Those of you with iTunes, can you check for me to see if the Take That song is on the download version? The song was written expressly for the movie and appears to not be included on the CD release.

The CD and the iTunes release don't include the Take That song and it's not available on any format, CD or Download.

Hence, if you have iTunes, you have access to the store and can check the samples, etc.

I sold off my last mac, a "PowerMac," back in 1996.

I still use lots of lumber and wall space to organize my music, and I don't mind.

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Those of you with iTunes, can you check for me to see if the Take That song is on the download version? The song was written expressly for the movie and appears to not be included on the CD release.
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You know, this is a real pet peeve of mine! I hate that.

Scott

There are many musical instances that sound like Lord of the Rings though. There's a repeated action bit that sounds like the "5-beat pattern" of Isengard. And there's also a love theme (I guess) that sounds like the Shire Hymn. There's also one instance that I swear is a direct quote from either TT or ROTK, but I can't remember. I'll need to see it again. These are not faults, by the way.

Great movie and score!

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Originally posted by Swashbuckler:
I enjoyed this movie very much. The trailers made it look obnoxious, but it actually is a very good adaptation of the book, and most enjoyable.

I also noticed that Lamia's trap scene (I don't have the score yet, I'm waiting for the CD) sounded much like Bram Stoker's Dracula, but I have to say that I think these moments we're noticing more qualify as 'influence' than anything else. This is no 300.

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Oh of course! They're not direct quotes, although that passage from TT or ROTK does sound an awful lot like it.

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
I found the film a bit disappointing (I've read the novel, and I felt the world was a little stranger than what was translated for the film) and I felt that Matthew Vaughn relied too much on CGI and speed ramping with his camera movements; I also have to cite Ricky Gervais brief cameo (which could have been great) ruined by the inclusion of the line, "You having a laugh?", from the fictional sitcom his character is a part of on his brilliant television series Extras. I absolutely hated that moment. The acting was tolerable (though lead Charlie Cox could've used a tremendous amount of charisma) and DeNiro certainly stole the whole show. I'm surprised that the score is getting such good marks among our likes considering how unoriginal it is. And in regards to Swashbuckler's comment on the similarity to Kilar's Dracula I was cringing indefinitely during that scene because the music WAS a Tyler Bates-hackjob. The rest of the music seemed cobbled together from prior Horner, Goldenthal (especially in third act), Shore, and Williams pieces. Not influence in my opinion, just plain laziness.

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Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and there will of course always be a few that think it's a stinker. But, I've seen the film twice and thoroughly enjoyed it the second time as much as the first. It's not without its flaws, but I do place it up there w/ Princess Bride. I think time will obviously tell what the verdict will be once it hits home video and has a chance to circulate. I believe the film was poorly marketed, and has probably contributed greatly to its box office failure.

On the whole however, each time I've been in the theater, the seats were completely filled, and the audience was thoroughly enjoying the story as it was unfolding. One problem I find with book-to-movie adaptations is that if you've read the book, 9 out of 10 times you (or someone else) will ultimately be disappointed with how it translates on screen. OR, it was executed so literally and precisely, that there's nothing new or interesting and the experience falls flat. For this reason, I've stopped reading the Potter books and will only read the corresponding book once I've seen the film. As such I'm doing the same with Stardust - about to crack that open as I type this. If the book is better than the film, I'm glad I saw the film without expectation, so I could enjoy it, and thus enjoy the book even more.

Charlie Cox did a fantastic job, and Robert DeNiro, while certainly entertaining (and a surprise to many who didn't know what to expect), didn't steal the show in my opinion. If anything, it was his performance I felt was a bit forced, though he squeaked by and still managed to provide some good chuckles. He added to the whole more than subtracted.

The score did a great job IMHO -- and while the Dracula reference had the potential to be distracting, it wasn't for me. The rest of the music in the film didn't immediately call out any other particular temp references, but regardless, supported the material and made the film more fun.

I'm recommending this one to everyone I know.

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Originally posted by nuts_score:
Now while I'm not saying the film was bad, I'm just saying that I was disappointed. I did enjoy it quite a bit and felt it was a comfortable relax from the crap of summer '07 (though not as enticing as Herzog's Rescue Dawn). I just felt like Matthew Vaughn could've handled the material more deftly (especially after the low-key Layer Cake) and avoided so much CGI-gimmickery. I also can't stress enough how much speed ramped camera movements and pans grate me; anyone else? My girlfriend throughly loved it (after initially dismissing it as a silly child's film) and I certainly have recommended it to a few friends.

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What exactly is a "speed ramped camera movement"? Is that an iconic Peter Jackson aerial shot? Or one of those digital, impossible-in-real-life shots used so often as transitions in the film?

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Originally posted by StarlessWinter:
What exactly is a "speed ramped camera movement"? Is that an iconic Peter Jackson aerial shot? Or one of those digital, impossible-in-real-life shots used so often as transitions in the film?

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Speed ramping is speeding up camera pans across distances (usually used during long aerial takes of landscape and action). The technique is fairly new, and seems to be an awful Avid fart only a studio suit could appreciate. Lee Tamahori used it to dire effect in Die Another Day (and I'm guessing he re-used it in his follow-up, Next) and I almost swore off the Bond franchise when this happened (luckily we got a firm action director for Casino Royale as well as an expert editor in Stuart Baird - who should've gotten the job to direct Bond 22). I don't think it irritates too many, as I'm the only person I've known to have ever complained. I just think it distract from the director's camera movements and gives me a sickly feeling. As I far as I remember, I don't think Peter Jackson uses them in the LotR films; even though I don't like him all that much, he's a much classier filmmaker.

I was listening to the Stardust score yesterday and was quite impressed at the blatant ripoff in track 9. The lengthy track 'Lamia's Inn', from roughly the 3:00 mark onwards, is an extremely similar copy of 'Vampire Hunters' from Kilar's Dracula.

You can hear them here:
Dracula - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JwMtjKzvz4
Stardust - http://www.7digital.com/artists/ilan-eshkeri-london-metropolitan-orchestra/stardust-music-from-the-motion-picture-(1)/

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Originally posted by Camillu:
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I did a quick search and nothing cropped up.

I was listening to the [b]Stardust score yesterday and was quite impressed at the blatant ripoff in track 9. The lengthy track 'Lamia's Inn', from roughly the 3:00 mark onwards, is an extremely similar copy of 'Vampire Hunters' from Kilar's Dracula.

You can hear them here:
Dracula - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JwMtjKzvz4
Stardust - http://www.7digital.com/artists/ilan-eshkeri-london-metr opolitan-orchestra/stardust-music-from-the-motion-picture-(1)/

Was this an original Kilar composition or was it based on some classical piece?[/B]

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