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Topic: J. N. Howard, Blood Diamond, Collateral, Interpreter

John C Winfrey

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Although I like this composer very much and have around 58 of his CDs and several tapes and a couple of LPs on him, there are some things I have noticed.Overall, I like most of his output. His action writing is very similiar in most of his scores with the similiar instrumentation and effects. Not nearly as varied as was Goldsmiths. His main title music is miminal and not developed in many scores, unlike some of the other major composers we all like. One of his strengths is his very good percussion. I really like a lot of this especially in scores like Collateral, Interpreter, Blood Diamond, Waterworld.
Some of his music like Sixth Sense and Stir of Echoes work very well in the films and make those films even better, but are hard to listen to on their own away from the films. But thats what they were written for. I like King Kong, Hidalgo and Blood Diamond all quite a bit, and all three have simple but good themes that work well. Vertical Limit is a very nice score also for a very tired film. Scenery good but story worn out and tired. The score far superior though. I liked that one a lot. Dave is excellent as his most of his scores like that, Emperor and Junior, etc. Wyatt Earp is very nice and I like Outbreak and Just Cause. His animated stuff is pretty good too. Dinosaur has some great cues. Space Jam is kind of fragmented but has some good stuff. Peter Pan and Atlantis too. Ovcrall, his output is pretty good. I rank him pretty high of all the current composers, but on my all time list he ranks around 15 with several of the Golden Age composers ahead of him, Goldsmith, Williams and a few others there also. However, there arent all that many today that I look forward to each time, he is one of those I do. Have not gotten Lady in the Water yet, but look forward to it.Best, take care, J.
posted 02-01-2007 12:22 PM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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Is that really you, John? This is an unusual post.As for me, I think JNH is a little on the over-rated side. He has a great output and is usually very solid on the scores he delivers, but I only re-visit about three of his scores (Snow Falling on Cedars, Signs, and The Village).
posted 02-01-2007 03:42 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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John, of the current crop of living composers, I'd say he is about my favorite current composer. He hasn't replaced some no longer around like Poledouris, Goldsmith, or Bernstein, but I do enjoy most of his scores. My favorite is probably Dinosaur. Great themes in that score. I enjoy most of the other scores that you mentioned.
posted 02-01-2007 06:06 PM PT (US) 
sean

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Sorry, John, but I, too, am confused; I was actually reminded of zimmerito for the first time in a while reading the opening of this thread.nuts! You're very cool, but quit it with these holier-than-thou posts about great composers, like Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard--they make no sense, because you rave about them in private and pile on heaps of praise, too; who cares if people on the board know you like their music, and not just Marco Beltrami and Alexnder Frenchsplat! And where the frak is my Casino Royale iTunes score!!?? (that's the core of the issue, haha!)
[Message edited by sean on 02-04-2007]
posted 02-04-2007 10:56 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

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Alexnuder Frenchsplat, LOL!There's nothing confusing about John's post. You bet, it's the biggest single paragraph he's written (or at least I've read), but it was clear through and through. Maybe too concise for young whippersnappers... but it reads like a mini overview of nearly all of JNH, except for his 80s work where his music really shows maturing elements that are still apparent in his current scoring. JNH is likely in my top 10... what a neat career, with more to come.
posted 02-04-2007 11:48 PM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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quote:
Originally posted by sean:
Sorry, John, but I, too, am confused; I was actually reminded of zimmerito for the first time in a while reading the opening of this thread.nuts! You're very cool, but quit it with these holier-than-thou posts about great composers, like Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard--they make no sense, because you rave about them in private and pile on heaps of praise, too; who cares if people on the board know you like their music, and not just Marco Beltrami and Alexnder Frenchsplat! And where the frak is my Casino Royale iTunes score!!?? (that's the core of the issue, haha!)
HAHA; hell, even my own mother claims I'm getting too cynical with my film music these days. And I've always thought that JNH was a solid composer and he will continue to do so, I'm just not as impressed as others are. Color me blind, I guess. I guess the biggest prasie I've layed upon him was at King Kong's release; and to be honest, I haven't listened to it since. He's done better action material (i.e. Waterworld). I am interested in Blood Diamond though. I haven't seen the film and I was hoping the score was better than The Interpreter. Any thoughts outside of John's?
And relax on that last one, Sean-san; it'll be there shortly.

posted 02-05-2007 09:46 AM PT (US) 
sean

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HAHA! Nice, Peter!Yeah, it's true, John is making sense. The zimmerito thang that I mean occurs when someone does exactly that, bring nearly everthing up at once in an almost crazy fashion; yeah, John's right, JNH is good composer, but ehhhhhhhhh... No matter, it made me laugh tons, so that can't be a bad thing.
posted 02-05-2007 10:48 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
