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BigT1981

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Thought this would be a good thread for all of us.So as the title asks what type of mp3 player do you have, or have had or are going to be getting?
For me I had the Creative Zen Vision: M 30GB model and it was my very first iPod and it lasted me for two and half years which surprised me considering how many times I dropped the sucker.
Well anyways I was on vacation in February when my Zen died on me and I needed a new mp3 player right away or else I would go nuts not being able to listen to film scores. So I got me the iPod Touch 16GB model. It's kind of funny too considering for a long time I was out spoken against iPod's and always showed negativity towards them. Well after getting the iPod Touch I instantly fell in love with it and thought it was an awesome mp3 player.
With it being flash based memory it can take more of a beating when accidentally dropped since there are no moving parts in side like there are in your standard iPod. I also know that Apple recently came out with a 32GB model but $500 was a bit out of my price ranger so I didn't get it.
Anyways I for one don't regret getting the iPod Touch and it's an awesome mp3 player especially when you jailbreak it so you can add games and what ever else you want on there that comes with installer. Don't worry you can always reset your iPod to factory settings if you want to get rid of everything.
So anyways what say you about this subject?
posted 05-25-2008 09:31 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Hey BigT, cool thread!First of all, "the Creative Zen Vision: M 30GB model and it was my very first iPod" is an oxymoron, moron.
Just kidding. But yeah, that's very telling. A lot of people are calling any brand of "mp3 player" simply an "iPod" now. Kinda like "sodas" (any kind) are now "cokes". My very first foray into mp3 players was an mp3 cd-player. You burn your mp3s to a cd-r, and then access them with a cd-player. This was cutting edge technology back in the day (I say this jokingly, as mp3 tech has come A LONG WAY in a very short time). Mp3 cd-player tech was a reasonable and affordable alternative to the king, the 1st generation iPod (2001). Oh, I wanted one so bad... but I was in my first years of college, and it just wasn't an economic possibility. I did however graduate from my mp3 cd player directly to a 3rd generation iPod in 2003. That thing rocked. Then, I upgraded to a 40gb 4th gen (2004), then I bounced up to a 60gb video (!!) 5th gen (2005). Needless to say, I was an iPod addict.
I still have my 5th gen, and it works as good as it did the day I bought it. In fact, the other two do as well... I'm just obsessed with electronics and enjoy the latest innovations. Now, I hardly listen to my iPod, but I do use my 8gb iPhone for a lot of listening (was in line and got mine on launch day, the time last year! ...LOL... so sad). So, definitely Apple-centric here, and I've really never had a problem with any of them. They make good products, and are the leader in the music player race for a reason.
I'll be upgraded to the iPhone 2.0 here in June... that'll be a nice little delayed birthday present for me. I turn 27 tomorrow (5/26).
Insane, I've been posting here (and Movietunes) since I was, gosh... 16 or so.Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 05-25-2008]
posted 05-25-2008 10:15 PM PT (US) 
Stargate

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The only mp3 player I use is a little SanDisk Sansa that I take with me running. This thing, coupled with Sennheiser headphones, produces some of the crispest sounds for such a small device. For all other times, I just use my laptop to play mp3s... uh, unless someone wants to buy me an iPod?
posted 05-25-2008 10:59 PM PT (US) 
NeoVoyager

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1st: iRiver 128 MB (!) flash player (2003)
2nd: iRiver 256 MB flash player (2003)
3rd: iRiver 40 GB HD player (2004)
4th: Apple iPod Photo, 60 GB (2005)
5th: Apple iPod mini, 4 GB (2005)
6th: Apple iPod nano, 4 GB (2006)
7th: Apple iPod nano, 8 GB (2007)Quite a history, eh? And save for the mini (which, as a student, I received for free with a notebook purchase from Apple), which died last year, all have been quite error-free. My favorite is my current one, the 3rd generation iPod nano.
I've been teetering on the edge of purchasing a Touch every since they were updated most recently, but after considerable thought, I think I've permanently decided against it. See, I usually listen with my iPod in my back or jacket pocket, and having to take it out and find the controls on screen to pause the music or adjust the volume would be simply unacceptable (there's also the climate up here, which would necessitate removing gloves in the winter). Finally, I work around others and need to be able to stop whatever I'm listening to as quickly and discreetly as possible quite often.
How do you get around this, Trent (or do you?). Have you found it possible to control anything on the device without looking at it, by memorizing locations on-screen or something?
Edit: Another hesitation is that I might be getting an iPhone 2.0 this year as a work necessity, so in that case I may just end up ditching the iPod all together. Device convergence for the win!

