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gkgyver

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http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00193EGNY/Soundclips.
[Message edited by PeterK on 05-19-2008]
posted 05-07-2008 10:00 AM PT (US) 
NeoVoyager

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Sounds nice. "The Snake Pit" is totally György Ligeti!
posted 05-07-2008 10:08 AM PT (US) 
gkgyver

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Sounds very good so far! I wasn't crazy about the Crystal Skull theme when I played it on my paino, but once again you can see how orchestration works magic!
Am I the only one who notices the similarity of the Skull theme to the five note motif from Close Encounters? Fantastic move, if intentional!"The Adventures Of Mutt" isn't another "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra" (how could it?), but I find it very nice.
posted 05-07-2008 10:54 AM PT (US) 
sean

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I'm impressed! But there's no way in hell that I'm going to look at those track titles.
posted 05-07-2008 11:34 AM PT (US) 
BackToTheFutureFan

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Sounds AMAZING!!! Oh yes, I noticed the connection to the motif in Close Encounters but first off let me say I am pleased to see the use of the raiders march throughout just to keep us grounded. Noticed a few themes coming back which is great! The original nazi theme from raiders and marions theme. When the Adventured of Mutt started playing I knew we had a classical score here and we are right back in the 80s! The Journey to Akator just seems like another fantastic traveling sequence with the map in the background! And did anyone notice the use of the new instrumentation?? I read somewhere he is using this thing called the continuum for the crystal skull theme to add an extra terrestrial effect or something and you can definitely hear it in temple ruins and secret revealed..I hope it's the right instrument but the way williams uses it is very interesting. I like very much what I have heard so far! And my favorite clip of all is Ants! I cannot wait for that scene. Here is a link to a video of the continuum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrmp2EaVChI
posted 05-07-2008 12:22 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Oh no you don't...This is one score I'll be hearing for the first time on-screen. I last did that for Episode 3 and it was worth it.
posted 05-07-2008 01:11 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Sounds terrific. Really excited to hear it in it's entirety. The Adventures of Mutt takes me back to Temple of Doom and Last Crusade.Hearing all of this reminds me of how much charm Williams brings to the franchise. I'd say that if Harrison Ford delivers upwards of half of it, Williams delivers the rest.
It's great to know that Williams can still go to "that place" and that it hasn't been lost with age. He's made us wonder from time to time. The last confirmation we had was with Prisoner of Azkaban.
Welcome back, Johnny!
[Message edited by Jeron on 05-07-2008]
posted 05-07-2008 01:38 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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With "Crystal Skull" being both Spielberg and Williams "back in the saddle" movie since "Munich," the hype here is totally gonna be buzzing.The clips are fantastic, Williams' has pulled out the stops for Indy's latest adventure and I can't wait to hear the rest of it.
--Brian
posted 05-07-2008 02:57 PM PT (US) 
gkgyver

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Slap me right across the face, but doesn't it seem like this film has no real, new, kick*** theme?
If the Skull theme doesn't get a few epic incarnations, I don't see one.
posted 05-07-2008 03:58 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by gkgyver:
Slap me right across the face, but doesn't it seem like this film has no real, new, kick*** theme?
If the Skull theme doesn't get a few epic incarnations, I don't see one.You're trying to figure that out from (19) 30-second clips... not sure you can really make a solid evaluation of a score from 9.5 minutes of music out of a 77 minute album. Can you?
I also doubt the person at Amazon had much control over what he cropped out of each track. Typically that's dictated by a higher being.

posted 05-07-2008 04:23 PM PT (US) 
Quill
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Sounds quite nice...though as was said earlier I hope there is a significant rendition of a new theme. The opportunities for themes (while limited in 30-second clips) such as for the Crystal Skull and Iriana don't do much for me.But Williams' normal flurries of winds, flutes and xylophones sounds as good (and the same) as always.
posted 05-07-2008 05:12 PM PT (US) 
gkgyver

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That's what I was saying.Sure I can't judge the whole album based on those clips, but there's no new, in-your-face, adventurous new main theme as far as we know. Nothing like Marion's Theme, the Ark Theme, Parade Of The Slave Children, Grail theme ... It almost seems as if Williams had chosen to make the Raider's March the central theme of the film. But even Raiders Of The Lost Ark had at least two other major themes (Marion and the Nazis).
Again, no judgement based on those clips, I just hope we don't get as much boring underscore as in the Star Wars prequels.
posted 05-07-2008 05:27 PM PT (US) 
sean

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I heard an interesting motif that hopefully develops into a full blown theme for "The Jungle Chase"... That is a welcome throwback.
posted 05-07-2008 08:38 PM PT (US) 
Tristan

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Totally agree on this. In the "Jungle Chase" track, I think I might hear what might be the theme for Cate and her Russian cronies.I would also agree that the Crystal Skull needs to have a strong stand alone epic theme (and variations) as the artifacts in the previous three films had. But I think Marion's theme should be featured pretty prominently in this film, as well, as it should. What puzzled me thus far in what I heard was the beginning of "The Spell of the Skull" track with the "Tunisia" Nazi Theme. Wonder what that will be referencing...the Ark crate, perhaps?
All in all though, it sounds very classic "Indy" Williams and it will be very exciting to see what the horizon holds for this summer adventure. I think it might just be a-okay.

