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TimT Standard Userer	The artwork printed on the CD label itself is probably one of the coolest I've every seen. For those searching local music shops look for it under AVPR and not Alien versus Predator: Requiem. Or else you might give the store clerk a brain aneurysm. I approached a very pretty girl working in FYE today. Very clean looking, as apposed to the goth/lesbian looking punk rockers usually in there. I asked her if they had received the soundtrack to Alien versus Predator: Requiem. She stopped what she was doing and started to think about it. She then said "Oh, I don't think that has come in yet, but we do have the other one, AVPR."
posted 12-11-2007 06:14 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	The movie looks sick. And the clips off Tyler's MySpace sound sick. SICK!!! --Brian
posted 12-11-2007 09:27 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Brian, is it Brian Tyler doing Celtic? Because if it is, than I'm down with it.
posted 12-11-2007 09:44 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	So is the score good or what?! You're like Harry Knowles up in here, Tim!
posted 12-11-2007 10:26 PM PT (US)

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posted 12-11-2007 10:29 PM PT (US)

Alexborn007 Standard Userer	I should be picking this up tomorrow. Based on the MySpace clips and Intrada's brief summary, this is going to be pretty relentless. Long album, too. Listen for bits of "Bishop's Countdown" in "Decimation Proclimation". Also caught some Predator in another part of the album. The homages seem to be more in the vein of what Beltrami did with Die Hard 4 (whereas the score is entirely Tyler, but the past scores weave in and out in a more broad sense). The main theme has a very Goldenthal-esque flair to it, though. Strap in, I'd say.
posted 12-11-2007 10:46 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	I think it sounds bad ass and I can't wait to get my hands on it for, hopefully, Christmas. --Brian
posted 12-11-2007 10:50 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	From the first 5 minutes of the film (link below), I hear shades of Goldsmith's Alien, especially in the ambience, when the Predator ship crash lands on Earth I hear it ebbing towards John Frizzell's cacophany of brass from Alien Resurrection, and then as father & son run from the crash site Horner's percussive writing is definitely a factor here, think "Ripley's Rescue" and "Futile Escape," and his screeching horror motifs from Aliens come into play as the two are surrounded by Face Huggers. The Predator on his homeworld getting ready for battle definitely has shades of Silvestri's Prtedator. I'm impressed. http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/a/Aliens-Vs-Predator-Requiem/index-3687454.html The MySpace clips: "Decimation Proclamation" HIGHLIGHTS 01:52-02:23 -- Definitely a nod to Frizzell's swimming action music from Alien Resurrection: One of the only positives from that score. 02:23 -- Fans of Elliot Goldenthal's Alien 3 will the love brass that kicks into the relentless action music. 04:07-04:57 -- The Goldenthal sound kicks in to stay for a bit echoing his swirling minimalism in strings from "Lento," only played much faster here by Tyler and mixed in with some that kick ass "Futile Escape" music from Horner. 07:07-END -- The music goes straight into "Bishop's Countdown" until the end of the track. What Tyler's done in using inspiration from the previous Alien/Predator scores is impressive. Other than Tyler's work on Enterprise, I hadn't really been taken by anything else he'd composed. AvP Requiem is a welcome score and from that piece alone it sounds like he's done justice to the legacy of the music he's continuing here. This can only mean good news for Rambo: Which is a much tougher challenge, IMO. His incorporation of the other sound from the previous Alien/Predator scores is a classy tip of the hat, nowhere rip-off or copying, but a respectful nod. "Aliens Vs. Predator Requiem" Holst's "Mars, Bringer Of War" pounds out pretty relentlessly through this cue; very cool! You can hear the Goldenthal "Lento" shades once more, which is quite cool. [Message edited by sean on 12-11-2007]
posted 12-11-2007 11:07 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Alexborn007: The homages seem to be more in the vein of what Beltrami did with Die Hard 4 I'd say Tyler did a way better job than Beltrami ever did in tipping the hat to past scores; Andrew says to blame Len Wiseman for that.
posted 12-11-2007 11:10 PM PT (US)

budharney Standard Userer	I'm surprised no one has pointed out that the chief inspiration for the score is Randy Edelman's sci-fi classic "COME SEE THE PARADISE." You remember, it's the piece that was used in the trailer for every thriller in the 1990s. Also, based on the first 5 minutes of the movie, they will be tracking in bits of the actual scores from the previous Alien and Predator scores. This should only serve to confuse people as to what Tyler adapted himself. So far, it seems to be working well.
posted 12-12-2007 07:55 AM PT (US)

TimT Standard Userer	quote: Also, based on the first 5 minutes of the movie, they will be tracking in bits of the actual scores from the previous Alien and Predator scores. This should only serve to confuse people as to what Tyler adapted himself. So far, it seems to be working well. I was going to comment on that,you can tell that by the way that clip is edited and by the way it ends , it is'nt the final cut. Its was just an extended trailer. And I don't think there going to use the music in the actual film either. [Message edited by TimT on 12-12-2007]
posted 12-12-2007 09:05 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by budharney: Also, based on the first 5 minutes of the movie, they will be tracking in bits of the actual scores from the previous Alien and Predator scores. This should only serve to confuse people as to what Tyler adapted himself. So far, it seems to be working well. uhhh... so anyway...
posted 12-12-2007 02:17 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by budharney: I'm surprised no one has pointed out that the chief inspiration for the score is Randy Edelman's sci-fi classic "COME SEE THE PARADISE." COME SEE THE PARADISE is as sci-fi as STEEL MAGNOLIAS. More AVP-R clips: http://www.briantyler.com
posted 12-13-2007 08:36 AM PT (US)

Demetris Christodoulides Standard Userer	Ah leave the stupid plagiarisms alright and enjoy the score, it is actually KICK-ASS! Watch this out too, VIDEO FROM THE RECORDING SESSIONS of ALIEN VS. PREDATOR : REQUIEM http://www.entermusic.org/
posted 12-13-2007 08:58 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Demetris Christodoulides: Ah leave the stupid plagiarisms alright and enjoy the score, it is actually KICK-ASS! Watch this out too, [b]VIDEO FROM THE RECORDING SESSIONS of ALIEN VS. PREDATOR : REQUIEM http://www.entermusic.org/ [/B] Great clip.
posted 12-13-2007 09:37 AM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	I haven't heard the first two Alien scores (I'm lukewarm about Horner and especially Goldsmith), but Goldenthal's score for the third installment is ummmmm.... my 15th most played soundtrack CD ever... which should give you a good idea what I think of it!. So, does the majority of this score tend toward the avant-garde/horror genre or the more mainstream action movie sound? If the former, I'll probably hit 'purchase' right now. [Message edited by NeoVoyager on 12-13-2007]
posted 12-13-2007 12:13 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Music sounds invigorating and the previous look great. Hopefully this one does not let me down. I was going to bite the bullet and get this one on ITUNES, but I noticed the 13-minute Taking Sides track is not included. Oh well, guess I will need to go search. 80-minutes!!! Awesome. Somebody mentioned Bishop's Countdown...is that a direct incorporation of Horner's music on the album?
posted 12-13-2007 12:30 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	Well, I watched that recording session video, and alas - I have blindly purchased it as my first Brian Tyler score. And to get free shipping, I conveniently added Marianelli's Atonement as well. Meesa happy as a dog with six bones today. FYI, that makes only my 6th 2007 score purchase. The others were Bourne 3 (3/5), Pirates 3 (4/5), Harry Potter 5 (2/5), and Eastern Promises (4/5). I bought bits and pieces of Ratatouille and Lust Caution on iTunes as well - both excellent.
posted 12-13-2007 01:05 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Quill: Somebody mentioned Bishop's Countdown...is that a direct incorporation of Horner's music on the album? No, it's not a direct incorporation of it, but it's close to that: Watch the video, there's a great example of it being used in the action music.
posted 12-13-2007 01:48 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	All of you are talking about this way too much. Go find something useful to do.
posted 12-13-2007 02:03 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	The 5-minute clip gives me even more hope! But the directors said the cut is different than the final film. I am guessing they tracked in the old film music to attract even more fans of the films. As long as the nods and references are strong, I will be happy.
posted 12-13-2007 03:16 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: "Decimation Proclamation" HIGHLIGHTS 01:52-02:23 -- Definitely a nod to Frizzell's swimming action music from Alien Resurrection: One of the only positives from that score. 02:23 -- Fans of Elliot Goldenthal's Alien 3 will the love brass that kicks into the relentless action music. 04:07-04:57 -- The Goldenthal sound kicks in to stay for a bit echoing his swirling minimalism in strings from "Lento," only played much faster here by Tyler and mixed in with some that kick ass "Futile Escape" music from Horner. 07:07-END -- The music goes straight into "Bishop's Countdown" until the end of the track. How do you look at a cue that closely and not notice the incredibly appropriate homage to Marco Beltrami's I, ROBOT three quarters of the way in?
posted 12-13-2007 03:24 PM PT (US)

