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nuts_score Standard Userer	One of my top three most anticipated films this Fall - Brian DePalma's The Black Dahlia - has finally got some news in terms of the score. