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PeterK FishChip	New poll is up and asks which sequel soundtrack you are looking forward to the most this summer... At World's End Ocean's 13 Order of the Phoenix Shrek 3 Spiderman 3 Granted, there still may be score releases for Shrek 3 and/or Spiderman, but regardless... which one are you most pumped about seeing/hearing???
posted 04-24-2007 12:12 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	Wow, that's a weak bunch (score-wise). I think that honestly, Ocean's 13 is the one I'm looking forward to hearing the most. After all the headaches of Spider-Man 3 (worse hackjob than the last one), yeah--Ocean's 13. Curious for Order Of The Phoenix, given that it's a relative newcomer, but anymore that just means "More Susceptible To Temp Track Borrowings." Shaun
posted 04-24-2007 12:44 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Standard Userer	Sadly none of those even register. If John Powell had stayed with Shrek then maybe that one and based on what Chris Young composed for Spiderman 2 I smell temp tracks written all over Spiderman 3's score.
posted 04-24-2007 12:50 PM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	I find it funny/pathetic that there are so many 3rd sequels (Harry Potter the 5th one?). How about Hollywood create something new and unique for a change, and then let composers create a score that is equally new and unique. I am curious to hear Order of the Phoenix. I love the John Williams' sound, but a fresh perspective is always nice to have in the cards from time to time. I was also looking forward to Young's take on Spiderman 3, but that whole debacle is starting to look sour.
posted 04-24-2007 01:00 PM PT (US)

Kris Standard Userer	Well, these should count as summer sequels: 28 Weeks Later (Murphy) Hostel: Part II (Barr) Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Ottman) Evan Almighty (Debney) Live Free or Die Hard (Beltrami) The Bourne Ultimatum (Powell) Resident Evil: Extinction (Bates) I'm most looking forward to the scores to POTC 3, FF4 2, LFDH and Hostel 2 ... and then there is the big question mark around Harry Potter. [Message edited by Kris on 04-25-2007]
posted 04-25-2007 01:07 AM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	Yikes... I'm going to go with BOURNE for reliable, consistent thriller scoring - if UNITED 93 and BOURNE SUPREMACY scores are anything to go by. Chris Young's score album for SPIDERMAN 3 may be a highlight too. Given the recent relevations of how much interesting Elfman music got dumped from SPIDERMAN 2, and also how Young's style has been cramped on S3, I have little hope for the music as heard in the film. HARRY POTTER is the wild card. Nicholas Hooper could be good or bad for this. Another sequel score that could be interesting is THE GOLDEN AGE. Why Hirshfelder was not brought back for this sequel, I don't know, but for Rahman's sake, I'm interested in this Rahman/Armstrong collaboration. [Message edited by franz_conrad on 04-25-2007]
posted 04-25-2007 03:49 AM PT (US)

Camillu Standard Userer	Do you think Young will change the main titles? Because since the first 2 had nearly identical main title themes, it would be weird to suddenly change direction... Unlike say X-men where all 3 were different but on the same lines.
posted 04-25-2007 06:50 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	While I expect i will be rapped in the mouth for being the voice of dissention, I'm looking forward to Pirates 3 and Harry Potter 5. Also, I've heard from a reliable source that there is going to be a score release for Spider-Man 3, but no label or release date has been determined. Likely, it will be first week of June, as with the first film's score. So while I agree Powell is missed from Shrek the Third, I will look forward to what he does with The Bourne Ultimatum and Lalo Schifrin's presumably playful work on Rush Hour 3. But let's not forget about the other acts opening this summer: John Ottman's FF4: Rise of the Silver Surfer (you know Varese will have this one) Marco Beltrami's Live Free or Die Hard (Len Wiseman and Beltrami on Underworld Evolution turned out pretty well on action cues, but Kamen's absence is abundantly clear) and there's Steve Jablonsky's Transformers. It's not a sequel, but worth attention, I think. Especially since May 15th or thr 29th will present us with additional score tracks by Vince DiCola from the animated 1986 film when Legacy Recordings releases a 20th anniversary edition of the soundtrack.
posted 04-25-2007 07:58 AM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	what is evan almighty
posted 04-25-2007 08:43 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	More important: why is everyone bashing Spidey 3? Is the film already out in some countries? German premiere is on the 30th. I was really looking forward to this, please don't do that to me!
posted 04-25-2007 08:54 AM PT (US)

Kris Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by tjguitar: what is evan almighty Sequel to Bruce Almighty. This time without Jim Carey though. From what I've seen in the trailer this looks like a steaming pile of **** . The score might be interesting given that it's it has to do with a modern Noah's Arc. [Message edited by Kris on 04-25-2007]
posted 04-25-2007 09:34 AM PT (US)

Frodo222 Non-Standard Userer	It looks like I'm alone in this, but I'm looking forward to pretty much all of them! Pirates of the Caribbean At World's End Spider-Man 3(score and inspired by)! Shrek the Third(score) Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer Ocean's 13 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix National Treasure Book of Secrets(Not a summer soundtrack/movie I know, but still awesome!!!)
posted 04-29-2007 01:42 PM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	I'm only looking forward to Order of the Phoenix. Reasons: 1) I don't like Media Ventures. 2) I was tempted to turn off Ocean's 12 due to the pain that Holmes' score was inflicting on my ears. 3) I've been continually unimpressed with Spider-Man, and vowed not to buy the latest score in the saga.
posted 04-29-2007 02:43 PM PT (US)

vdemona Standard Userer	I'm looking forward to the scores for Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, The Bourne Ultimatum and Ocean's 13. Spiderman3? Looking forward to the movie but the score isn't really on my "interest" radar. If it sounds good while I'm watching the film maybe my attitude will change.
posted 04-29-2007 10:30 PM PT (US)

Demetris Christodoulides Standard Userer	None. Sigh...
posted 04-30-2007 04:44 AM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	Just came back from watching Spidey 3. I really hope the score release will be out soon. I really want to hear what Christopher Young wrote for the film because whatever he recorded, there's almost no trace of it left in the picture, except for some Sandman and Venom stuff. Is there hard evidence that elaborate recording sessions actually took place? Already the title sequence is totally off. Question for others who have already seen it: did you also have hte impression that there was something wrong with the mix of the music? Parts of it have that "under water" sound. The main titles have the opening and ending from the previous film, with some Young music sandwiched in between. Sounds completely awkward. And during the film, super-bombastic Elfman stuff like "He's Back" or "At Long Last, Love" with choir and all, are repeated SO often that it made me really sick. Amongst many blatant tracking, one edit that was especially bad was the use of "Parade Attack" in the big climax. And the end titles ... I tell you, the horror, the HORROR! Some soft, tracked Elfman music meanders from the final scene into the credits without meaning or purpose. Some people complain about Return Of The King's endings, but this is far worse. I have to say, what I can tell from the five or ten minutes of Young score that actually made it into the film (and even those pieces were repeated), the score has the potential to greatness (especially the scene in the cathedral sounded great), but you have to be fair and say: in the important scenes, Young is not part of the film.
posted 04-30-2007 07:18 PM PT (US)

Vinylscrubber Standard Userer	I'm always open to life's surprises, but, looking at the stuff mentioned above, jeez, I feel depressed!
posted 05-01-2007 07:17 AM PT (US)

NeoVoyager Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by gkgyver: Just came back from watching Spidey 3. .... Well, GK... not all of life is music, music, music! How was the movie??
posted 05-01-2007 07:52 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Standard Userer	Hate to detract from Spidey 3, which I can't wait for, but I thought i should mention one thing I almost forgotten about. Ascore that could become a gem: Michael Giacchino composing the score for Brad Bird's Disney-Pixar production Ratatouille. Okay, Giacchino writing music for a cartoon about Rat that wants to be a chef in France. Looking forward to the Carl Stalling style musette accordions! [Message edited by Widescreen on 05-01-2007]
posted 05-01-2007 09:06 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Thanks GK for your assessment of the Spidey 3 music. There was something inside me telling me that Raimi and Marvel would screw up the third time around. It's the trilogy curse, and it's struck again (the only exception, of course, is Revenge of the Sith, because that had no problem being head-over-heels better than the previous prequels simply because it was the only one we needed to see). I've always been disappointed with Raimi's handling of the character and his universe and now his temp-track fixations have reached levels worse than Ridley Scott could dream of. That said, I'll be there, at the midnight showing on Thursday with hopes and wishes that I might be proven wrong. NP> David Shire's Zodiac (***/***) - and still the best movie and score of the year!
posted 05-01-2007 10:54 AM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	gkgyver, Dan Goldwasser and a few others disagree about your review of the score in the film.... http://www.scorereviews.com/forum/?topic=2603&page=8#post
posted 05-01-2007 01:30 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	That thread didn't help much. For people who've seen the film, all they can say is the score "rocked" and a few other words? I see the vague "let's make the moviemusic.com forum seem stupid" comment as well. I can't believe this nonsense continues. Is it true that "someone at moviemusic.com claimed there was only 10 minutes of Chris Young score in the film" ?? I find that either hard to believe, or a serious misreporting/misinterpretation of a posting. Why the member's name is not mentioned in that specific message, and moviemusic.com is, identifies the darker subject behind the message. Sad. I am hopeful this will be cleared up.
posted 05-01-2007 02:49 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	I have quoted gkgyver's post there.
posted 05-01-2007 03:46 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Thank you. GK, was your post in jest? Or?
posted 05-01-2007 05:21 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	Lo, the reply: http://www.scorereviews.com/forum/?topic=2603&page=8&post=129576#post129576
posted 05-01-2007 05:47 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Thanks Franzie. For me, I've thought and rethought. There's no time for all this again. There are more positive ways to talk about the Spiderman 3 music than this intergalactic-net-linked discussion has shown. There's a reason every auto-quote function/buttons on message board forums include the name of the author who is being quoted (none of them paraphrase or use the word "claim" either... quoting verbatim is simply easier all around). That's my final answer. GK, only 10 minutes? I'd like to hear more on that.
posted 05-01-2007 09:27 PM PT (US)