Foobsie Standard Userer	[/b]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> How do you look at a cue that closely and not notice the incredibly appropriate homage to Marco Beltrami's I, ROBOT three quarters of the way in?[/B][/QUOTE] Indeed! Beltrami's I Robot is in there!
posted 12-13-2007 05:08 PM PT (US)

Demetris Christodoulides Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Demetris Christodoulides: Ah leave the stupid plagiarisms alright and enjoy the score, it is actually KICK-ASS! Watch this out too, [b]VIDEO FROM THE RECORDING SESSIONS of ALIEN VS. PREDATOR : REQUIEM http://www.entermusic.org/ [/B] p.s. Thanks to Brian for that, he provided the link himself to me this morning. Awesome score, awesome video. Enjoy people
posted 12-13-2007 05:24 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: "Aliens Vs. Predator Requiem" Holst's "Mars, Bringer Of War" pounds out pretty relentlessly through this cue; very cool! You can hear the Goldenthal "Lento" shades once more, which is quite cool. I was wondering why that track didn't remind me of Mars the first time I listened to it. I listened again, and I can see a vague similarity, but the rhythms really don't have much in common. See, Mars is notably in 5/4 time and has three separate groups of rhythmic figures per measure. D-d-d-DUM dum DUM-DUM-DUM... The rhythm here is in 3/4 time and consists of Du-du-dum DUM DUM DUM... The orchestration does hearken back to Holst though. This very rhythm can be also prominently found in Horner's "Legends of the Fall," track 4, "To the Boys" AND in another score I heard recently, but it is maddeningly escaping my mind at present. Don't mind me... I just felt like being a nitpicker tonight.
posted 12-13-2007 05:33 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by franz_conrad: How do you look at a cue that closely and not notice the incredibly appropriate homage to Marco Beltrami's I, ROBOT three quarters of the way in? What's I, Robot? Didn't Will Smith make a movie called I Am Robot and now he's releasing a sequel called I Am Legend? Beltrami must be pissed off that he wasn't hired for round 2!
posted 12-13-2007 07:43 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Neo, you're talking smack. It's pretty damn obvious Tyler was using "Mars" as a crutch there, and it works... he wrote the piece in 10/4. [Message edited by sean on 12-13-2007]
posted 12-13-2007 07:45 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	LOL! I knooooowwwwww it was deliberate, but I couldn't resist being difficult and nitpicky! But how do you figure it's in 10/4? -- Michael, who is eagerly anticipating his AVPR score arriving, but was too cheap to use anything faster than Super Saver Shipping.
posted 12-13-2007 08:24 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	10/4 signature occurs when Brian Tyler finishes a cue, turns to the "Brothers Strauss" (LOL! What a retarded name!) and says: "10/4!" I used my Super Saver option too and it looks like I won't receive the score until the middle of January!
posted 12-14-2007 11:03 AM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Discovered that I'm a bonehead and figured out that "Album Only" means buying the album from Itunes and not brick and mortar. After striking out at my two local Best Buys and I broke down and settled for the instant satisfaction of Ituness. Great listen...will need to run it through multiple times to get everything out of it.
posted 12-15-2007 10:54 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	I'll be picking my copy up soon. I haven't even begun Christmas shopping, so I'll be making many stops this week to snatch up some last minute stuff . . . AVP: R included! I can't wait. Anything is better than Kloser; and Tyler deserves a break after his score for Rambo rejected.
posted 12-16-2007 04:39 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Double post, WTF? [Message edited by nuts_score on 12-17-2007]
posted 12-16-2007 04:39 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	I'm glad Andrew's Christmas shopping was so important that he had to let us all know twice about his supposed plans. He'll be joining me later this week at Sony while I re-record some key pieces for Rambo; should be interesting.
posted 12-17-2007 03:45 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Sorry about the double time. I cleared that right up with administration. I'll see you at the studio Sean! I can't wait to be meet Stallone.
posted 12-17-2007 01:34 PM PT (US)

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