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Jeron Standard Userer	Yes I did. I wasn't sure you made it. LOL. Makes a lot more sense to me now. Why did you have to remove your video? [Message edited by Jeron on 02-19-2008]
posted 02-19-2008 05:14 PM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	Jeron you did a good job at the music. I agree I definitely like that better than the hacked up job of the offical one. BTW I thought Williams was writing music for the trailer? Or is it just the offical trailer he's doing music for?
posted 02-19-2008 05:22 PM PT (US)

Tristan Standard Userer	Yes. The released teaser definitely needed to be scored with William's Indy music the whole way through. Jeron's work proves this.
posted 02-19-2008 05:39 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by BigT1981: Jeron you did a good job at the music. I agree I definitely like that better than the hacked up job of the offical one. BTW I thought Williams was writing music for the trailer? Or is it just the offical trailer he's doing music for? Well, mine's pretty hacked up, I just did a better job covering up the edits. As far as Williams writing music for the official full length trailer... gosh, I hope so! That'd be sick.
posted 02-19-2008 08:36 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	I got a BIG "Copyright Infringement" email from YouTude and AOL about the video and basically my only option was to remove it. Showed it to all my mates tonight and they loved it, thought it was hilarious, said I should put it on YouTube, oh well.
posted 02-20-2008 01:20 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: I got a BIG "Copyright Infringement" email from YouTude and AOL about the video and basically my only option was to remove it. Showed it to all my mates tonight and they loved it, thought it was hilarious, said I should put it on YouTube, oh well. Yeah, I got that too, but I disputed it, saying that my content was different than the original, that I replaced the audio track with just music, and that all of it was a not-for-profit demonstration. I also threw out the freedom of speech line. They decided to let me keep it up for now.
posted 02-20-2008 02:03 AM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	I think putting Williams' Indy music in the place of Tyler's corrupts the intent of the first part of the trailer. There, I said it! IMO, Spielberg and Co. were spot on perfect with the musical choices for this teaser. As I said before, it's a bait and switch... and an absolutely brilliant one. (But I don't really care for what I've heard of Tyler's work as standalone listening... sorry.) [Message edited by NeoVoyager on 02-20-2008]
posted 02-20-2008 08:02 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Nah, Neo, you're outta your frakkin' mind. LOL. The moment anyone sees the Paramount logo and the LucasFilm logo in sepia tones superimposed on a map, you KNOW it's Indiana Jones. There's no bait-and-switch going on here. It was just a poor decision. As I will continue to say, please treat Indiana Jones with reverence. Music should fall in line w/ that, and it's awfully interesting (and coincidental (or not??)) that the Holy Grail theme hit the marks just right. I think that's what they had in there originally.
posted 02-20-2008 10:17 AM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	Goodness gracious, you people are hilarious! You all think that everyone in the world is as knowledgeable and familiar with Indiana Jones as you are. You need to get some objectivity going on.
posted 02-20-2008 12:36 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	Perhaps it's also because I just don't care about Indiana Jones that I can see what you all can't. I'm standing out here beyond the fog of fandom and giving you the perspective of someone who isn't looking forward to or excited about this movie or score, but simply evaluating it for what it is. That could also be precisely the reason none of you will pay attention to what I say -- whatever.
posted 02-20-2008 12:39 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	BURP. [Message edited by sean on 02-20-2008]
posted 02-20-2008 12:41 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	SLURP.
posted 02-21-2008 09:48 AM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: I think putting Williams' Indy music in the place of Tyler's corrupts the intent of the first part of the trailer. There, I said it! What's more - it robs the trailer (a completely uncommercial effort) of its artistic INTEGRITY!!!!! OMG!!! OWQ!!!
posted 02-21-2008 03:33 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	The artistic integrity of a teaser trailer. Good god. 92 messages debating music in a teaser trailer. Riot. I was simply hoping to see if Spielberg has remembered how to make a "fun" movie and if Ford can pull it off. I got the answers I was looking for and look forward to the trailer and the film. Enough for me. I look forward to the inevitable Moviemusic.com crusade against Geroge Lucas for destroying the sanctity of Indiana Jones after the movie is released.
