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Scott Standard Userer	Maleficio from the Witches of Eastwick is quite a capper. Scotty The Witches of Eastwick...ahhhhhh...what a score, what a score.
posted 08-13-2007 08:22 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	The Fan had a pretty good villain theme. At first it's just a piano theme for Gil (Robert DeNiro) and then as the film moves on the theme starts to break apart and you hear parts on a processed guitar and other things. Then in the end it's like a piano version with all the other distorted elements together performing the theme. That's one I like at least... Clayton
posted 08-13-2007 08:44 PM PT (US)

StarlessWinter Non-Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by scoreguy16: The Fan had a pretty good villain theme. At first it's just a piano theme for Gil (Robert DeNiro) and then as the film moves on the theme starts to break apart and you hear parts on a processed guitar and other things. Then in the end it's like a piano version with all the other distorted elements together performing the theme. That's one I like at least... Clayton I love when themes are used with variations of instruments and by development rather than simply stating the same thing over and over.
posted 08-13-2007 09:11 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by StarlessWinter: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by scoreguy16: [b]The Fan had a pretty good villain theme. At first it's just a piano theme for Gil (Robert DeNiro) and then as the film moves on the theme starts to break apart and you hear parts on a processed guitar and other things. Then in the end it's like a piano version with all the other distorted elements together performing the theme. That's one I like at least... Clayton<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> I love when themes are used with variations of instruments and by development rather than simply stating the same thing over and over. [/B] I agree with you on that. Danny Elfman does that a lot... Like with The Family Man I believe you only hear sections of the theme until the last like quarter of the movie. Another person, though I hate to mention him or his themes... James Horner. He also is able to take a theme which might be heroic at one moment and make it dramatic and seem like a tragic loss for others. Clayton NP>Pirates 3
posted 08-14-2007 10:24 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Cole: "You know...I had a beer with Vader and Voldemort the other day at this wonderfull little bungalow by the beach. You would think it would be a lot of fun - those two spinning yarns about the gloriousness of evil and all that. And it was fun for a while - until Voldemort got so tickled at the beer foam on Vader's face plate that he started spewing beer from those bizarre snake-like nostrils in his nonexistant nose. I guess Vader was embarrassed (i can understand - i mean have you ever tried to drink a beer through a mask like that? it's tough) and he got mad and started hurling those little drink umbrellas at Voldemort with the power of the force. Voldemort started throwing around the unforgivable curses and things got a little out of hand. And before i had a chance to calm them down the cabana was on fire and i was running for my life." LOL Cole. Did you actually write that? Hahahaha. How can we possibly change subjects now, with such interesting and compelling prose...?
posted 08-14-2007 12:58 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: Timestamps, Marian, for these other two themes? 1:09 and 1:39 in The Face of Voldemort. The first theme rarely occurs on the CD, but in the film, the context seems clear.
posted 08-14-2007 06:32 PM PT (US)

StarlessWinter Non-Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: *1:09 and 1:39 in The Face of Voldemort. The first theme rarely occurs on the CD, but in the film, the context seems clear.* Are you sure about those times? I just listened to it, and nothing new starts at either of them; they're right in the middle of other music.
posted 08-14-2007 08:08 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: *1:09 and 1:39 in The Face of Voldemort. The first theme rarely occurs on the CD, but in the film, the context seems clear.* Hmmmm. Those sound a little iffy to me too. Are you sure you don't mean 1:24 and 1:55?
posted 08-14-2007 09:05 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Scott: Maleficio from the Witches of Eastwick is quite a capper. Scotty The Witches of Eastwick...ahhhhhh...what a score, what a score. Indeed!
posted 08-14-2007 09:14 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	0:12 is the Stone motif. (0:45 is Hedwig's theme, obviously) 1:07 is the theme that's always played when You Know Who is talked about in the movie (yes, it's repeated at 1:24, at least the first half of it) 1:37 is the theme for the "full Voldemort", so to speak; it's played when Voldemort's power is tangible In this particular track, the transition between the two themes happens just when Voldemort's face is reveiled. There's nothing at 1:55, as far as I can tell.
posted 08-15-2007 05:42 AM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	I think John Powell's Face Off has a nice cool/bad guy theme that you can hear at the beginning of the "Furniture" track. Goes well with the scene, too.
posted 08-15-2007 12:26 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	You're not listening to the complete score for HP 1 are you, Marian? I'm listening to the OST. 1:07 is silence for me, and then a couple seconds later the stone theme again, and 1:37 is right in the middle of the same theme that plays at 1:24. Oh well. I'll post some sheet music samples once I get off work. I'm quite curious to further analyze these themes, if you don't mind my peskiness.
posted 08-15-2007 01:01 PM PT (US)

