2 notes.
posted 07-01-2008 10:32 PM PT (US)

jb1234 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: Well, I guess that's confirmation that "The Dark Knight" is going to be at least 2.5 hours long. And as music will not be required at every moment, I'm thinking the rumors of a nearly three hour runtime are probably correct. Yay![/B] It's been pretty much confirmed by pre-reviews (and Rotten Tomatoes) that the movie is 2.5 hours long. It's probably wall-to-wall music.
posted 07-02-2008 12:39 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	The movie is 153 minutes long, including credits. It's quite good; nearly wall-to-wall music, but I felt there were actually less noticeable themes in this one than in BATMAN BEGINS. There's definitely some melodies and motifs, and the Joker stuff is creepy as hell, but for those hoping for a balls-out theme, you're gonna be disappointed. Movie is great, though! (And yes, Jeron, the Catwoman exchange is printed verbatim, as well as the "redneck" stuff, as you put it.)
posted 07-02-2008 12:53 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Ryan is so funny, I can't stop laughing, I'm just at ahhh... So funny. So, anyway, this interview is awesome. I still cannot wait for this score!
posted 07-02-2008 01:09 AM PT (US)

StarlessWinter Standard Userer	Has anyone actually heard the Joker theme yet? I'm just curious as to what it sounds like, other than the "razors over harpsichord" description.
posted 07-02-2008 01:36 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by StarlessWinter: Has anyone actually heard the Joker theme yet? I'm just curious as to what it sounds like, other than the "razors over harpsichord" description. Lots of distortion, slowly building. It's actually quite affecting.
posted 07-02-2008 09:01 AM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	From what I've heard, I think it would be more accurate to refer to it as "the Joker soundscape."
posted 07-02-2008 06:22 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	I loved the interview, I've loved what I've heard from the score. Ive got my IMAX tickets for opening night in my hand. 'Nuff said. Thanks Dan.
posted 07-03-2008 07:09 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	You guys have probably already seen this, but if not: The Joker Party Crashing Scene from TDK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w96uPYrkAE No spoilers in this 55 second clip. Just a bit more of Ledger's Joker than we've been able to see before. (And Patrick Leahy again. ) [Message edited by NeoVoyager on 07-04-2008]
posted 07-04-2008 07:41 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	I've zoomed through the score yesterday, and from what I've heard, it seems like a step up from Batman Begins, but the Joker suite as a whole is IMO forgettable. Probably Zimmer's most boring concert suite in years. More impressions later.
posted 07-04-2008 10:45 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by gkgyver: I've zoomed through the score yesterday, and from what I've heard, it seems like a step up from Batman Begins, but the Joker suite as a whole is IMO forgettable. Probably Zimmer's most boring concert suite in years. More impressions later. Just a reminder, Hans doesn't write the suites for "concerts". He writes them to establish musical ideas which can then be honed into the final score. The suite might be "boring" but after seeing the film, it's quite affecting.
posted 07-04-2008 11:09 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Maybe. But it's still a suite that doesn't work as a whole. And there are many many Zimmer suites that are perfectly "suitable" for concerts. Da Vinci Code as a whole, for instance.
posted 07-04-2008 11:31 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	gk, in your opinion, what is a good suite by Hans Zimmer? Other than the aforementioned Da Vinci Code. Neo, that clip is very impressive. Getting my IMAX tickets tanight.
posted 07-04-2008 01:48 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	OH, WOW! Just listened to the score! I love it. A hell of a lot better than Batman Begins. Andrew, this is what we've been waiting for. So far, my brain fell out of my head with "Like A Dog Chasing Cars" -- that's the big Batman theme, I imagine.
posted 07-04-2008 02:57 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	You mean the ascending three notes followed by three descending notes? That's not a theme, that's scales!
posted 07-04-2008 03:17 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: *gk, in your opinion, what is a good suite by Hans Zimmer? Other than the aforementioned Da Vinci Code.* *Neo, that clip is very* impressive. Getting my IMAX tickets tanight.** Yeah, I thought so too. I love Ledger's face when the gentleman says "We aren't intimidated by thugs." HA! I'm getting my tickets today or tomorrow, but not IMAX. The closest IMAX theater is about 90 miles away, and I'm just not willing to drive that far. Speaking of Hans Zimmer suites and such, I just listened to his 2001 "Hannibal" score, and once again found myself very impressed with him. If they hadn't ruined the album with Hopkins' monologues, it would surely be one of my favorite Zimmer scores.
posted 07-04-2008 03:37 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by gkgyver: I've zoomed through the score yesterday, and from what I've heard, it seems like a step up from Batman Begins, but the Joker suite as a whole is IMO forgettable. Probably Zimmer's most boring concert suite in years. More impressions later. G.K., I finally have to ask. How are you getting these scores so in advance?
posted 07-04-2008 03:43 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Probably a torrent site. --Brian
posted 07-04-2008 03:46 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Neo, GK downloads many scores. I just get them at work. Ryan: Very funny. I laughed.
posted 07-04-2008 03:51 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: Yeah, I thought so too. I love Ledger's face when the gentleman says "We aren't intimidated by thugs." HA! The part that had me laughing and doubling over occurs when Ledger says something like, "You know, you remind me of my dad..." HAHA! Wow. Looks like an incredible performance.
posted 07-04-2008 03:54 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: Speaking of Hans Zimmer suites and such, I just listened to his 2001 "Hannibal" score, and once again found myself very impressed with him. If they hadn't ruined the album with Hopkins' monologues, it would surely be one of my favorite Zimmer scores. I think track 9 was the biggest dissapointment on that album. I loved that peice so much and then the pointless dialogue apeard. Maybe, and this is just a thought, if I wanted dialogue over my scores, I'd just watch the movie instead.
posted 07-04-2008 04:45 PM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	quote: G.K., I finally have to ask. How are you getting these scores so in advance? Why "these scores"? What other scores did I get so much earlier? But to answer the question, I didn't download it from a torrent site, it's available on YouTube. It's not like I've actively looked for it, I've tripped over it on a message board. "Like A Dog Chasing Cars" is a nice track, but in the end it's the rudimentary thematic variation you should expect in a sequel. quote: Neo, GK downloads many scores. Yes, like you know sh*t about my collecting habits ... [Message edited by gkgyver on 07-04-2008]
posted 07-04-2008 06:39 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by scoreguy16: I think track 9 was the biggest dissapointment on that album. I loved that peice so much and then the pointless dialogue apeard. Maybe, and this is just a thought, if I wanted dialogue over my scores, I'd just watch the movie instead. Ditto. I dread the moment when the monologue appears. I am particularly fond of "The Burning Heart" as well, but that track is marred just the same. quote: Why "these scores"? What other scores did I get so much earlier? I'm sorry I can't recall the specific score, but I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time. I'm not pointing fingers; I thought you may have had a special relationship as a reviewer or something similar.
posted 07-04-2008 10:19 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Take it easy, GK. I am.
posted 07-05-2008 01:30 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: Ditto. I dread the moment when the monologue appears. I am particularly fond of "The Burning Heart" as well, but that track is marred just the same. I'm so glad my favourite piece, "Virtue," isn't hindered in any way by the Hopkins stuff. Its too bad this release had such a terrible treatment in that respect, like the Gladiator volume 2 thingy... Yikes, I know Zimmer even dislikes that one.
posted 07-05-2008 02:12 AM PT (US)

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