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 Richard
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If you're anything like me then you may get a little frustrated that the film music you'd often like to play is not available as sheet music. In an attempt to fix this (for myself, at least) I've been working on some piano transcriptions of film music cues which, as far as I'm aware, are not available as piano arrangements.

The first four pieces I have arranged are all by David Shire, with three coming from The Conversation and one from Zodiac.

I have started work on Toschi's Theme (also from Zodiac), and have also begun transcribing the main titles from Basic Instinct, Prospector's Arrive from There Will Be Blood, and Dana's Theme from Ghostbusters (although I'm not totally convinced this one is, in its entirety, suited to a solo piano form).

I'm not sure when I'll have the opportunity to finish each of these although I hope I can manage to complete them in the next few weeks. After that I'm hoping I'll have time to start looking at the Return to Oz Suite, both themes from Sex and Lucia, music from The Game, the main titles of Raise the Titanic and Cliffhanger, the End Titles from The Fugitive, and possibly some music from All the President's Men.

Anyhow, here are the links for the first four:

GRAYSMITH'S THEME from Zodiac
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/28/1221633/ZODIAC%20-%20GRAYSMITHS%20THEME.pdf


THEME FROM THE CONVERSATION from The Conversation
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/28/1221633/THE%20CONVERSATION %20-%20THEME%20FROM%20THE%20CONVERSATION.pdf


WHATEVER WAS ARRANGED from The Conversation
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/28/1221633/THE%20CONVERSATIONS%20-%2 0WHATEVER%20WAS%20ARRANGED.pdf


ELEVATOR from The Conversation
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/28/1221633/THE%20CONVERSATION%20-%20ELEVATOR.pdf


Enjoy!
Richard

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posted 04-15-2008 09:50 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Very nice! Looking good, and nice music it is too.

I made a piano arrangement of Elliot Goldenthal's "Adagio" from Alien 3 ages ago, it's only on paper but maybe I should get it done in Sibelius. Does it work on piano... well, I actually thought so!

mc

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posted 04-16-2008 12:09 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Gae
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Excellent Richard. What a great idea.

Although I don't know the music to "The Conversation" I'm looking forward to trying these out on the piano sometime.
Similar to this I spend quite a lot of time doing "midis" of Piano Music that are readable in software like Cakewalk and Sibelius. I've recently just finished doing midis for the entire book The Film Noir Collection and I also have several Film Music Piano performances over at my YouTube page

Looking forward to more of these Richard, especially "Raise the Titanic" "Cliffhanger" and "The Fugitive"

Gae

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posted 04-16-2008 05:50 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Great work!!!

I cannot wait to try these out, and hope you finish Toschi's Theme soon. It's a fantastic piano piece by Shire.

Thanks for your efforts!

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posted 04-16-2008 05:56 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Hey Gae,

I loved your “Waltz for Miklos”. I think it sounded a little like a combination of Herrmann AND Rozsa. You could orchestrate that in the style of say Vertigo or Obsession and it would fit right in with either one of those scores.

You should be composing motion picture scores. Your theme is better than anything I’ve heard out of Hollywood in years.

All the best,
Bill


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posted 04-16-2008 08:45 PM PT (US)    ip  

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So I took a couple of hours off today to do the Alien 3 piano arrangement in Sibelius. Feel free to download here:

ALIEN 3: Adagio (Elliot Goldenthal): http://www.moviescoremedia.com/mikaelcarlsson/alien3_adagio.pdf

Cheers,

mc

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posted 04-17-2008 12:45 PM PT (US)    ip  

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You don't happen to own a transcription of "How Can I Remember?" from Sabrina, do you?

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posted 04-17-2008 02:08 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Gae
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Hey Gae,
I loved your “Waltz for Miklos”. I think it sounded a little like a combination of Herrmann AND Rozsa. You could orchestrate that in the style of say Vertigo or Obsession and it would fit right in with either one of those scores.

You should be composing motion picture scores. Your theme is better than anything I’ve heard out of Hollywood in years.

All the best,
Bill


Wow...Thanks Bill. Coming from the likes of yourself that is high praise indeed. I might just keep up the composing now.

Gae


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posted 04-17-2008 03:43 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Brilliant MC!! Looking forward to this one too. You've both done a great job with the manuscript transcription. I dont have Sibelius but it does do the job well. I have a Cakewalk Notation software but it's very laborious and has limitations..i.e. it doesn't open the "Grand Staff" but only individual Clefs.
Have you guys done Midis or MP3 performances of these transcriptions? Maybe we could set up a "Film Music" site specifically for something like this?

Gae

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posted 04-17-2008 03:50 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Gae:
Brilliant MC!! Looking forward to this one too. You've both done a great job with the manuscript transcription. I dont have Sibelius but it does do the job well. I have a Cakewalk Notation software but it's very laborious and has limitations..i.e. it doesn't open the "Grand Staff" but only individual Clefs.
Have you guys done Midis or MP3 performances of these transcriptions? Maybe we could set up a "Film Music" site specifically for something like this?

Gae


As a pianist always lamenting the sore lack of film music available to play, this would be fantastic. I love John Williams as much as the next person, but it'd be great to play something like Murder in the First by Christopher Young, or even some more obscure Goldsmith (any of his love themes from Wind and the Lion, Sand Pebbles, etc.).

The clarity of the arrangements above should certainly be the standard!

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posted 04-17-2008 10:12 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Hi guys,
thanks for the feedback. Hope you're enjoying playing the pieces. I've actually spotted an error in Graysmith's Theme, which although minor, will irk me until I fix the score and upload it again. In the left hand in b.1-3 and various other places, the A on beat 3 needs to be held through beat 4.

