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    Topic:   Ingmar Bergman gone...

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/movies/5010324.html

    I'm getting that feeling again I last felt when Bresson died. And Kubrick before that. And Kurosawa and Kieslowski before that. Now with Bergman gone, there are no truly great old directors left from that era when cult directors were few and far between, save perhaps Renais. And the great shame is that most of the films of that generation remain unseen to the young people of today for the sake of gratuitous garbage like... (ah, wait, it need not be named!)

    I hope I get a chance to sit back some time in the next few months and spend a day watching old Bergmans. I would very much like to see SHAME. I would love to see PERSONA and FANNY AND ALEXANDER again.

    Just to keep things on-topic... there is a CD put out by Marco Polo with re-recordings of Erik Nordgren's scores for early Bergman films. The later films of course became sparer in their use of music and - like Kubrick, Tarkovsky and others - tended towards the classical back-catalogue, to great effect.

    RIP.

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    posted 07-30-2007 06:12 AM PT (US)     

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    News that truly made me depressed (though I'm sure Ingmar would've preferred me that way). With IMDb my home page I was struck with the news on my awakening this morning. I had to jet to work but contemplated his life's work and what it meant to film. The best thing about Bergman dying, is that - other than being 89 years old - he lived one of the most complete artistic lives ever. I haven't been a Bergman fan until recently, maybe even 13 or 14 months ago when I finally saw Scenes from a Marriage with my best friend. I absolutely adored the style of the film, and we sought out other Bergman films. My friend through Netflix and myself through the superb Criterion Collection DVDs of his work (God bless that company). Subsequently, we've been advocates of his work about our collective film community around the Atlanta area, being as - surprisingly - many had never seen a Bergman film. Among my favorites are Persona, The Seventh Seal, and Winter Light. Nearly all of his work is phenominal, but those made the biggest impact on my film knowledge. He truly was a great loss, but the man was old enough and - just like Altman's A Prairie Home Companion - Saraband was a fitting swansong.

    And, Michael, don't forget that we still have Antonioni, Bertolucci, and Herzog.

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    posted 07-30-2007 09:17 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by nuts_score:
    And, Michael, don't forget that we still have Antonioni, Bertolucci, and Herzog.

    I've always thought of Herzog as belonging to a slightly younger generation. (Though you're right in that he is as great as any of these.)

    As for Antonioni - after his contribution to the EROS compilation, I can't say I'd miss the promise of another Antonioni film. I used to be a big Bertolucci fan as well, but STEALING BEAUTY and THE DREAMERS have tested my beliefs. (Of course with both these directors, latter mistakes do not cancel out early greatness... but it's hard to completely like a film with a bad ending, and maybe the same is true for directors.)

    It occurs to me that I must see more of Bergman's films. I've seen 5 of 50. :O

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    posted 07-30-2007 09:33 PM PT (US)     

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    Incidentally, Nuts - I've only just read your profile. I wish I'd seen so much when I was 20!

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    posted 07-30-2007 09:36 PM PT (US)     

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    7th Seal was my favorite

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    posted 07-30-2007 11:56 PM PT (US)     

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    Last night on the ABC here in Australia, the story about Bergman's passing commented that, "...he enjoyed experimenting with modern relationships."

    A rather creative euphemism for "he slept around", I thought.

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    posted 07-31-2007 07:05 PM PT (US)     

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    This is definitely the worst I've felt about the death of beloved artists since Bernstein, Goldsmith, and Raksin. Once again, it feels like an entire era is fading away.

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    Originally posted by franz_conrad:
    As for Antonioni - after his contribution to the EROS compilation, I can't say I'd miss the promise of another Antonioni film.

    Did you happen to see Lo Sguardo di Michelangelo (Michelangelo Face to Face)? It's an extraordinary short, and I'd be hard-pressed to think of a better ending to an artist's career. Check it out if you get the chance (I think it's on the Eros DVD).

    Kirk

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    posted 07-31-2007 11:12 PM PT (US)     

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    While I should be writing this in the Antonioni thread that Mike made, this one is a little more active.

    I had an internet free day yesterday, and with no major news outlets covering something artistically important like Antonioni's passing (and why should they? Lindsay Lohan is in deep trouble and Paris is writing a book on her troubling experience in prison) I was a little saddened to be a day behind on such an interesting news item; especially right after I posted a message including his name amongst the last of the great 20th Century film artisans. While Antonioni's work was never as influential on me as much as Bergman's was, I still hold a high regard for his artistic vision. My one viewing of both L'Avventura and Blowup have still remained as cherished memories; and, with his departing, I'm hoping to catch more of his work. But, at 94, you can't claim he didn't live a full life. So, as it goes, he's a great loss to the art of cinema; but thank you for the memories!

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    posted 08-01-2007 09:05 PM PT (US)     

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    I was surprised to hear of his passing. I thought he had already gone from this world. It's odd because very recently I've become interested in watching his films.

    I'm starting with the Seventh Seal.

    [Message edited by vdemona on 08-02-2007]

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