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CITY OF PRAGUE PHILHARMONIC/CROUCH END FESTIVAL CHORUS
MUSIC FROM THE PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN TRILOGY

Label: SILVA AMERICA
Price Code: AQ
Cat Number: SIL-CD-1241
UPC: 738572124120
Release Date: 09/25/2007
Genre: FILM/SHOW
Format: CD FULL LENGTH

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Originally posted by BigT1981:
Oh lord... I can only imagine how horrid the slow tempo for this would sound like...

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Did you hear the quasi-extensive suite from the first film that they released a few years back? They also put the Kraken on a recent Zimmer double CD.

I thought the suite from the first film was rather good, The Kraken was not as good as the OST though, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by BigT1981:
Honestly I've never bothered with re-recordings. The tempos for them are not ones to be desired at all. 99% of them are generally too slow.

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I guess you are lucky to have not encountered ones that can be too fast!!!

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Originally posted by tjguitar:

Did you hear the quasi-extensive suite from the first film that they released a few years back? They also put the Kraken on a recent Zimmer double CD.
I thought the suite from the first film was rather good, The Kraken was not as good as the OST though, in my opinion.

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If your referring to that 6 disc set 100 Greatest Film Themes, I already have like 90+ of those, since i assumed they recycled most of the tracks...so I figured it a waste of money...what kind of packaging was that in? sleeves?
www.silvamasters.com only shows the Kenneth Alwyn conducted recording for Mohicans. I think it was from "Cinema's Classic Romances". Are you sure it's different?

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Originally posted by NeoVoyager:
I stay away from Silva compilation re-recordings for the most part. I almost vomited when I heard their re-recording of "Forth Eorlingas" and "Isengard Unleashed" on their LotR Trilogy album.

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Originally posted by tjguitar:
If your referring to that 6 disc set 100 Greatest Film Themes, I already have like 90+ of those, since i assumed they recycled most of the tracks...so I figured it a waste of money...what kind of packaging was that in? sleeves?
www.silvamasters.com only shows the Kenneth Alwyn conducted recording for Mohicans. I think it was from "Cinema's Classic Romances". Are you sure it's different?

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There's the advantage of per-track downloading. You pick and choose the tracks you want, so when a label recycles their recordings, you're not getting hit with paying full price for a few tracks you want to hear.

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Yeah....was this CD released that way?

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Originally posted by sean:
Just an observation: Dinko, is it safe to say you are the moviemusic.com expert on re-recordings of scores?

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CoBP - Barbossa is Hungry 4:09
- Moonlight Serenade 1:21
- The Black Pearl / Will & Elizabeth 4:19
- Underwater March 4:09
- (Suite previously recorded by Nic Raine) 7:41

DMC - Davy Jones 3:25
- Dinner is Served 1:30
- Jack Sparrow 5:58
- The Kraken 5:01

I thought the organ part at 4:24 was kind of wonky myself and seemed to cut in abruptly..no crescendo whatever...and it seemed kind of slow. And the sound of the organ is just kind of funky.

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What I like about stuff like this is, you can just take one disc and put it in your car and have the best from the 3 films, or whatever.

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LOL or you could just make your own disc with material from the correct tempo originals! *scratches head*

LOL or you could just make your own disc with material from the correct tempo originals! *scratches head*

[Message edited by Jeron on 08-11-2007][/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, that is true, but in cases like The INDIANA JONES TRILOGY, the original 3 are out of print, and hte only one I could find o the original recording was Last Crusade. Besides, I'm not one of those who is the mind of there's only one "definitive version" and all others are crap. I've heard many different versions of Beethoven's 5th and some are slower than others. Anyway, these are aimed at people who don't buy the 3 originals, but rather want the best of all 3 in one purchase.

Anyway, here's a full track listing from James Fitzpatrick!

