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tjguitar Standard Userer	http://www.varesesarabande.com /upcoming.asp?list%5FPagingMove=%3E&ListAbsolutePage=1&qfkeyword=&artist=&title=&description=&upcoming%5Fid=&size= Coming March 13th. quote: Based on the actual case files of one of the most intriguing unsolved crimes in the nation�s history, ZODIAC is a thriller from David Fincher, director of SEVEN, FIGHT CLUB and PANIC ROOM. As a serial killer terrifies the San Francisco Bay Area and taunts police with his ciphers and letters, investigators in four jurisdictions search for the murderer. The case will become an obsession for four men as their lives and careers are built and destroyed by the endless trail of clues. The film stars Jake Gyllenhaal, Mark Ruffalo, Robert Downey, Jr. ZODIAC features the exciting return to the cinema of composer David Shire. It�s a darkly mysterious and beautiful score bringing back memories of crime thrillers of the 70s and Shire�s best, most probing work. Specially recorded for this CD is a piano theme Mr. Shire composed for the film but was not used as part of the final score. Paramount Pictures and Warner Bros. open ZODIAC nationwide on March 2. Catalog #: 302 066 799 2 Release Date: 03/13/07 [Message edited by tjguitar on 01-29-2007]
posted 01-29-2007 07:55 PM PT (US)

Alexborn007 Standard Userer	Specially recorded for this CD is a piano theme Mr. Shire composed for the film but was not used as part of the final score. Sold. [Message edited by Alexborn007 on 01-29-2007]
posted 01-29-2007 08:07 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	AWESOME! Shire's The Taking Of Pelham One. Two. Three. easily ranks as one of the best scores ever composed, so his return with Zodiac is tremendously exciting!!!
posted 01-29-2007 10:17 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	So there's enough music for a CD to be worth it? Great.
posted 01-30-2007 12:14 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Already the best score of 2007! When Fincher settled upom Shire last year I was a bit disappointed he wasn't back with Howard Shore (I was a David Shire amateur at the time) . . . but now, I'm definitely there. And Sean is more than right.
posted 01-30-2007 09:07 AM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	Excellent news. The score (what score there is, which isn't much) is much more in keeping with The Conversation and All The President's Men, so don't expect any crazy 12-tone action cues. Shaun
posted 01-31-2007 01:01 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Still some good news (hell, David Shire or Dave Grusin on anything new is great news). I was thinking Fincher might downplay the score in favor of source music from the Seventies; am I right in this assumption?
posted 01-31-2007 01:24 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	Apparently two sequences in particular are very strongly driven by use of period songs.
posted 01-31-2007 07:25 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	I just got finished reading some technical specs on the film (always a blast with a Fincher picture) and I have to say I'm a little disappointed in his accepting of the digital format. Apparently, the entire film is the first to be captured entirely without celluloid film. Although Michael Mann's, Bryan Singer's, and Mel Gibson's recent films were all filmed in digital and were compressed into HDCAM tape. I'm a strong advocate against the so-called "resourcefulness" of using digital over actual film. Sure, it may be cheaper and easier; but the problem is that I can definitely tell. I think it works in Mann's pictures simply because he's approaching his films as pseudo-documentaries and at least he still has a strong sense of style that can be applied to good use within the parameters of the limited scope that digital offers. As much as I respected Singer's Superman Returns there were moments where the digital filming showed though (particularly in scenes involving motion). I saw the same in the trailers for Gibson's Apolcalypto and wasn't too interested in seeing it (even before that). But, all technical faux pas I have aside, I definitely plan on supporting Fincher come early March. I'm looking forward to the film even if the "dumped on" release date might usually dissuade me.
posted 01-31-2007 08:26 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	All I'll say is that if Varese doesn't put "Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan on the soundtrack, they should get out of the business. Shaun P.S. Think of this score like a 70's score, because there's not a whole lot of wallpaper for the sake of wallpaper.
posted 02-01-2007 09:49 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Shaun, should I be thinking of this as a 70s score by Shire, a particular 1977 score written in the pop lexicon of the time... "Salsation" or "Manhattan Skyline"? I am scared by fever.
posted 02-01-2007 09:59 AM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by nuts_score: I Sure, it may be cheaper and easier; but the problem is that I can definitely tell. I can assure you - when Dion Beebe talks about shooting HD, he's usually not talking about how much easier it is than film. These cameras don't like going outside controlled studio conditions apparently.
posted 02-01-2007 01:17 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by franz_conrad: I can assure you - when Dion Beebe talks about shooting HD, he's usually not talking about how much easier it is than film. These cameras don't like going outside controlled studio conditions apparently. That's why I'm very fond of Beebe's work with Michael Mann. I'm just tired of this Robert Rodriguez non-sense. His films have never been good and digital doesn't make them any better no matter what he thinks. The digital still has to be transfered to 35mm format for distribution to the cinemas so most of the time he comes off like a "future of cinema" bigot; But Mann's film have exceptional camera work thanks to Beebe and I support them both in the endeavors they are pursuing with digital filmmaking and style. And Rodriguez should also stop letting his son write his films for him.
posted 02-01-2007 03:36 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	I'm a little more comfortable with Mann and Fincher doing it than Singer, Lucas and Rodriguez though, because Mann and Fincher have a history of being very strong as visual directors. (Whatever the merits of their work, Singer, Lucas and Rodriguez are more defined by the editing of their films than the photography.) If they shift mediums, it's probably for reasons other than cost - it's like Walter Murch editing on Final Cut Pro, it's a new challenge. (Having said that, I would LOVE to see another Mann film done with HEAT's bleak, minimal approach to composition and lighting. Now that's film!)
posted 02-01-2007 07:45 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by franz_conrad: I'm a little more comfortable with Mann and Fincher doing it than Singer, Lucas and Rodriguez though, because Mann and Fincher have a history of being very strong as visual directors. (Whatever the merits of their work, Singer, Lucas and Rodriguez are more defined by the editing of their films than the photography.) If they shift mediums, it's probably for reasons other than cost - it's like Walter Murch editing on Final Cut Pro, it's a new challenge. (Having said that, I would LOVE to see another Mann film done with HEAT's bleak, minimal approach to composition and lighting. Now that's film!) Agreed on everything here. Dante Spinotti's lighting work in Heat is a text-book example of masterwork. What a beautiful film. And I totally agree on the Singer/editing comment. As hard as I can be on Ottman as a composer, his editing is some of the best in recent times. I really feel that the first X-Men film could greatly benefit if he wasn't too occupied with that forgettable Urban Legend sequel he decided to do (though is had a good score).
posted 02-01-2007 10:24 PM PT (US)

Thor Standard Userer	I�ve said it before...I love it when good directors pull out the masters of the past for their music. Ratner did it with Schifrin on RUSH HOUR. And now Fincher - one of my favourite directors of all time - does it with Shire. Gotta love it.
posted 02-02-2007 05:40 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: Shaun, should I be thinking of this as a 70s score by Shire, a particular 1977 score written in the pop lexicon of the time... "Salsation" or "Manhattan Skyline"? I am scared by fever. Ut oh. I'm going to have a "Manhattan Skyline" earworm in my head all day today after reading this! Argh!
posted 02-02-2007 06:24 AM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	Let's just say, as the credits rolled, there was a familiar arrangement of "Night On Bald Mountain" (here retitled "Night On San Francisco Chronicle c/o Paul Avery Mountain") listed amongst all of the source music. Shaun
posted 02-02-2007 11:07 AM PT (US)

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