Horner Non-Standard Userer	Sound Clips form The Bourne Ultimatum: http://www.amazon.com/Bourne-Ultimatum-John-Powell/dp/B000RPCJRK Perhaps not de best Choices but still very promising with a lot of exotic influence! Can't wait for that score!!! Cheers
posted 07-19-2007 06:49 AM PT (US)

Bond1965 Standard Userer	I'll be seeing THE BOURNE ULTIMATIUM tonight. I'll let you know how Powell's score works in the film. I'm expecting it to be more of the same. (And I don't mean that in a bad way.) James
posted 07-19-2007 09:40 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Bond1965: I'll be seeing THE BOURNE ULTIMATIUM tonight. I'll let you know how Powell's score works in the film. I'm expecting it to be more of the same. (And I don't mean that in a bad way.) James Well, the Supremacy score was a vast improvement on the first score and one of the best of 2004, so logic dictates that the third score be best of all three.
posted 07-19-2007 12:17 PM PT (US)

vdemona Standard Userer	I have to agree with sean. After having experienced some of these summer movie scores I'm not impressed. I was extremely disappointed with the Ocean's 13 soundtrack. The Ocean's 11 soundtrack far better. I'm looking forward to the Bourne Ultimatum. Hopefully that one doesn't disappoint.
posted 07-19-2007 04:32 PM PT (US)

Bond1965 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: Well, the Supremacy score was a vast improvement on the first score and one of the best of 2004, so logic dictates that the third score be best of all three. Well I thought this score was just as exciting as the other two. The themes are basically the same as the other two but the pace on some of the action sequences is VERY intense. Stay for the end credits as after the Moby song there are two pieces by Powell that illustrate this. Oh...and the film is also very good. Great action with an interesting continuation of the Bourne story. There are some excellent actors in supporting roles, even minor the minor ones. If you liked THE BOURNE SUPREMACY, you'll like this one too. On the downside, now that Decca has the rights to the score release it doesn't look to be as long as the prior two unless those 9 score tracks are long. Odd too because unlike the last two scores, this one was recorded in England. Here's the tracklist: 1. Six Weeks Ago 2. Tangiers 3. Thinking Of Marie 4. Assets And Targets 5. Faces Without Names 6. Waterloo 7. Coming Home 8. Man Verses Man 9. Jason Is Reborn 10. Extreme Ways (Bourne's Ultimatum) - Moby James
posted 07-21-2007 12:55 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	I'd bet on some of the tracks being pretty lengthy. If you went by greater number of tracks equals greater running time, than Hans Zimmer's often 5 track length scores would be the shortest around (they're some of the longest ... catch my drift: track 2 on Crimson Tide is nearly 25 minutes in length!).
posted 07-21-2007 01:58 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Bourne Ultimatum track lengths: 1. Six Weeks Ago (4:31) 2. Tangiers (7:40) 3. Thinking Of Marie (3:51) 4. Assets And Targets (7:18) 5. Faces Without Names (3:31) 6. Waterloo (10:38) 7. Coming Home (3:19) 8. Man Verses Man (5:46) 9. Jason Is Reborn (4:04) 10. Extreme Ways (4:22) I'm happy with that.
posted 07-24-2007 09:31 AM PT (US)

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