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      Klaus slam dunks TMNT. Where's the score album?

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    Topic:   Klaus slam dunks TMNT. Where's the score album?

     Jeron
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    Alright. Saturday night I saw TMNT for the second time in a row, my first time w/ the opening day "crowd." Actually, both times the theater was relatively full... not Harry Potter or Star Wars full, but well sold nonetheless. Looks like TMNT is ruling the box office this weekend so far, and I'm very pleased; I hope the success continues.

    When TMNT lost Beltrami off its roster, I too was a bit upset. I really wanted to hear what he might say w/ this kind of project. But, alas, it wasn't meant to be. So whatever, we move on. Then, Klaus swoops in and is billed as the film's new composer talent. The fans (that care) are split, some upset that they wouldn't get the Beltrami score they were hoping for, other's highly skeptical about Badelt in general. And then Badelt fans, out of the woodwork, totally excited.

    I'll be the first to raise my hand and say I was one of the skeptics. I've enjoyed most of Badelt's film scores, even the "edginess" of The Time Machine, if you catch my drift. It didn't bother me too much. But quite plainly, his music for TMNT rocked. I'm sure everyone in their mind's eye has some sort of idea what Ninja Turtle music might sound like... though, most can't articulate it when asked to describe. Badelt nailed it. He's written what's nearly a wall-to-wall action score, rich in memorable, distinct themes, while also handling the delicate balance of sensitive, family/conflict/relationship dynamics present in the story. The movie is all that much better for it.

    To me, TMNT has a stronger, more pertinent message of family and unity than even The Incredibles, and IMAGI's great animation gives the guys at Pixar a run for their money, no joke.

    There's currently a song soundtrack out for TMNT, with two score cuts by Badelt. Where's our score album? This feels like it'd make a great title for Varese. Here's to hoping they've put a bid in for the release, or are at least considering. Bob Townson, if you're reading this, please give us some good news!

    Jeron

    NP - 1 of 2 score cuts from the TMNT song soundtrack

    [Message edited by Jeron on 03-25-2007]

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    posted 03-25-2007 02:13 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Totally agree 100%. I had a blast with this one.

    Movie was totally fun and good times. Sweet animation and some great score cues.

    Bring it Varese!

    A good movie that nails down the importance of family, friends and teamwork. Some really good stuff in this movie.

    --Brian

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    posted 03-25-2007 02:42 AM PT (US)     

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    I haven't seen the flick (probably won't until it is on FREE tv), but simply based on the two, measily, score tracks from the soundtrack album...I'd say this is one they can't keep "unreleased."

    Judging by your two reactions the score, as heard in film, must be monumentally better.

    I like Badelt's stuff, more often than not, but what's offered on the soundtrack is subpar for him.

    Christopher

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    posted 03-25-2007 09:43 AM PT (US)     

     rkeaveney
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    If people need a movie about talking turtles -- whose only solution to every problem is a spin kick -- to remind you about family unity, then there is little hope for our future!

    Judging by the two score cuts on the OST, it sounds like someone just dialed up the "Asian" plug-in, pressed "generate" and walked away for a glass of wine!

    Ryan

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    posted 03-25-2007 11:18 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Oh come on guys. Anyone expecting the second coming from TMNT is just ridiculous. I actually went into the movie w/ pretty low expectations. The franchise was a huge part of my Saturday mornings while growing up. It was 100% pure nostalgic fun, and Badelt delivered a score that worked well. It didn't need to be a work of genius, but it functioned the way a film score should. I may not have enjoyed it as much had it not accompanied the same movie. But in the context of how it all worked together, it was good times.

    What's wrong w/ a movie "about talking turtles -- whose only solution to every problem is a spin kick -- to remind you about family unity"? LOL, it's a CG animated cartoon no less. That's just silly to denigrate it like that. The film at no point promised anything more than what it delivered, and for that, I was happy with what I got.

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    posted 03-25-2007 12:56 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Ryan, please post again after that other family unity film is released next weekend. The one with slightly-more-serious-than-turtle stars like singing frogs, dinos, spaceships and... evil bowler hats. It will save the family as we know it, despite Danny Elfman's score being the same kind of dialed-in thing from him.

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    posted 03-25-2007 09:05 PM PT (US)     

     rkeaveney
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    Don't let Disney's ROBINSONS album color your opinion of Elfman's score. The entire thang is a much more dynamic experience, including some vibrant action material in the final reel, as well as some truly epic choral work only hinted at on the OST.

    Ryan

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    posted 03-25-2007 10:17 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Yeah yeah... predictable response.

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    posted 03-26-2007 12:01 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by rkeaveney:

    Judging by the two score cuts on the OST, it sounds like someone just dialed up the "Asian" plug-in, pressed "generate" and walked away for a glass of wine!

    Ryan


    I feel I need to shatter a myth here. Klaus Badelt has at least 100x the talent required for this score.

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    posted 03-26-2007 01:06 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    lol

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    posted 03-26-2007 06:41 AM PT (US)     

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    Yea Im intrigued by this too, hopefully we will get a scored release, all I can think of right now is the old cartoon theme song.

    sd


    ..."heroes in a half-shell , turtle power"

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    posted 03-26-2007 07:12 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Southall:

    I feel I need to shatter a myth here. Klaus Badelt has at least 100x the talent required for this score.

    It's a shame he only uses 2x that talent.


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    posted 03-26-2007 08:24 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Ryan, you mean to suggest I cannot judge Elfman's score based on the album, but you can judge Badelt's score based on the album? This is not fair. I am going to report you to PEFTOFC (people for the ethical and fair treatment of fish chips). Simply. Not. Fair.

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    posted 03-26-2007 09:19 AM PT (US)     

     rkeaveney
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    I judge Badelt on all the scores he is credited as "composer", not necessarily just the ones where he actually wrote music.

    Ryan

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    posted 03-26-2007 01:20 PM PT (US)     

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    Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

    TMNT isn't out here yet, but I'm definitely seeing it.
    Based on the two score excerpts, I can't see how this one is any different from other Badelt/Zimmer/MV stuff.
    Actually, it sounds like something Zimmer could have written himself (not saying he has, before some of you think about jumping in here).

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    posted 03-30-2007 11:53 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Don't judge the music on the basis of two cues. I'm not saying the music is doing anything new or revolutionary, but I enjoyed the melodies and I think the score was effective in supporting the film. My enjoyment of the music is also tied to the fact I enjoyed the movie as a whole.

    [Message edited by Jeron on 04-04-2007]

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    posted 04-04-2007 09:05 PM PT (US)     

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    Hi ya'll it's been several and it seems to me that there is still no news of a TMNT score as far as I realized. It will probably be out with a promo or unofficial complete score disc that would likely be up in a blog. oh well.

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    posted 10-04-2007 09:03 PM PT (US)     

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    Klaus did a good job on this. A nice 40 minute release would showcase this score very well.

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    posted 10-05-2007 09:23 AM PT (US)     

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    Didn't Klaus say in an interview that this score was going to be released by Milan?

    Clayton

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    posted 10-05-2007 10:34 AM PT (US)     

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    Yes he did

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    posted 10-05-2007 04:14 PM PT (US)     

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    I must make a plea to for users when using acronyms to state what the abbreviation stands for the first time you use it, at least.

    Shortening a title to save time and space is pointless if its not a common immediately understood abreviation.

    TMNT?
    WTFITIDKBINACA? (What the frack is that? I don't know because it's not a common abbreviation)

    OK, I got Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from about the 7th post here, so thanks to that guy or gal.

    Please, please, when you use an abbreviation, please tell us what it stands for - preferable the first time you use it.
    Please

    PS please

    This is my pet hate, IHISFM!

    [Message edited by CaptPorridge on 10-05-2007]

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    posted 10-05-2007 04:20 PM PT (US)     

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    Of course in this case TMNT is not so much a shortening of the title, but the actual name of the film…

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    posted 10-05-2007 04:52 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Squiddybop:
    Of course in this case [b]TMNT is not so much a shortening of the title, but the actual name of the film…[/B]

    Yeah... it's credited as TMNT... so I don't have a problem with calling this one TMNT. Although the other day, someone mentioned TDAT... I thought it was slang for something, but it turns out they were talking about The Day After Tomorrow. Same with FF: ROTSS, POE... I am waiting for someone to go FOE (for 1408)...

    Clayton

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    posted 10-06-2007 10:33 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    quote:
    Originally posted by CaptPorridge:
    This is my pet hate, IHISFM!

    Uhhhhhh... two things: Welcome to last March, first of all. And... perhaps... get a life?

    The Shocking TRUTH (OMG): http://tmnt.warnerbros.com/

    TTYL!
    Jeron

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    posted 10-06-2007 10:44 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    LOL ROTF

    --B

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    posted 10-06-2007 04:40 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:

    Uhhhhhh... two things: Welcome to last March, first of all. And... perhaps... get a life?


