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Pwesty Non-Standard Userer	Hey guys, I just saw over at Amazon that there are two version of the Dark Knight cd coming out? One is the the normal version and the other is The Dark Knight Limited Edition. Does anyone know what going on here? Thanks
posted 06-27-2008 08:00 PM PT (US)

BackToTheFutureFan Standard Userer	http://www.moviemusic.com/mb/Forum1/HTML/016497.html
posted 06-27-2008 09:41 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Another Dark Knight S.E. coming December 9. I don't have details at the moment... no time to go dig. Anyone else?
posted 10-22-2008 10:06 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Wow, could be the complete score. $57.98 MSRP.... http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/darkknight-bonus
posted 10-22-2008 10:09 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	You couldn't PAY ME $59 to listen to the complete score to that film.
posted 10-22-2008 11:00 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	LOL... Now I've learned it's a 2CD set. I think this might be the most expensive 2CD set yet....
posted 10-22-2008 11:10 PM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	I'm really hoping Amazon will drop that price before the release date just like they did for the Indy box set. That is a ridiculous price to pay for a 2-CD set. Hell most of our limited edition 2-CD sets aren't THAT much.
posted 10-23-2008 07:05 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	Okay, it better as good if not better packaging than the deluxe edition from last July, 140 minutes of music from the Dark Knight AND Batman Begins AND a DVD of the live performance by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard from the premiere of the film in Hollywood from last July. Tall order, but the whole point of this release is to raise the awareness of the video release, and more importantly, take advantage of Christmas gift shopping. [Message edited by Widescreen on 10-23-2008]
posted 10-23-2008 07:43 AM PT (US)

Vladimir Standard Userer	So your saying we will get 140 minutes of score?? That would be great, or is this just a guess?
posted 10-23-2008 09:29 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	DVD Audio edition? Like the LOTR sets, the addition of the DVD disk gave it a higher price point. Maybe Disc 1 its an expanded release, and Disc 2 is the complete score in DVD Audio. Warner Bros Records seems to be screwy these days (Transformers, ROTK CE) so, you never know LOL. Just a thought. --Brian NP: Blue Dragon / Nobuo Uematsu [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 10-23-2008]
posted 10-23-2008 03:06 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Amazon's got art...and track titles...but I wonder of their real... http://www.amazon.com/Knight-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack-Special/dp/B001HXG8PK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1224948177&sr=1-4 --Brian
posted 10-25-2008 09:23 AM PT (US)

Vladimir Standard Userer	I see the art work but the titles are the same as the original release?? I'm praying for a complete score!!!
posted 10-25-2008 10:21 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Amazon's got art...and track titles...but I wonder of their real... http://www.amazon.com/Knight-Original-Mo tion-Picture-Soundtrack-Special/dp/B001HXG8PK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1224948177&sr=1-4 --Brian Yeah the artwork says "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" on it, which has me kind of worried. At least I think that's what it says, it's kind of hard to see.
posted 10-25-2008 04:36 PM PT (US)

Alexborn007 Standard Userer	I seem to remember the original press release saying that there would be the regular release, a special edition (the one with the stills and fold out packaging), a LP, and collectors edition to be released at a later date. This is most likely that release, and IIRC they said all releases will feature the same content. I think
posted 10-25-2008 04:47 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Alexborn007: I seem to remember the original press release saying that there would be the regular release, a special edition (the one with the stills and fold out packaging), a LP, and collectors edition to be released at a later date. This is most likely that release, and IIRC they said all releases will feature the same content. I think I remember that too. But I just assumed the special edition was that limited edition that came out already and they were able to get it out on the same day as the regular release. I could be wrong though (and hope I am as well, as I'd LOVE complete to this and would probably be willing to pay the price for it).
posted 10-25-2008 08:33 PM PT (US)

eggerty Non-Standard Userer	Taken directly from www.hans-zimmer.com Release date : 12/09/2008 The Special Edition features the complete score on two CD's plus four bonus remix tracks ; it also contains an 8x8x40 page hardbound book. ------------------------- tracklist : CD1 Why So Serious? (9:14) I'm Not A Hero (6:34) Harvey Two-Face (6:16) Aggressive Expansion (4:35) Always A Catch (1:39) Blood On My Hands (2:16) A Little Push (2:42) Like A Dog Chasing Cars (5:02) I Am The Batman (1:59) And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad (2:28) Agent Of Chaos (6:55) Introduce A Little Anarchy (3:42) Watch The World Burn (3:47) A Dark Knight (16:15) CD2 Bank Robbery (Prologue) Buyer Beware Halfway To Hong Kong Decent Men In An Indecent Time You're Gonna Love Me Chance You Complete Me The Ferries We Are Tonight's Entertainment A Watchful Guardian Why So Serious? (The Crystal Method Remix) Poor Choice Of Words (Paul van Dyk Remix) Gunpowder And Gasoline (Mel Wesson Remix) Rory's First Kiss (Ryeland Allison Remix) So it basically looks like the existing score album with a second CD containing the rest (along with some pointless trancelike remixes ala Pirates) [Message edited by eggerty on 10-26-2008]
posted 10-26-2008 05:42 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Still for 60 bucks? --Brian
posted 10-26-2008 11:07 AM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Still for 60 bucks? --Brian Ya it seems an awful lot to pay for a 2-CD set. I'm hoping the price will come down before December 9th just like it did with the Indy box set. If it drops down to about $30 then I'll consider buying it. I'd still be considering buying it but it would have to wait until January.
posted 10-26-2008 11:26 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Still for 60 bucks? --Brian Holy crap yeah... for that kind of money, you could get the entire Pirates of the Caribbean collection, or a complete score to one of the LOTR movies (which are like 4 disc sets except for the last one which is 5... right?). And they (the LOTR sets) even have DVD-Audio! Not sure $60 is worth the extra disc... Not to mention I hate the stupid remix things they're doing.
posted 10-26-2008 01:44 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Standard Userer	Damn, I'll have to double dip again.
posted 10-26-2008 10:27 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Price doesn't matter to me, I'll buy it no problem, as it's the best score of the year thus far.
posted 10-27-2008 12:07 AM PT (US)

