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Author	Topic: Happy Birthday, Composer Brian Tyler

macuser8403 Standard Userer	In honor of composer Brian Tyler's Birthday, today, May 8, 2008, I thought we could look back on some of his scores and talk about them. I'll start! -Timeline- A great score and one of my favorite Tyler action scores. my favorite tracks are the main titles, battlefield revealed and troops in the fog, for starters. I love the score he has done for: tokyo drift, timeline, avp-r, and so on... i would love to work with him one day, he is amazing.
posted 05-07-2008 11:53 PM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	I like Tyler but have been noticing a lot of his action scoring is the same. Nevertheless, I continue to give him a chance, need to get my hands on Partition.
posted 05-08-2008 06:45 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Greatest Game Ever Played NP: Indy 3
posted 05-08-2008 09:59 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Greatest Game Ever Played Legends of the Greatest Game Ever Played in the Fall
posted 05-08-2008 12:47 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	I've been listening to Rambo a lot lately, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't like it very much. There are some okay action cues, but honestly, all of the music on the disc is 2-dimensional. Lacks depth and I lose interest in rhythmic, predictable strings in a hurry. Unfortunately this has been my experience with most of Brian Tyler's work. Yet, I still continue to give him a chance with each new release. I'm hoping he wakes up one day with a new outlook on composition... but it hasn't happened yet. Even using Goldsmith's themes in Rambo wasn't enough to save him; they felt like more of a crutch, and what's even worse, is that he didn't preserve the themes. He changed the pacing on them, he tried to arrange them in a way that sounded "new" -- and it failed miserably. I was first excited when I discovered that he references "It's a Long Road" and then Jerry's Rambo theme from First Blood Part 2... but, sigh -- it just wasn't enough. It felt like a bastardization, at best. In fact, just hearing it puts me in a bad mood. Please believe me that I've tried to like it, oh-so-hard. I've really, really tried. My best advice would be that if Brian Tyler wants to tap into what Goldsmith did, don't mess around with anything that the master did. Don't change a note. Really analyze it and make sure what you've got is what he had. Even in Tyler's recreation of "It's a Long Road", there were wrong notes. It's frustrating and pretty pathetic. If, after copying Goldsmith's work note for note, you still can't get it right, well... sorry guys. As much as Jerry Goldsmith may have put on the page, I think he put just as much into the music that went undocumented; personal nuance that can only be reproduced by Jerry himself. He knew what he was doing. But hey, Brian - don't take it personally. I'm sure you're a great guy and I know you're passionate about your work. But you're no Jerry Goldsmith, and I'm sure you'd agree. Happy Birthday. Jerry, I miss you so much. Jeron NP: Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend [Message edited by Jeron on 05-08-2008]
posted 05-08-2008 01:26 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Wow, no feeling in that there post! Very well said. I think it reflects the staid "challenge" put on composers by today's bland directors and temp scores, or did I say library music? I think a great percentage of today's films suffer this, but there are still some cool little films being made... which reminds me, I need to start watching a lot more so I can find them. That's the exhausting part... Oh. Happy Birthday BT... wait. The other BT. Yikes. I'd better get out of here...
posted 05-08-2008 02:37 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	He's got some great ones (the final track in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, Star Trek: Enterprise "Regeneration", Timeline, Darkness Falls); some good ones (Frailty, Children of Dune, Terror Tract); and some bad ones (Rambo, the rest of tFatF: TD, AVP: R, Annapolis). Hmmph, sounds like every other composer, ever. Happy birthday anyway. I really enjoyed the chats we had about your "almost" rejected Rambo score. The fans saved that one for you.
posted 05-08-2008 06:36 PM PT (US)

