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    Topic:   Flags & Letters released by Milan

     Kris
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    Milan is releasing a 2 disc special edition from Flags of our Fathers and Letters to Iwo Jima (http://www.milanrecords.com/iwojima/). Haven't seen them so I can't say what the music is like.

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    posted 05-09-2007 01:35 AM PT (US)     

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    These two are among the least impressive scores released in the last year. Both test the dramatic limits of an attractive simple theme.

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    posted 05-09-2007 02:04 AM PT (US)     

     Demetris Christodoulides
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    Hurrah for Letters, one of the most tedious and boring but also extremely badly-recorded things you'll ever hear.

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    posted 05-09-2007 03:42 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by franz_conrad:
    These two are among the least impressive scores released in the last year. Both test the dramatic limits of an attractive simple theme.

    Can't say I would've bought the set. I don't think I have any of Eastwood's nor Niehaus' scores on CD.


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    posted 05-09-2007 05:15 AM PT (US)     

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    I like Mystic River, but it's true that the Eastwood clan comes up with a simple theme and tries to stretch it over an album.

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    posted 05-09-2007 07:38 AM PT (US)     

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    Yeah, I bought Letters based on a recommendation from Crono/Jyp...err...Kyp, but was thoroughly unimpressed. Couldn't make it through the entire disc without wanting to sporadically get up and go watch an episode of Robot Chicken.

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    posted 05-09-2007 01:36 PM PT (US)     

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    Actually Jer-Bear, I mentioned the theme was nice...which it is.

    But I agree, I can't make it through the disc either with out getting up and watching an episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

    --Brian

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    posted 05-09-2007 01:42 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, I guess I'll be the only one to stick for this one.

    Yes, Flags isn't all that good and is a missed opportunity film-speaking to have a talented composer (like maybe James Newton Howard, or Cliff Eidelman, for example) write a strong dramatic score for the film.

    Letters, however, is a vast improvement: Not only is the film far, far better than it's companion, the theme is also very strong and effective. I can see there being a problem with the overload of it on disc, but in the film it's excellent: Michael Stevens and Kyle Eastwood, IMO, wrote one of the more memorable themes for this film than any other composer has in recent memory; it works great within the film, and it's enjoyable on it's own (I'm writing about the first track, in particular). It's also a relief not to be bombarded with taiko drums and various other asian instruments in this score, since that it'd be the easy way out for any composer with a film like Letters From Iwo Jima; does anyone remember Hans Zimmer's ridiculous Last Samurai? (Nice moments, but it also had some dreadful sections to it.)

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    posted 05-09-2007 11:46 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by sean:
    Letters, however, is a vast improvement: Not only is the film far, far better than it's companion, the theme is also very strong and effective. I can see there being a problem with the overload of it on disc, but in the film it's excellent

    I haven't heard the album, but the LETTERS music as it appeared in the film was one of the things (pacing aside) that really made Eastwood's film drag for me. How anyone with an ear for film music couldn't tire of the countless iterations of one theme is beyond me.

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    posted 05-10-2007 03:02 AM PT (US)     

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    It's worse on album Michael, believe me; like it wasn't enough that it has actually nothing to offer (theme / arrangement / variety / etc - wise) it also has a truly draft sound mixing that sounds like it was recorded on someone's computer and mixed in 10 minutes time.

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    posted 05-10-2007 04:24 AM PT (US)     

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    Although I liked the film Flags a lot. A very powerful film. The score is very subtle and lowkey and very repetitious.

    J.

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    posted 05-10-2007 06:30 PM PT (US)     

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    My father was involved in Iwo Jima as far as picking up surviving marines. I thought both films needed to be told and overall Eastwood did a good job. I just get the feeling that music in his films is not a #1 consideration to him. Films such as The Unforgiven, Million Dollar Baby, and Mystic River still garnered awards regardless of the less than music.

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    posted 05-10-2007 09:47 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by sdtom:
    Films such as The Unforgiven, Million Dollar Baby, and Mystic River still garnered awards regardless of the less than music.

    Unfortunately, I think we're pretty much garaunteed that the people voting to give films awards, in general, don't really give a damn about the scores attached. Just check out the recent Oscar winning "scores" to Brokeback Mountain and Babel, it's pathetic.

    Those Clint Eastwood films you mentioned are all good (even great!: Unforgiven), yet it probably had nothing to do with the music, as far as critical acclaim and receiving awards go; I'm sure most critics added a sentence in their reviews that the big man also took on scoring duties, but wrote nothing substantial about the actual music (that would entail being an actual fan of films and filmmaking).

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