Justin Standard Userer	It really irritates me when companies double dip like this. I mean, if this was all NEW material I wouldn't mind. Taking the disc that was already released and slapping it alongside unreleased music doesn't warrant a $60 price tag. Neither does a 8x8x40 page hardbound book in my opinion.
posted 10-27-2008 11:02 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Not taking the company's side here or anything, I'll pass on this set anyway, but when you buy a complete score, don't you always have to pay for the already existing material? What makes this different (other than the packaging being awfully flattering considering the music)? To me, it would be kind of pointless buying a CD with only unreleased cues - you'd be forced to make a complete edit yourself. Now, I can understand when someone complains that the score isn't arranged chronologically, but that the OST material is there is a given.
posted 10-29-2008 09:20 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	There is the alternate option of going the download route on this- amazon or iTunes. it's still double dipping on the existing material if you buy the whole album, but it certainly would avoid some of the concerns fro mthose who prefer not to buy based on having the existing version.
posted 10-29-2008 09:29 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	But how is it that here, it is double- dipping? When a complete score is released, it is just that, a complete score, you are always going to end up with music you already have. How is this double- dipping, but, for instance, the expanded Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is not? Or Raiders? New release for seven or eight additional minutes? You can argue whether the packaging is really necessary, but not about the content.
posted 10-29-2008 09:55 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	Maybe it would be better to clarify it as double dipping from the perspective of having a consumer who bought the soundtrack very recently. And you're right, the Indiana Jones box set is just as much double-dipping. I'm not sure anyone said it wasn't; regardless, with a downloadable music structure, it is possible to buuy only the tracks you want. Assuming this version will be offered in Amazon or iTunes.
posted 10-29-2008 10:10 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	You do realise that the Indy CDs contain music that people craved for since a good 20 years? With ToD (being only 40 minutes long in the first place) out of print, and the DCC release of Raiders also not being the easiest/cheapest thing to get ahold of, how is that a double dip in even the faintest sense? The point is just, you can't have a complete score without the music from the OST.
posted 10-29-2008 10:18 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	Understood, and I do realize your point on the Indy box set as I am one of those folks that has been waiting for that. As an aside, the box set is not complete as it doesn't contain the march for the book burning parade in The Last Crusade. While valid, the point missed here is that, in the case of The Dark Knight, the first disc contained is a wash as it is already out there unless there is unlreased music on that first disc. It doesn't look like there is, and the value doesn't seem as great when there isn'tmuch more than the second disc of music - they could've just released that on its own as an "Addition Music from" release as has been done with Gladiator and Braveheart. I don't think the full breakdown of what is contained in this set has been full revealed, though.
posted 10-29-2008 11:11 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Widescreen: While valid, the point missed here is that, in the case of The Dark Knight, the first disc contained is a wash as it is already out there unless there is unreleased music on that first disc. There's plenty of music on the present Dark Knight that is not included in the film... The greater part of "Like A Dog Chasing Cars" and whole sections from "Harvey Two-Face" and "A Dark Knight."
posted 10-29-2008 11:18 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	Right, but is that expanded on disc 1 of this set, presenting music we didn't get on the original release?
posted 10-29-2008 01:43 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Widescreen: Right, but is that expanded on disc 1 of this set, presenting music we didn't get on the original release? Probably not. One of the things they could've done is redo the first CD. Aren't some of (most of) the tracks on the original CD suites? They could've redone the 2CD set as like a recording sessions thing instead of giving us the same first CD.
posted 10-29-2008 02:55 PM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	Yeah, and that's my point. I really don't want to be picky, I may just go ahead and get it, but it's also still early yet as I know the intial news of the account still holds that little is known, which means there may be more included...
posted 10-29-2008 04:11 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	This is all very funny... I think it's safe to assume that disc 1 is identical to what's out there (makes total sense) and that disc 2 has what's missing. For the complainers out there: If you don't want another disc 1 than I'm sure it'll be pretty damn easy to just download it for free like gkgyver. Personally, the only missing music that I'm interested in getting is the bank robbery material and the first part of the end credits, since once the Heath Ledger dedication come up the music switches into "A Dark Knight"... And of course, Zimmer's big Batman theme that was apparently a huge part of the film before Zimmer convinced Nolan not to go that route.
posted 11-03-2008 04:25 PM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Download that rubbish? That is tempting, but there is this anger management video I need my bandwidth for.
posted 11-07-2008 05:18 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by gkgyver: Download that rubbish? That is tempting, but there is this anger management video I need my bandwidth for. HAHA!!! I can believe it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA
posted 11-11-2008 12:09 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Ha! I've seen this before. That kid could totally have been in that South Park episode where all the Internet "stars" get together and have a shoot out. LOL. --Brian
posted 11-11-2008 12:12 PM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	I'm not surprised in the least that you find this funny.
posted 11-12-2008 08:13 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Originally posted by gkgyver: I'm not surprised in the least that you find this funny. Yes, it seems your humour is always one step up from everyone on this board, Mr. Sour-Puss. [Message edited by sean on 11-14-2008]
posted 11-14-2008 12:34 PM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Apparently. That surprises me even less.
posted 11-14-2008 09:23 PM PT (US)

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