Ge0rge Standard Userer	I have only tFATF and War OSTs in my collection that represents Tyler's creative work, all his other works doesn't stand as a separate albums for me, but I'm waiting for more quality electronic and action score in the future, best of luck, Brian!
posted 05-11-2008 08:21 AM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	My favorites are Timeline, Children of Dune, Annapolis and Partition. Rambo's OK. I still haven't bought it.
posted 05-11-2008 04:29 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	His score for Regeneration on "Enterprise" was above average for the show; definitely a standout among all of the other episodes, with the exception of a few episodes by Velton Ray Bunch, and also Mark McKenzie (who took a very Jerry Goldsmith approach to scoring). My Brian Tyler collection is as follows: Alien vs. Predator: Requiem Annapolis Bubba Ho-Tep Constantine (Badelt / Tyler) Constantine (Tyler only) Darkness Falls Fast and the Furious, The: Tokyo Drift Godsend Greatest Game Ever Played, The Rambo Star Trek Enterprise: Canamar Star Trek Enterprise: Regeneration Terror Tract Timeline Timeline (Expanded) So, it's not as if I haven't (and still don't) give him a chance. I probably own more Bryan Tyler music that people who actually love him, oddly. That said, Tokyo Drift is probably my favorite out of everything. Timeline pales in comparison to what Jerry did.
posted 05-12-2008 09:35 AM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	I'm one of the few I guess who think Brian's TIMELINE is actually better than Jerry's effort. I think they both have merits, but when you melt off all the cheese (the synth ram horn, LEGEND-era electronics) from Jerry's score, you're left with a mid-light reel of recycled Goldsmith ideas.
posted 05-12-2008 01:50 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	You're not alone Ryan. Years ago, when I first got the SACD for Goldsmith's Timeline, I preferred it over the Tyler score. Now? I don't ever listen to the Goldsmith one for the reasons you cite (I was only in the beginning of my Goldsmith collecting then). At least the Tyler score gets a few listens every year from me.
posted 05-12-2008 02:39 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	sigh
posted 05-12-2008 04:31 PM PT (US)

macuser8403 Standard Userer	my collection of mr. tyler's is as follows (official releases only): aliens vs. predator: requiem annapolis the fast and the furious: tokyo drift the greatest game ever played paparazzi timeline war war (complete score)
posted 05-12-2008 06:13 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	macuser, you are missing out on his "epic trilogy", as i call them: timeline, partition and children of dune. All must haves.
posted 05-12-2008 07:51 PM PT (US)

macuser8403 Standard Userer	i have timeline [Message edited by macuser8403 on 05-12-2008]
posted 05-12-2008 08:36 PM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: I'm one of the few I guess who think Brian's TIMELINE is actually better than Jerry's effort. I think they both have merits, but when you melt off all the cheese (the synth ram horn, LEGEND-era electronics) from Jerry's score, you're left with a mid-light reel of recycled Goldsmith ideas. Agreed. I very much enjoyed Tyler's effort over Goldsmith's.
posted 05-12-2008 09:10 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Stargate: Agreed. I very much enjoyed Tyler's effort over Goldsmith's. You guys are a bunch of poo-poo faces. I don't like this thread any more. [Message edited by Jeron on 05-12-2008]
posted 05-12-2008 09:28 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: You guys are a bunch of poo-poo faces. I don't like this thread any more. [Message edited by Jeron on 05-12-2008] You're the original poo face.
posted 05-12-2008 10:12 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: <BLOCKQUOTE> You guys are a bunch of poo-poo faces. I don't like this thread any more. Jeron, I figured you were drunk, on drugs or under emotional duress after being assaulted at an Arby's when you posted your TIMELINE diatribe.
posted 05-12-2008 11:58 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: Jeron, I figured you were drunk, on drugs or under emotional duress after being assaulted at an Arby's when you posted your TIMELINE diatribe. I don't remember what happened. But hey, what diatribe?
posted 05-13-2008 01:32 PM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Stargate: *Nevertheless, I continue to give him a chance, need to get my hands on Partition.* Well, I did it, I got Partition and I'm really enjoying it..very melodic and refreshing from his action stuff. I know it's been compared somewhat negatively to Tyler's Children of Dune so I guess that'll be my next one. Good score, though! **/***
posted 06-07-2008 08:30 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Go for The Greatest Game Ever Played
posted 06-07-2008 11:39 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by nuts_score: You're not alone Ryan. Years ago, when I first got the SACD for Goldsmith's Timeline, I preferred it over the Tyler score. Now? I don't ever listen to the Goldsmith one for the reasons you cite (I was only in the beginning of my Goldsmith collecting then). At least the Tyler score gets a few listens every year from me. HAHA! That's dumb.
posted 06-07-2008 12:05 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Precisely my thinking, Sean!
posted 06-08-2008 08:00 AM PT (US)

pjhackman Standard Userer	How old is the hottie Brian Tyler?
posted 06-08-2008 07:35 PM PT (US)

macuser8403 Standard Userer	36
posted 06-08-2008 08:36 PM PT (US)

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