posted 05-08-2008 07:31 PM PT (US) 
Gae

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What a great taster and it does sound like Classic 80's Williams too. I cant wait to hear the full soundtrack now and no doubt it will be permanently playing on my MP3 player for a good few weeks after purchase!!
Gae
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posted 05-09-2008 04:24 PM PT (US) 
scoreguy16

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quote:
Originally posted by Camillu:
Oh no you don't...This is one score I'll be hearing for the first time on-screen. I last did that for Episode 3 and it was worth it.
I am with you on this one. There's just certain scores you wait for... This one is one of them (so is The Dark Knight IMO).
posted 05-10-2008 01:11 PM PT (US) 
Big Owl
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http://www.exlibris.ch/musik/Film_Soundtrack/Indiana _Jones/
http://www.cede.ch/en/music-cd/frames/frameset.cfm?aobj=703603[Message edited by PeterK on 05-19-2008]
posted 05-14-2008 04:59 PM PT (US) 
gkgyver

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No need for those when you have the whole thing
[Message edited by gkgyver on 05-14-2008]
posted 05-14-2008 06:10 PM PT (US) 
pjhackman

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YESSSS, I heard Marions theme, I was hoping it was in there and I heard it in the final track hopefully it is in other tracks, but hard to tell with those 30 second sound clips. i'm a happy camper now!
posted 05-14-2008 08:50 PM PT (US) 
Gae

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That icon should be thumbs up...not down..dunno how that happened..lol!!!
Got my CD of "Crystal Skull" today!!
Haven't had a chance to listen yet but it's going on my MP3 player immediately. One thing I will say though..Harrison Ford looks incredible in the inset sleeve photos...greyer and gruffer looking sure, but still "Indy"!! He's a kind of modern day Cary Grant, who also looked great in his later years.
Can't wait to see the movie this Thursday..I'm going to a morning screening which will hopefully not be too busy!Gae
[Message edited by Gae on 05-19-2008]
posted 05-19-2008 06:01 AM PT (US) 
webjedi

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We have an extensive review currently up on SoundtrackNet, check it out.
http://www.soundtrack.net/albums/database/?id=4874&page=review
posted 05-20-2008 11:17 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by webjedi:
We have an extensive review currently up on SoundtrackNet, check it out.
http://www.soundtrack.net/albums/database/?id=4874&page=reviewThanks David, nice review.
posted 05-20-2008 11:31 AM PT (US) 
webjedi

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Thank you... I bought the CD first thing this morning before coming to work... ;-)But of course I received my appropriate critiques from Dan :-P
posted 05-20-2008 11:41 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by webjedi:
Thank you... I bought the CD first thing this morning before coming to work... ;-)But of course I received my appropriate critiques from Dan :-P
Of course! Life would not be complete without those.

posted 05-20-2008 12:39 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Just got back from seeing it. Way over-the-top and ridiculous, but in a really good way. The movie was all kinds of great. It's not the end-all-be-all Indiana Jones movie, but it definitely hits the likeable meter somewhere between Raiders and Last Crusade. It's better than Temple of Doom, for sure. All in all it fits well on the shelf with the others.So tempted to say a lot of things, but I don't want to spoil it. A lot of you already have an inkling of where Steven and George are gonna take it. How they take it there is a little different than what I expected, which made it better for me. Thank God they didn't turn Indiana Jones into Daniel Jackson. I don't think I could have handled that.
Also, regarding the score... DAMMIT. THEY DID IT AGAIN. So much great music, even thematic references to The Holy Grail theme from Last Crusade. And the Jungle Chase. Arghhhh! The album version is totally edited and trimmed down to a mere whisper of what it actually is. Sucks monkey balls. I'd love to have an expanded version of this score; there's a ton of great material that simply didn't make it onto the disc. That said, I enjoy the score a lot more now than I did having not seen it *surprise, I know*.
Anyway, the movie is out and the polls are running! What did you think? I'm gonna give it the weekend and then all bets are off; if you haven't seen it by Monday, just don't read any of my posts, as I'll be no-holds-barred about spoilers.
Off you go!
Jeron
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posted 05-22-2008 01:57 PM PT (US) 
Ken S

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As Jeron, I'm disappointed - and NOT!
I heard and saw INDY IV quite belated only a week ago - and dammit, I haven't come out from a movie theatre feeling THIS HAPPY for a long time (last time was with the movie version of Shaiman's and Wittman's HAIRSPRAY). I had so much doubts and no expectations at all for this new INDY, so perhaps that was the reason why the movie took me completely Over The Moon!! For those who long for the 1980's sincere movie magic, KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL brings incredible nostalgia back to the movie screens. And the BEST thing is, that finally we have here an adventure/action movie with TRUE music - energetic, bright, flourishing and wonderfully melodic!
So why am I disappointed? The reason is that although John Williams is a Great Composer, he should leave the soundtrack album producing to someone else. The album is quite normal "Williams album" in presenting concert versions of the main themes and then reprising them in a very-slightly-different End Credits edition. What a waste of precious CD time... As Jeron (and many others for sure) already pointed out, the soundtrack album contains some shameful edits and even more shameful omits. The soundtrack-business of course is not the easiest business in the world, but with this kind of soundtrack producing I can't help wondering why a composer/producer of John Williams' calibre seems not to appreciate us, who want to hear the movie music in its original, unedited form? Of all the great composers, why it is John Williams who manages to produce the lamest representations of his original movie music?
However, thank god the price of the INDY IV soundtrack CD is worth the wonderfully energetic "Mutt" tracks alone!

KENposted 06-18-2008 07:56 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
