And don't say I didn't warn you.

Wonder how many seizures Giacchino's gonna have while scoring that thing…

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
Michael Giacchino is scoring this turd?!

HAAAA!

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It does look like a piece of turd doesn't it?

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
Michael Giacchino is scoring this turd?!

HAAAA!

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If nothing else, the track titles for the score album should be hilarious.

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Originally posted by SBD:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by nuts_score:
[b]Michael Giacchino is scoring this turd?!

HAAAA!<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

If nothing else, the track titles for the score album should be hilarious.

And I think we can agree that it looks a damn sight more engaging than TRANSFORMERS. Make of that what you will.[/B]

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Don't worry about the coffee. Just send me a barf bag in advance next time

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
. . . that just got beat!

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Be prepared to be beat again... I can show my emotions I went through when watching this trailer...

:vommiting:
:crying in corner while rocking:

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Originally posted by Lancelot:
Does anyone have a different opinion here or is it generally 10 same ones?

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Actually.. no.. it's not.

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Originally posted by Lancelot:
Does anyone have a different opinion here or is it generally 10 same ones?

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Yes. I have a different opinion here.

I don't get all the hate for the trailer. It's EXACTLY like a SPEED RACER cartoon come to life. What the hell these guys were expecting is beyond me.

For months all I heard about was TRANSFORMERS how great that was and I never got it because it was after "my time." Now I think SPEED RACER is before these guys' time and thus they don't get it.

James

P.S. With all the inane comments back & forth here, it's a wonder anyone bothers to post a reply.

Here's a reply: that in itself was an inane comment.

So, the crazy Wacho bros are going to take one of my old favorites and inject some hyperstupidity into it. This is why it will suck, why the "10" of us already hate it, and why the inane comments are flying. No can take this seriously regardless of how pretty it looks.

I saw Transformers last month. It too was utter garbage and I can only hope Michael Bay will address my invoice for the 2+ hours wasted watching it.

Hollywood has lost creativity, so they're taking old cartoons and kid shows, and shooting them up with mindless, confusing CG action scenes along with pointless plots and shallow character development.

And that is why I hate this trailer and what is soon to become a bomb of a movie.

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Originally posted by sean:
I don't know anything about Speed Racer, so I'm open to liking this movie. The trailer doesn't impress me, yet it would be a pleasant surprise if the film did.

Andrew, Transformers 2007 is just as stupid as it's origins; no "decent franchise" was ruined by that movie--what we already knew was simply just reiterated to us.

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I am with Sean here... But I can't imagine the movie impressing me at all. Siezures yes, impressing no... but it did remind me of N64!!! I was watching the trailer going, "man... what does this remind me of?" and then when Andrew said N64, I was like "HOLY CRAP! THAT'S IT!"

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Originally posted by sean:
... And Michael Gaicchino's involvement doesn't inspire confidence.

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
Does he ever with you?

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No. And he's going to screw up the Star Trek movie, too. Andrew, I'm waiting for a convincing argument from you as to why I should pay attention to Giacchino's music (that "complex" action music for that dumb Mission: Impossible movie he did you tell me about isn't anything if he's using the wrong notes [and that's exactly what he did... "Gee, I think I'll play that bridge attack music, wasn't that ever compelling" haha], and Lost is pure boredom also), and for that matter, Alexandre Frenchsplat too.

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Originally posted by scoreguy16:
Hey! I'll have you know that Bridge Attack scene accidently used music from War of the Worlds! So don't blame (wont bother trying to spell his name), blame John Williams! But seriously I did like Ratatouille...

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Originally posted by sean:

HAHA! While we're on Bridge Attack(s), Brad Fiedel wrote the best Bridge Attack music for True Lies. As for Ratatouille: Someone had to like it!

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I actually did like the score to True Lies, as synthy as it was. I think the Bridge Attack scene actually was my favorite track on the CD. It had a great build up to the main theme if I remember right... Now that I think about it, they need to freaken release an anamorphic version of that (or better yet, on Blu-Ray).

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
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[b]... And Michael Gaicchino's involvement doesn't inspire confidence.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Does he ever with you?[/B]

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Absolutely he does. Never mind what Sean just posted... Michael is easily one of the best of the new crop of composers out there.

There haven't heard one bad Giacchino score. From his wonderful early film work on Semper Fi, Redemption of the Ghost and My Brother The Pig to his video game music... most notably MOH, MOH: Frontline and Secret Weapons Over Normandy to his fantastic TV work (Alias and LOST) to his oh so enjoyable recent film work (Ratatouille, Sky High, The Pixar shorts... even The Incredibles - although the Barry influence gets a tad annoying), he is the most promising of the new generation of film composers.

As for Trek and Speed Racer. I have no doubt in my mind that we are going to get two incredible and vastly different styled scores. One will feature a rousing epic adventure score while the other will be reminiscent of his work on the new Space Mountain ride... which is a hoot! I'm looking forward to hearing these two scores.

-Erik-

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Originally posted by Lancelot:
I'm used to being in the minority here--nothing new in that regard, but does anyone here ever factor in benefit of the doubt? Or is calling the shots before hand just standard operating procedure?

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Originally posted by sean:
Erik "Braveheart is the best movie and score of all time!" Woods: clearly Andrew's "with you" comment was directed at you and not a response to what I wrote.

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I know it was directed at you. I thought I'd chime in with my two cents on the matter since I could see a bash Giacchino party beginning.

As for Braveheart. Braveheart is ONE of my all time favorite films and is ONE of my all time favorite scores... but NOT my ALL TIME favorite film and score.

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Originally posted by sean:
ALL TIME!!! lol...

You know, it's probably just the Star Trek thing that I have to wrap my head around: Those scores are my favourite scores of all time (lol!), literally, and I just have not heard anything from Giacchino yet that makes me trust that he'll do Star Trek justice in the way that Goldsmith, Horner, Eidelman, etc. have done for the previous films.

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Not sure what's so funny about ALL TIME...

As for Giacchino doing Star Trek justice. This guy was born to score a big sci-fi adventure film like this. If you listen to ANY of his video game work you'll hear that he knows his stuff and has a gift for melody. He also has an appreciation for everything film music and understands what he is up against. Trust me, he knows what he is doing and WILL do the Star Trek series justice. I mean, he won't write anything as bad as Insurrection or Nemesis, I can guarantee you that. Look, younger film composers have faired pretty well in the the Star Trek universe. Horner and Eidelman impressed... Giacchino WILL do the same.

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Originally posted by sean:
Erik, do you have the complete scores to either Insurrection or Nemesis? If you did, than I don't think you'd be calling them bad. Also, Goldsmith's worst ideas are better than most, if not all, other composer's best ideas: He's the master and no one can match him, no one.

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Yes I do and I think they are below average Goldsmith scores. While I LOVE the "Ba'ku Theme" from Insurrection the ripped-straight-out-of-US-Marshalls action music was irritating and paint by numbers.

Nemesis just stunk from start to finish with a so-so reaction on my part for the new Remus theme. But again, it was below standard Goldsmith writing... especially for a Star Trek film. This stuff seemed to belong in a third rate action film rather than a Star Trek film... and yes, the last two Star Trek film weren't anything special either. But after listening to the first three Goldsmith Trek scores you'd think he'd hold these films a little higher on the pedestal. I mean, Trek 5 is the WORST Trek film ever made yet just listen to that classic score Goldsmith crafted. Unfortunately, the last two Trek scores contain some of weak writing in Goldsmith's career and are two of the weakest entries in the series. I expected much more from Goldsmith.