    Get a life?

    Because I didn't know what TMNT was?

    It was hardly a huge mistake to assume it was an abbrevuation, and it is actually.
    I mean if you don't know that was the title, how would you know that TMNT refered to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie?

    God, if all movies were named like that, no one would ever know what anyone was talking about

    It may be the name of the movie, but it hardly tells me which movie it is if I don'

    I was half joking, but I've seen quite a few other abreviations of movie's titles on forums that leaves the name of the movie a mystery

    That annoys me, I can't help it!
    ITBYGFY

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    posted 10-06-2007 05:56 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by CaptPorridge:
    ITBYGFY

    Such language!

    And I completely understand your frustrations with the over-initialization of movie titles nowadays (can't wait to see TAOJJBTCRF!!!) I just found your post ironic considering the movie title in question.

    [Message edited by Squiddybop on 10-07-2007]

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    posted 10-07-2007 02:24 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Squiddybop:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by CaptPorridge:
    [b]ITBYGFY
    <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Such language!

    I just found your post ironic considering the movie title in question.

    [Message edited by Squiddybop on 10-07-2007][/B]


    Sorry that was rather rude language!
    IPWHA (It probably won't happen again)


    Oh yeah, you're right. That was very ironic. Me complaining about abbreviations when he used the actual name of the movie. I had no idea that was the name of the movie.. So bad example.

    Aplogies to the op, obviously my rant doesn't apply to him in this case.

    I just remember a few cases where an abbreviation was given out of context and with no explanation and was reminded of that when I saw TMNT in the thread title.

    Still, that's a terrible marketing decision.

    Anyway, back to music, which I haven't heard but am curious about
    It's good hey?

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    posted 10-07-2007 04:24 AM PT (US)     

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    I understand and agree with you %100 CaptPorridge,
    I've been on this board for a long time now and I still have trouble figuring out what these guys are talking about!
    I knew about TMNT in this case, but it was a while before I knew what ROTS (Revenge of the Sith) was, I actually read that for what it was "Rots",. It was'nt until the 3rd post that figured out it was a refernceto Stars Wars.
    If you're not a Lord of the Rings fan (at all), can you figure out LOTR:FOTR? I could'nt at first.
    The full title of the movie should be at least stated in the topic or the first time its used in the message, just like in a textbook.

    And anyone planning on tellimg me to Get a Life, watch out, I might use it to take yours! J/K

    Anyway I g2g ttyl
    BFF, Tim :-)

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    posted 10-07-2007 02:12 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by CaptPorridge:
    Still, that's a terrible marketing decision.

    Probably wasn't - investors on the film made 3x their money back. Besides, either you're hip with pop culture or you aren't. If you aren't, you'll probably not watch a Ninja Turtles movie to begin with. If you are, you should be smart enough to either figure out the abbreviation, or hey (what a concept) you have have used the abbreviation yourself. I'm pretty sure the title didn't hurt the film's success.

    TMNT also had to differentiate itself from the previously titled "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" live action film. Giving the movie a subtitle such as "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Curse of the Ancient Monsters" is just unacceptable. Subtitles are stupid. Always, always, always try to stick to a simple title, something your audience can remember w/o thinking too hard. The kids got it. The 20 and 30 something's that grew up watching the cartoon and playing the video games got it. That's all you need, cause those are the audiences (and their children) who'll be going to see the film.

    And to answer your question, yeah - the score is pretty fun. If you enjoy animated films in the vein of Pixar and Blue Sky, I'd recommend checking it out. Imagi did a fantastic job w/ the animation, and while Marco Beltrami was originally slated to score the film (and apparently did, but his music was too dark), Klaus Badelt stepped in and did a serviceable job.

    [Message edited by Jeron on 10-07-2007]

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    posted 10-07-2007 03:24 PM PT (US)     

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    I liked the first Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles movie better. I wish the newer ones would have gone in the same direction.
    And I have no problems with subtitles.

    Now Quick! Somebody guess this current movie title! "TAOJJBTCRF" If you don't know you are not hip!

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    posted 10-07-2007 05:12 PM PT (US)     

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    I'll take a subtitle over a bunch of dumb intials any day.

    TAOJJBTCRF

    I'll recuse myself from guessing, since I already mentioned I can't wait to see it.

    Glad to know I'm hip though, or at least still potentially hip.

    NP: Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto (Hideyuki Fukasawa)

    [Message edited by Squiddybop on 10-07-2007]

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