[Message edited by NeoVoyager on 05-25-2008]
posted 05-25-2008 11:29 PM PT (US) 
John Steel

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I have an iAudio X5 30GB. Very reliable mp3 player. It can also play movies in it's own format, I have a few of my favorites on it
It was one of my best purchases of my life.
posted 05-25-2008 11:42 PM PT (US) 
tjguitar

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I still use CD-R's, heh.posted 05-26-2008 12:07 AM PT (US) 
BigT1981

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Jeron,Thanks for catching that error haha I didn't realize I typed iPod at the end of that statement I thought I typed mp3 player.

Anyways I too like many of you started out with a portable CD player but I got tired of hauling all my CD's with me or CD-R copies and wanted to get something more convenient and that would enable me to take my music with me where ever I wanted but at the same time leave my CD's at home.
The only time I'll be using CD-R's any more is to burn the complete/expanded/promo scores I've got on my hard drive and put them in jeweled cases. It's cool to read people's responses on this subject.
Edit: NeoVoyager as far as stopping the music at a moment's notice you can unplug the headphones from the iPod and the music will stop then when you want to resume just plug back in the headphone, take it out of hibernation or lock mode and then resume your music it picks up where it left off.
[Message edited by BigT1981 on 05-26-2008]
posted 05-26-2008 10:21 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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I'm on the same line as Jeron. My first mp3 player was a Rio.Then I moved up a 3G iPod, then a 5th gen and also have an iPhone.
--Brian
posted 05-26-2008 10:41 AM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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I actually don't have an MP3 player or an iPod yet (still using those barbaric CD players), but I have numerous friends who own a iPod Touch and can't stop raving about it. Add to that BigT's recommendation and I think I'll be searching one out.If you don't me asking, what kind of pricing range do they run?
posted 05-26-2008 10:59 AM PT (US) 
BigT1981

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nuts go here on Amazon and you can look at all the different prices.If you do get the touch I recommend getting the one with a software update. Not sure what size you'll need but for me I got the 16GB model as I stated in my original post. That's all I will really need.
posted 05-26-2008 11:34 AM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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Thanks! I'll look into all of this.Maybe my debt-infusing "Rebate" check from George W. Bush could go towards this. I want to get rid of that money as soon as possible.
posted 05-26-2008 11:48 AM PT (US) 
BigT1981

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That would be a good idea.
posted 05-26-2008 12:31 PM PT (US) 
TimT
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I'm currently using a 80GB Zune.
I think its great. It has high quality circutry for great sound quality, and includes above adverage premium inear-budsFM Radio with Broadcast Info displayed (Statation Name/Artist/Song Title)
Supports MP3, WMA, AAC and WMA Lossless formats with gapless playback
Supports WMA, MP4, H.264 video
http://www.zune.net/en-us/products/zune80gb/specs.htmposted 05-26-2008 10:06 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Got an iPod Nano 2nd generation 4gigs about 3 Christmases ago, and it still works fine, and suits my needs because it's small enough for running and big enough for a bunch of albums while I travel.
posted 05-27-2008 07:34 AM PT (US) 
HadrianD

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Currently rocking a 6G 80GB iPod.My first MP3 player was a 4GB Creative MUVO which my mom has now.
My second was a free 2G 2GB NANO that my wife got from her work. She, herself, had a 1G Nano. Unfortunately, mine died this year, which led me to finally make the leap to the 6G 80GB Classic.posted 05-27-2008 08:10 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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My Sony Ericsson K750i phone. Good enough for listening to music while I'm riding my bike (and the only way to react to phone calls at the same time), and occasionally on a train. Other than that, I don't listen to music on the street anyway.I don't see what could make me pay lots of money for properietary and/or DRM-infested devices like iPods and Zunes. I would probably spend money for a device that's reasonably customisable, plays free formats and doesn't rely on proprietary software to function.
posted 05-27-2008 08:35 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
I don't see what could make me pay lots of money for properietary and/or DRM-infested devices like iPods and Zunes. I would probably spend money for a device that's reasonably customisable, plays free formats and doesn't rely on proprietary software to function.Marian, iPods aren't proprietary. iTunes works on both PC and Mac, and there are Linux solutions as well. Additionally, the iPod supports a variety of audio and video/picture formats, including MP3, AAC, AIFF, WAV, M4A, M4P, H.264, MP4, JPEG, and GIF. It also, of course, works with DRM-laden AAC files purchasable via iTunes, but - if you're like me, you'll purchase their higher bit-rate and DRM-free counterparts over at the Amazon.com MP3 store, for those exclusive albums you can't purchase on CD. Everything else I rip, encode, and transfer myself.
Also, if I'm forced to buy something from iTunes music store, I'll simply burn it to a CD-R, re-tag and rip it to a DRM-free format. Voila, problem solved. To scoff at any of this is simply signs of laziness; the ways around DRM are easy and painless, you've just got to have an IQ above 80.
For me, interface and ease-of-use is paramount. Functionality is critical but most mp3 players are gonna do what I want them to do: play mp3s. So, iPod wins as far as the user friendly and pleasure-to-use battle goes.
You've got nothing to fear, Marian. I find it ironic that you label iPods and Zunes as "proprietary" when you use a Sony Ericsson for your portable music player, and Sony is by far the King of the Proprietary Jungle.
Also, if anything, a mp3 player like an iPod holds much greater value than simply acting as a portable device you can pick up and take with you. It protects your investment. Playing a CD puts undue wear and tear on the it. I rest soundly knowing that as soon as I get a new album, I rip it, store it on my Terabyte music repository, and then file it away for safe storage.
If I need a physical copy, the lossless archives serve as a perfect source for reproduction.Jeron
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posted 05-27-2008 09:59 AM PT (US) 
NeoVoyager

