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PeterK FishChip	Viacom has sold off Famous Music, the music publishing division of Paramount Pictures. Sony/ATV is now the owner. This opens up at least a little bit of speculation, specifically regarding movie soundtracks.... [Message edited by PeterK on 05-31-2007]
posted 05-31-2007 12:12 AM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	Isn't Sony owned by Universal? It seems like Sony Classsical, RCA, Philips, Decca, and Universal are all combined and released on any given label, at least in regards to classical.
posted 05-31-2007 12:23 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Sony and Universal are two totally different music empires. I think it could be rather interesting actually. And hopefully a good thing for us. --Brian NP: Pan's Labyrinth [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 05-31-2007]
posted 05-31-2007 01:18 AM PT (US)

mathew Non-Standard Userer	Wow, hopefully this could open the door for some new Star Trek releases...
posted 05-31-2007 09:41 AM PT (US)

Adoy Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by mathew: Wow, hopefully this could open the door for some new Star Trek releases... That wouldn't suck.
posted 05-31-2007 10:36 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	That's assuming Sony has any interest... let's hope there are some Star Trek advocates over there, because the only way I see this happening is if someone decides to spearhead it personally simply b/c they want to. As much as I'd love to see new Star Trek releases, I don't see how anyone could see much profit in it... [Message edited by Jeron on 05-31-2007]
posted 05-31-2007 11:25 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: ...the only way I see this happening is if someone decides to spearhead it personally simply b/c they want to... That's usually the case, unless it's a brand new release.... but this is about the back catalog of Famous Music and those treasures waiting to be found by individual producers. The only difference now with a new owner is there may be someone to answer the door when the producers come knocking. Before there wasn't.
posted 05-31-2007 11:47 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Good point. Any idea what's IN that catalog?
posted 05-31-2007 12:04 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Essentially all original music written for Paramount Pictures movies from 1928 on! This is broad, though, as many publishing rights may be co-owned, especially on films were Paramount Pictures was not the sole owner/producer of the film.
posted 05-31-2007 12:43 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	In that case, how does this apply to the Indiana Jones scores?
posted 05-31-2007 01:10 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	But yeah, on to specifics... Raiders of the Lost Ark for one! George Lucas and Sony combo... not that there is a 100% direct relationship in this specific case, but look at what Sony's done with all that Star Wars music once Sony got it. Having Indy music in circulation again would be fantastic. Umm, a 1000 unit limited edition of the complete remastered Beverly Hills Cop score? I need an expanded Axel F theme. But I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Intrada might show interest in some Mancini titles like the original tracks (even if in mono) from Hatari or Breakfast at Tiffany's. It would be nice to see something like Chinatown back in print... although Universal may still have a contract on that publishing right, which came from Paramount's sale of ABC Records to MCA in the 70s. It will likely end up that some out-of-print rarities like this one and The Ten Commandments remain tied up until licenses expire (or at least until lawyers find new loopholes that may open when a huge publisher like Famous Music is sold!!). Of course... this all presupposes someone at Sony will listen. They have been tough to crack, but it can't be worse that it was with Paramount... that was as bad as it could get.
posted 05-31-2007 01:16 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Well, then would this mean that Young Sherlock Holmes might actually get a real commercial release? And heck yeah, Indy music. There we go. Make it happen! Also, I honestly wouldn't mind having some music from Beverly Hills Cop. That'd be some campy fun. [Message edited by Jeron on 05-31-2007]
posted 05-31-2007 01:36 PM PT (US)

haineshisway Non-Standard Userer	Um, Famous Music is a PUBLISHING company. This deal has nothing to do with Paramount's MUSIC masters or those rights, it only has to do with their publishing rights.
posted 05-31-2007 01:42 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	Publisshing being the sheet music for re-recorded performances/concerts, correct?
posted 05-31-2007 01:47 PM PT (US)

haineshisway Non-Standard Userer	Absolutely correct.
posted 05-31-2007 01:59 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Well then in that case, poo.
posted 05-31-2007 02:12 PM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	Sheet music... BLAH!
posted 05-31-2007 02:46 PM PT (US)

BackToTheFutureFan Standard Userer	Who owns the rights to Back to the Future?
posted 05-31-2007 03:07 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Viacom's selling off one aspect of licensing remains interesting. I apologize for my excitement when later posting about things that have more to do with mechanical master licensing. But either way, I am excited to see this. I think it will lead, directly or indirectly, to some promising opportunities for little labels. [Message edited by PeterK on 05-31-2007]
posted 05-31-2007 03:46 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	quote: Originally posted by BackToTheFutureFan: Who owns the rights to Back to the Future? Universal. Perhaps Amblin too.
posted 05-31-2007 04:04 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	quote: Sony and Universal are two totally different music empires. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Music_Group#Universal_Music_Classics_Group Seems Universal has DECCA, PHILIPS and DEUTSCHE GRAMAPHON, while SONY has BMG, RCA and Columbia/CBS
posted 05-31-2007 05:07 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	That would be correct.
posted 05-31-2007 07:52 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: That would be correct. Your Mom.
posted 05-31-2007 08:12 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: [b]That would be correct.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Your Mom.[/B] your mom's mom.
posted 05-31-2007 09:05 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by tjguitar: your mom's mom. Your mother's ex-great-grandmother's foster half sister-in-law's boyfriend's dog.
posted 06-01-2007 05:40 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Standard Userer	Now you're just getting plain nasty.
posted 06-01-2007 09:29 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Mark Olivarez: Now you're just getting plain nasty. Arf! arf!
posted 06-02-2007 01:48 AM PT (US)

vdemona Standard Userer	Maybe all of this means that they'll finally get around to putting out Georges Delerue's Anne of the Thousand Days score on cd. Fat chance but one can still hope.
posted 06-02-2007 07:02 PM PT (US)

Cole Standard Userer	How is it that Jeron and Bri can turn a wonderful, intellectually stimulating discussion about the Music Business into an episode of Romper Room fatser than James Horner can throw in his tradmark 4 note "evil" theme into any given piece of music?
posted 06-04-2007 06:42 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Hey now...I only have like 2 posts here. Cole, don't lump me into the Trouble-Casuing crowd here :: points :: Blame tjguitar for fueling Jeron's "Your Mom" fire. Just because Jeron can't keep his mouth shut... --Bri [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 06-04-2007]
posted 06-04-2007 06:51 PM PT (US)

Cole Standard Userer	well. I suppose tjguitar does deserve some credit. but stil Bri, you know you and jeron are trouble makers
posted 06-05-2007 05:42 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Cole, you are a troll. Prove me wrong. [Message edited by Jeron on 06-05-2007]
posted 06-05-2007 08:00 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	I agree with my Home Boy.
posted 06-05-2007 08:04 PM PT (US)

Cole Standard Userer	A troll? I am unsure what you mean by that. I might be seriously offended
posted 06-05-2007 10:56 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Hehe. You miss the razz attacks. You can call me if you're seriously offended. We can take this outside if you want to. I'll show you what's up. I know how to deal with people from Nashville. [Message edited by Jeron on 06-05-2007]
posted 06-05-2007 11:12 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Remember to dial 911 for room service.
posted 06-05-2007 11:18 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Yeah Jeron...we all know how you deal with people from Country Land...err..Nashville. --Brian
posted 06-06-2007 03:27 AM PT (US)

Cole Standard Userer	Jeron: grrr Peterk: thanks for the reminder. it's good to know those of us on the 13th floor are being catered to. Bri: treading on thin ice
posted 06-07-2007 06:50 PM PT (US)

Cole Standard Userer	=) [Message edited by Cole on 06-07-2007]
posted 06-07-2007 08:25 PM PT (US)

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