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THE PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN Trilogy
Suites for Symphony Orchestra and Large Chorus

Suite from THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL
Composed by Klaus Badelt
1. Moonlight Serenade (1:21)
2. To the Pirates Cave / Skull and Crossbones(7:43)
3. Underwater March (4:12)
4. The Black Pearl / Will and Elizabeth (4:21)
5. Barbossa is Hungry (4:13)

Suite from DEAD MAN'S CHEST
Composed by Hans Zimmer
6. Davy Jones (3:28)
7. The Kraken (5:03)
8. Dinner is Served (1:32)
9. Jack Sparrow (6:00)

Suite from AT WORLD'S END
10. I See Dead People in Boats (5:27)
11. Up is Down (2:42)
12. What Shall We Die For (2:08)
13. I Don't think Now is the Right Time? (10:46)
14. Drink Up Me Hearties (4:35)

TT: 63:39

The City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra and Choir
Conducted by
James Fitzpatrick

Note from the Producer:

As there are already original soundtrack albums available for all 3 PIRATES
OF THE CARIBBEAN movies…why the need for a “highlights” CD? Well this recording is more than just that. Yes, my brief was to produce a recording of the “best bits” of the Zimmer and Badelt scores...but also to present the
music in a truly symphonic and acoustic way. In other words have my team of brilliant orchestrators adapt the heady soundtrack mix of orchestra, samples, ethnic percussion and keyboards to an environment more suited to
the concert halls of Europe. So, with very little reliance upon overdubs, apart from organ, pan-pipes, some extra percussion and the odd bass line, these are arrangements that can be performed totally “live” by a
full symphony orchestra - in this case some 85 musicians - and choir - 120 voices
on this recording. However, these orchestrations are not ponderous or
pretentious adaptations but remain true to the spirit of the originals as conceived by Badelt and Zimmer. Both orchestra, choir and production team had great fun recording these pieces. I can only hope that this enthusiasm
and joie de vivre comes across on the finished CD.

James Fitzpatrick - August 2007<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

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the concert halls of Europe. So, with very little reliance upon overdubs, apart from organ, pan-pipes, some extra percussion and the odd bass line, these are arrangements that can be performed totally “live” by a
full symphony orchestra - in this case some 85 musicians - and choir - 120 voices
on this recording.

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but this will be interesting to hear. If it will be pleasurable, that remains to be seen, but at least it's interesting.

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Originally posted by gkgyver:
I wonder whether Zimmer's music can survive in purely symphonic form.

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Originally posted by gkgyver:
I wonder whether Zimmer's music can survive in purely symphonic form.

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Sure it can. At World's End was on the whole his most symphonic of them all. Black Pearl suffered from an emergency speed scoring job, so while the music is entertaining and works well in the context of the film, Klaus Badelt's sampled sequencing and the quality of those samples leave much to be desired. It'd sound infinitely better if it had been recorded with an orchestra. Whether or not the Prague Philharmonic is up to the task of performing the work, that's another question entirely. Someone gonna jump on this one?

Jeron

**Update: Just saw Dinko's response - we must've responded at the same time. One of my buddies helped on the arrangement end of this album, not sure which segments my friend did though. I agree however that it's important the arrangements remain true to their originals - and b/c of the purely symphonic nature of this recording (assuming Silva didn't produce pre-lays), it's up to the orchestrators to help fill in the gaps where Zimmer would normally be doing his thang.

I'm glad someone noticed, I spent a few hours in post making the recording we did years ago sound a bit more like the original

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Originally posted by tjguitar:
Anyway, it was a good listen on the drive home.

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Originally posted by tjguitar:
I like it, especially the new tracks with the Prague Choir. Sounds so much better than the two old tracks with the Crouch End. Not sure why, isn't the Crouch End more expensive?

Anyway, it was a good listen on the drive home.

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Yeah well... check the El Cid discussion at FSM. Saying the Crouch Enders do a worse job thant the Praguers attracts the attention of the STPD, so you better retract your comments, you clueless fanboy.
And as for pricing, I asked James Fitzpatrick that same question in the EL CID thread, but I don't think he ever got around to answering it.