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What Jeron said. I wasn't going to bother getting into a discussion of Apple, DRM, and proprietary devices with Marian again.
posted 05-27-2008 10:09 AM PT (US) 
NeoVoyager

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quote:
I rest soundly knowing that as soon as I get a new album, I rip it, store it on my Terabyte music repository, and then file it away for safe storage. If I need a physical copy, the lossless archives serve as a perfect source for reproduction.Yeah, except hard drives have such a high failure rate. I just wouldn't be able to entrust my music collection to a hard drive. Maybe two, though. I bet the likelihood of TWO hard drives dying at the same time is somewhere in the area of one's house burning down and destroying said hard drives along with the original CDs. Two terabyte HDs can get really expensive, though.

posted 05-27-2008 10:14 AM PT (US) 
BigT1981

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Marian's post is the typical iPod stereo type basher. *rolls eyes*
posted 05-27-2008 10:21 AM PT (US) 
SEBULBA

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My first was a Rio MP3 player with a 1 gig SD card. Then the 4gb iPod mini, which I absolutely loved. Just got an 80gb iPod classic last week for my 40th. LOVE it. I've got over 200 soundtracks on there so far, 2 movies, and still have over 50gb left. Guess I need to load more scores.
posted 05-27-2008 10:40 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by NeoVoyager:
Yeah, except hard drives have such a high failure rate. I just wouldn't be able to entrust my music collection to a hard drive. Maybe two, though. I bet the likelihood of TWO hard drives dying at the same time is somewhere in the area of one's house burning down and destroying said hard drives along with the original CDs. Two terabyte HDs can get really expensive, though.
Yeah, I intend to pick up another for a backup. TB's are coming down in price... hard drives are more affordable now than ever, for example, 1 TB Hitachi Deskstar is 300. Not bad, not bad. Of course, the most important thing to keep protected are the original discs themselves. Anything can be re-ripped.
posted 05-27-2008 10:48 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by BigT1981:
Marian's post is the typical iPod stereo type basher. *rolls eyes*Where exactly?
quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
Marian, iPods aren't proprietary. iTunes works on both PC and Mac, and there are Linux solutions as well.iTunes is an Apple program with a secret API. Any other tools for accessing iPods (including every Linux solution) are inofficial, unsupported and rely on figuring out the API - which Apple keeps changing to lock out these programs. To my knowledge (though this might have changed in the meantime), the latest generations of iPods cannot be loaded from Linux (or the earlier non-iTunes tools on Windows/OSX) for this reason.
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Additionally, the iPod supports a variety of audio and video/picture formats, including MP3, AAC, AIFF, WAV, M4A, M4P, H.264, MP4, JPEG, and GIF.MP3 is protected by patents and royalty fees; free MP3 encoders like lame are in a legally grey area at best. From what I recall, AAC is much better in that regard, but (I haven't looked this up so my memory is spotty) there were still a few bits that kept it from being as free as e.g. ogg and flac, as far as I recall.
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It also, of course, works with DRM-laden AAC files purchasable via iTunes,Which, by the way, can only be purchased through iTunes - could anyone imagine Amazon not being accessible through the web browser, but only through a special program you have to install on your system?
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Also, if I'm forced to buy something from iTunes music store, I'll simply burn it to a CD-R, re-tag and rip it to a DRM-free format. Voila, problem solved.Yes, there are ways around it - but should I really have to like a system because its many obstructions can be worked around? And even then - to burn it to a CD-R, I'd still need one of those proprietary DRM solutions (which very likely wouldn't even work on my system).
For more fun regarding DRM, see the recent MSN Music announcement.
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For me, interface and ease-of-use is paramount. Functionality is critical but most mp3 players are gonna do what I want them to do: play mp3s. So, iPod wins as far as the user friendly and pleasure-to-use battle goes.Purely personal opinion in this case, but I never liked the iPod's interface.
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You've got nothing to fear, Marian. I find it ironic that you label iPods and Zunes as "proprietary"They are, Zune even more so than iPod. From what I've read, Zune can't even share files under open licenses like CC without breaking copyright laws (because it automatically subjects them to DRM, which is forbidden by those licenses).
Seriously, I do fear DRM and proprietary software. And the more I learn about it (from everyday use, internet research and the university), the more reason I have.
quote:
when you use a Sony Ericsson for your portable music player, and Sony is by far the King of the Proprietary Jungle.And I'd never buy a Sony phone as an MP3 player. I use it because it turned out to do what I need. Plus, at least in one way it's more open than the iPod: I can put music on it by simply accessing it as a storage device.
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Also, if anything, a mp3 player like an iPod holds much greater value than simply acting as a portable device you can pick up and take with you. It protects your investment. Playing a CD puts undue wear and tear on the it. I rest soundly knowing that as soon as I get a new album, I rip it, store it on my Terabyte music repository, and then file it away for safe storage.
If I need a physical copy, the lossless archives serve as a perfect source for reproduction.Which is why I rip all my music to FLAC files on portable harddisks and play it through Amarok.