You know, Gae, I actually went fishing around on my hard drive for a piece of yours that you sent me several years ago - The Frist Walk . It has stood the test of time! I think you should post it here!

Nice work with the Goldenthal transcription, Mikael. The score looks great! Have you done any other transcriptions?

I think a website for this would be a great idea. Like Alexborn007, as much as I enjoy playing the film music which is available, I'd love to play some of the more obscure scores (which I guess is why I wanted to work on some transcriptions).

As a sidenote, I'd like your opinions on my choice of font for the score markings. I was aiming for a more modern looking score, but I'm not so sure the choice is right for these transcriptions. What do you think? I've used these fonts on the scores of some of my own compositions and I think they work well. Here, however, I am not as convinced.

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posted 04-17-2008 10:48 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Richard:
Nice work with the Goldenthal transcription, Mikael. The score looks great! Have you done any other transcriptions?

Not yet, but it's a lot of fun and good learning experiences. In fact, Murder in the First is on my list of themes I'd like to do. A lot of Chris Young's material would make for good transcriptions, and of course that goes for Jerry Goldsmith too! I actually started on Capricorn One, but more obvious choices would of course be stuff like Rudy, The Russia House, Angie...!

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As a sidenote, I'd like your opinions on my choice of font for the score markings. I was aiming for a more modern looking score, but I'm not so sure the choice is right for these transcriptions. What do you think? I've used these fonts on the scores of some of my own compositions and I think they work well. Here, however, I am not as convinced.

Well, why not? I like it, although I'm a "traditionalist" myself (I'm used the old-fashioned Italian tempo markings and expressions as well).

mc

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posted 04-18-2008 01:59 AM PT (US)    ip  

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I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but is this entirely legal?

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posted 04-18-2008 06:22 AM PT (US)    ip  

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I was wondering about the copyright issues too. The only defences I can think of is that these are "interpretations" of works and not straight copies and also done for educational and non-profit making reasons. Perhaps the copyrighting law doesn't come into force because of this. Does anyone now?
Surely though, if this were illegal then all the midi files and all the youtube "performances" of music (my own included) would be illegal too.

Any Lawyers in the house?

Gae

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posted 04-18-2008 07:56 AM PT (US)    ip  

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Well, "techincally", you need a permission from the publisher of the original work if you want to do an arrangement, adaptation etc of it.

mc


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posted 04-20-2008 10:08 AM PT (US)    ip  

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Wouldn't these be cover version? And aren't cover versions legal without permission (as long as they're not commercially released or something like that)?

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posted 04-21-2008 02:23 PM PT (US)    ip  

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This podcast from CNet Networks show "The Real Deal" might be enlightening. I listen to it regularly, but it just so happens that this week's episode is all about copyright, the DMCA, intellectual property rights, fair use, etc. The two hosts have a practicing copyright lawyer on board for the episode. It's about 25 minutes long, if I remember correctly.

Direct link to MP3

Link to "The Real Deal" home page

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posted 04-21-2008 02:52 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Wouldn't these be cover version? And aren't cover versions legal without permission (as long as they're not commercially released or something like that)?

If they were recordings, they would be considered cover versions. If the song/composition has been released commercially before, you don't need a permission to do a cover song. However, printed music is a different ballgame and for this you need a permission.

mc

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posted 04-22-2008 07:46 AM PT (US)    ip  

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Wow, thanx dude. Big help

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posted 04-30-2008 05:18 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Hi all,
I have finally completed the transcriptions I planned to, so below you will find links to cues covering all the major themes from Raise the Titanic, Toschi's Theme from Zodiac, as well as the other music from Zodiac and The Conversation that I posted several months ago. I am hosting these files on a dedicated transcriptions page on my own website (www.richardhair.net/transcriptions) so there shouldn't be a problem with them becoming unavailable.

As far as the legality of this goes, I think that if one considers the vast number of guitar tab websites hosting transcriptions of music that is actually available to buy in shops, yet which remain online without being sued, the fact that I am hosting a few obscure pieces of film music that will be of interest to a relatively small number of people is unlikely to ruffle any feathers.
That being said, if John Barry or David Shire's lawyers are so bothered by it, they can ask me to remove the files and I will.

Alternatively, they can arrange for me to be signed to a lucrative Hal Leonard contract working on film music transcriptions and everyone will be a happy camper.

Anyway, here are the links

Raise the Titanic (John Barry)]
Prelude http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/raise_the_titanic_prelude.pdf

Main Title & Mine Shaft http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/raise_the_titanic_main_title_and_the_mine_shaft .pdf

The Sicilian Project & Dog Attack http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/raise_the_titanic_the_sicilian_project_an d_dog_attack.pdf

Memories of Titanic http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/raise_the_titanic_memories_of_titanic.pdf

Titanic Uncovered http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/raise_the_titanic_titanic_uncovered.pdf

Gene Explores the Titanic & Deep Quest Trapped http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/raise_the_titanic_gene_explores_the_titanic_and_deep_quest_trapped.pdf


Zodiac (David Shire)
Toschi's Theme http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/zodiac_toschis_theme.pdf

Graysmith's Theme http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/zodiac_graysmiths_theme.pdf

The Conversation (David Shire)
Theme from the Conversation http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/the_conversation_theme_from_the_conversation.pdf

Whatever Was Arranged http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/the_conversation_whatever_was_arranged.pdf

Elevator http://richardhair.net/transcriptions/the_conversation_elevator.pdf

Enjoy!

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