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Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	I know, I know...strange question. But I've been craving some "new" and older Horner stuff and I wanted to toss it out there to the group...thoughts anyone? I was thinking "Field of Dreams" but let's here what everyone else has to say! --Brian
posted 09-06-2007 06:22 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	Funny... I would have rather thought you would like to hear what everyone has to say.
posted 09-06-2007 06:32 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Haha, yes yes, my endless typos. --Brian
posted 09-06-2007 06:39 PM PT (US)

joan hue Standard Userer	I still think that Legends Of The Fall is one of the most beautiful scores ever composed. I'd take another one as good as that one. NP Music of John Addison [Message edited by joan hue on 09-06-2007]
posted 09-06-2007 08:24 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Sneakers, Glory, Star Trek II, Rocketeer and Thunderheart all get regular spins at home. If you asking what old school style I would like to see him churn a new score in the vein of...I would say Rocketeer/Willow.
posted 09-06-2007 08:29 PM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	Anything by Horner from the 80's is good stuff (Krull, STII&III, Aliens, Willow, Land Before Time, etc) with the exception of Commando, Red Heat, and Vibes. Moving on to the early 90's, The Rocketeer is a must along with Sneakers, Patriot Games, A Far Off Place, The Man Without a Face, and Legends of the Fall. Not sure what you mean by "old" but from 1995 - 2000, I consider these worthy Horner listens: Braveheart, Apollo 13, Casper, Balto, Spitfire Grill, Devil's Own, and Mighty Joe Young. Is that enough Horner? If you can only pick one thing to listen to right now, make it Krull. Field of Dreams doesn't jibe with me, sorry.
posted 09-06-2007 08:39 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	I'd like to hear him bring back those swirling horns from Star Trek II/III-The Rocketeer-Willow in an action score; he sorta' brings it up in a few few phrases during his Zorro music (and briefly in "The Machine Age" on Bicentennial Man), but not enough to satisfy my cravings. I'm not even sure how to word it, but his recent scores don't sound "loose" enough like his 80's music does, it's too tight, too conservative, too predictable, and sometimes too bad. And Brian, don't lie, you know want to hear Vibes again, not Field Of Dreams! [Message edited by sean on 09-06-2007]
posted 09-06-2007 08:42 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	Rocketeer is a must of course. But how about Clear and Present Danger? I don't think I saw that mentioned yet. It's got a great opening/closing theme with at least two solid action set pieces for the SUV rats-in-a-trap midpoint scene and the fight during the finale. There's this moment during the latter when Harrison leaps onto the helicopter as the bad guy bursts from the roof and fires at him--Horner nails it, the music just builds upon itself getting more and more frantic. Yet it's entirely listenable. And sounds a hint like Goldsmith with all those horns. Just another reminder of how talented a musical dramatist Horner can be. When he's not being an absolute hack, of course. There I said it!
posted 09-07-2007 10:13 AM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	Al, the ambush sequence from Clear And Present Danger is pretty great, but that helicopter rescue sequence is not on the soundtrack, for whatever stupid reason. His best re-use of Sneakers. I was just watching this on The History Channel (history in that it was the last good Harrison Ford movie?), and was like, "Damn, Horner!" Shaun
posted 09-07-2007 11:12 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	I like The New World. But since someone brought up Devil's Own, I have to comment on that. Was I the only one that like the way that album was put together? I loved the opening and closing songs for some reason. Too bad that never made it into the movie... Just my thoughts on it. Clayton
posted 09-07-2007 12:54 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	Sneakers - Best Horner score
posted 09-07-2007 01:41 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	Sneakers is my be-all, end-all holy grail complete score. As I say every time I talk about this score, isn't it strange that all of the music that was left off of the album is music that Horner's NEVER repeated, but what IS on the album he's done time and time again (and he's STILL doing it!). Makes you wonder, but regardless, I want that extra music! The Devil's Own is a strangely compelling listen. The main and end titles are great (the end title especially, with it's musical nod to the end of Jaws at the opening), but the weird thing is....I like those real minimalist tracks with all percussion (and the one little low-end synth thing) and the all-synth tracks, too. Shaun
posted 09-07-2007 02:19 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	Shaun, I too caught Clear and Present Danger on the History Channel recently, and the one thing I enjoyed perhaps more than Horner's score is the commercial break interviews with John Milius, looking like Colonel Kurtz in the jungle mist with his rotundness and all that cigar smoke. I also must agree with the recommendation of The Devil's Own, and I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is strangely drawn to this small score. Something about it clicks with me. Perhaps that Horner has actual justification for writing celtic music? Those cheap-sounding minimalist synth tracks clash with the rest of the score, sounding like 80s artifacts, but truth be told it does give it a strange quality that I admire more now than I first did. Here's a review I wrote for it two years ago: http://www.moviemusic.com/comments.asp?mm=devilsown&author=23
posted 09-08-2007 11:40 AM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	Great review, Al! I also loved Milius on there, but now every time I see him, I always think of the following line: "This is what happens when you fck a stranger in the a*!" Shaun
posted 09-10-2007 10:36 AM PT (US)

Scorro Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by joan hue: I still think that Legends Of The Fall is one of the most [b]beautiful scores ever composed. I'd take another one as good as that one. [Message edited by joan hue on 09-06-2007][/B] Of all the Horner scores I have, this is by far the one that has been played the most... several times a year, every year. It's big, it's epic, it's beautiful and a genuine 'must have'. -g-
posted 09-10-2007 06:28 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Shaun, what piece from Sneakers is re-used for the chopper-rescue scene at the end of Clear And Present Danger? That action cue is pretty damn great from Horner; probably his last great action music to date--there's a Scottish/Irish variation/duplicate of that music in Braveheart, but it sounds nowhere near as good as it did in Clear And Present Danger. [Message edited by sean on 09-10-2007]
posted 09-10-2007 06:51 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	It's all based on his "Playtronics Break-In" cue from Sneakers. It's just more pronounced. Later to be used for the "Garage Chase" cue in The Pelican Brief, the helicopter rescue cue in Clear And Present Danger, the "Betrayal" cue in Braveheart, and "Master Alarm" in Apollo 13. The Clear And Present Danger is the loudest version of it (the big brass is closer to The Pelican Brief re-use than anything). So yeah, pretty much everything Horner's written since Sneakers action-wise is a not-so-distant cousin of that score. Shaun
posted 09-11-2007 10:10 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: I've been craving some "new" and older Horner stuff and I wanted to toss it out there to the group...thoughts anyone? I was thinking "Field of Dreams" but let's here what everyone else has to say! You'll get over it, trust me.
posted 09-12-2007 09:44 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Yep, the familiar percussion and the anchor clanging/russian bell. Excellent. and add a great vocal too. J>
posted 09-15-2007 08:07 AM PT (US)

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