posted 05-27-2008 02:20 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Haha. Fair enough. To each his own, I suppose!
It seems as though the details bother you... I frankly could care less about much of what seems to rub you wrong. It's all so transparent and unobtrusive to me... I rarely even think about it. But, alas... this is what makes the world go 'round. 
You're a linux user, right?
posted 05-27-2008 02:48 PM PT (US) 
BigT1981

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I've never understood why people like Linux. I am perfectly happy with Windows XP.
posted 05-27-2008 02:59 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by BigT1981:
I've never understood why people like Linux. I am perfectly happy with Windows XP.Linux is fine. I've got a Windows PC and a Mac Quad Core sitting side by side, linked together with an open source utility called Synergy... one keyboard, one mouse... 3 lcds, 2 on windows, 1 on mac... and I can drag my mouse between all three and only have my control peripherals connected to the PC. I think they all have their pros and cons. I could easily go 100% Mac if I weren't a PC gamer and also didn't need Windows for PC-centric game and audio design tools. Ah well.

posted 05-27-2008 03:07 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by BigT1981:
I've never understood why people like Linux. I am perfectly happy with Windows XP.XP is driving me mad each day at work (though the system as such is much stabler now than when it first came out).
I became a Linux user because I was fed up with Windows. Nowadays, I also use it because I like the interface much better, and because I believe free software is a seriously Good Thing.
Last comment on the whole issue regarding music: I simply really strongly dislike lock-in, especially related to music. And DRM is just a bad idea in every conceivable way. As a professor put it recently: Up to the CD, we used to buy music and actually own the thing we pay for. Nowadays, the industry is trying to make us pay money to rent music - when they shut off the DRM server, the music (at least the way they intend us to have it) expires. That, and they try to force us to use specific devices and software to be able to play it (luckily I don't have a car, so the whole copy protection "CD" issue is completely irrelevant to me personally). Digital music should be "using" music easier (and where the industry has limited control, it is easier), but vendors stop at nothing to actually make it HARDER for us to just listen to the music the way we'd like (unless the way we'd like is also the way they'd like us to).
posted 05-27-2008 04:41 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Ok, a final quick addendum, because I just stumbled upon this talk about DRM given by Cory Doctorow to Microsoft in 2004. It's a lengthy text file, but links to other versions (e.g. PDF) are included. Apple and iTunes are mentioned a couple of times, though I fail to see what made him think he could convince Microsoft to be more free use friendly than Apple...For anyone who might be interested: http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt
posted 05-27-2008 06:08 PM PT (US) 
Ge0rge

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1st - Cowon M5
2nd - Cowon X5[30Gb] that survived 1 battery replacement already, and I'm still happy with it. I use only ogg and flac formats, so if the thing breaks someday, the only option for me on the market is a rockboxed ipod.
posted 05-29-2008 04:08 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