posted 02-25-2008 04:11 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Quill: I look forward to the inevitable Moviemusic.com crusade against Geroge Lucas for destroying the sanctity of Indiana Jones after the movie is released. Oh, if everything goes my way, it's already begun.
posted 02-25-2008 07:25 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Quill: The artistic integrity of a teaser trailer. Good god. I thought it was bad when gkgyver made me take my sunglasses off. The 'wink' was not enough to indicate there was humour involved?
posted 02-25-2008 08:20 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Michael, slowly you are turning into me. I stand for truth and justice and the American Way: You should, too.
posted 02-25-2008 09:09 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	My comment was aimed at everyone silly enough to bother with criticism of a teaser trailer... not you good Franz.
posted 02-28-2008 03:09 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	This thread is about the teaser, Quill. If you don't wanna read the thoughts on people "silly enough to bother with criticism of a teaser trailer", this is the wrong thread to be in.
posted 02-28-2008 03:50 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Not if you are expecting to discuss the visual content...not tracked in music which plagues most teasers and trailers. From a visual perspective I liked what I saw, and could truly care less about the editing and choice of music, which has 100% zero bearing on the final product.
posted 02-29-2008 07:43 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Quill: Not if you are expecting to discuss the visual content...not tracked in music which plagues most teasers and trailers. From a visual perspective I liked what I saw, and could truly care less about the editing and choice of music, which has 100% zero bearing on the final product. Weak sauce. Watch Jeron's re-edit of the music and than write what you just wrote.
posted 02-29-2008 11:06 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Quill: Not if you are expecting to discuss the visual content...not tracked in music which plagues most teasers and trailers. You are at MovieMusic.com *not* MovieVisuals.com. Just fyi. [Message edited by Jeron on 02-29-2008]
posted 02-29-2008 11:28 AM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	I did watch it Sean...I give Jeron credit (as always) for his solid work on trailers. Doesn't change anything though...I simply don't care about teaser music edits. Jeron...you're right, Moviemusic.com...not teasertrailermusic.com. I have nothing but high hopes for Spielberg to return to entertaining form and Williams to deliver an excellent score. Nothing in this teaser has been worth the scorn, nor has it degraded my hopes for the film. Not much else to say...no keep on chewing..if you like. [Message edited by Quill on 03-01-2008]
posted 03-01-2008 12:02 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Let me make one thing clear... Quill, I'm not disputing the quality of the trailer; everything in it was fine, with the exception of how I would have done the music. Nothing wrong in critiquing that. The way you talk, it's as if creating a teaser trailer isn't filmmaking in and of itself. It is most certainly a form of filmmaking and I think it's fair that we comment on the appropriate or inappropriate use of music in trailers. It's something people have been doing for ages. Why else would folks have demanded to have a recording of Goldsmith's music for the Judge Dredd trailer, also used in the Lost in Space trailer? What about how much many of us enjoyed the E.S. Posthumus album when that came out, which had consequently been used in countless trailers. I think it's all very relevant. I too also look forward to Indy 4 - the trailer has me very excited.
posted 03-01-2008 10:21 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Thanks for the credit, Jeron.
posted 03-02-2008 12:59 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Well, geesh. Sean, I appreciate the props, I never claimed that my music edit was superior by all measures. I like it, it's how I would have done it, doesn't mean that Spielberg and Lucas didn't have a very similar edit, argued about it for a month, and ended up shipping the version w/ the Brian Tyler bait 'n switch. Who knows? I give YOU a thumbs down for giving ME a thumbs down.
posted 03-02-2008 02:03 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	HAHA!
posted 03-02-2008 07:56 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Fair enough...I concede. On that note...I love any trailer that uses the Requiem for a Dream remix music...the long, international trailer for Sunshine being the prime example (and Two Towers.)
posted 03-03-2008 02:43 PM PT (US)

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