StarlessWinter Non-Standard Userer	I still don't see how the three note motif is the Stone theme. Yes, it makes sense in the first film, but it's often played at odd moments that have nothing to do with the Stone, and it's also in the second film, which obviously has nothing to do with the Stone. Maybe it was just tracked in? And those times don't match with the music for me either.
posted 08-15-2007 01:19 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	I have an "extended score", but those timings refer to the flac I ripped from my OST CD. Total running time of the track is 6:10. The Voldemort theme can also be heard in The Quidditch Match, when Quirrel/Voldemort is jinxing Harry's broom. The You Know Who is nowhere else on the CD, but theme can be heard, for example, in the scene where Hagrid first tells Harry about him. [Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 08-15-2007]
posted 08-15-2007 02:04 PM PT (US)

ExplorerII Non-Standard Userer	this is going to sound wierd probably,but, The White Witch, From The Chronicles of narnia, The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe.
posted 08-15-2007 04:25 PM PT (US)

SBD Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Scott: Maleficio from the Witches of Eastwick is quite a capper. Scotty The Witches of Eastwick...ahhhhhh...what a score, what a score. I'm also quite partial to Daryl's theme, esp. the piano and slithering harpsichord version in "Daryl Rejected".
posted 08-15-2007 06:07 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by ExplorerII: this is going to sound wierd probably,but, The White Witch, From The Chronicles of narnia, The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. You would say that, wouldn't you?
posted 08-15-2007 07:55 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	OK, Marian... I think I have it now, timestamps aside. 1. The Stone Theme http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/voyager89/StoneTheme.jpg 2. Voldemort's Theme http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/voyager89/VoldemortTheme.jpg 3. You-Know-Who Theme? (my personal favorite in the score besides Hedwig's): http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/voyager89/You-Know-WhoTheme.jpg quote: The Voldemort theme can also be heard in The Quidditch Match, when Quirrel/Voldemort is jinxing Harry's broom. Yes, precisely when Hermione looks over at Snape in the binoculars. This is exactly the theme I was describing on the first page... "a sequence of dotted quarter notes tied to eighths in a long ascending and then descending theme with tons of accidentals." I guess that wasn't very clear. It's number 3 above. Does that all look right to you?
posted 08-15-2007 08:44 PM PT (US)

ExplorerII Non-Standard Userer	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by NeoVoyager: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by ExplorerII: [b]this is going to sound wierd probably,but, The White Witch, From The Chronicles of narnia, The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> You would say that, wouldn't you?[/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> It is a little effective. It doesnt really fit her though...... But still, that was not nice NeoVoyager! [Message edited by ExplorerII on 08-16-2007]
posted 08-15-2007 10:17 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	Oh yes, I have a weird one... by Harry Gregson-Williams... The Asteroid theme from Armageddon. It's a very odd and erie piece used multiple times in the movie, and it's good stuff in my eyes. Van Helsing, the dracula theme is huge and awesome. Another odd one, Twister. The creepy music for the twisters is fantastic. The Kraken from Pirates 2 is also some good stuff. Blood Diamond had an alright Villain theme, however it just added to the popcornness of the movie which is sad considering how great it could've been. That's all I can think of right now... Clayton
posted 08-16-2007 11:17 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by NeoVoyager: OK, Marian... I think I have it now, timestamps aside. Exactly. Perhaps my audio buffer offsets the time display a bit. Anyway, you got the themes I was talking about.
posted 08-16-2007 12:54 PM PT (US)

Cole Standard Userer	Glad you appreciate my literary prowess Jeron!
posted 08-20-2007 09:21 PM PT (US)

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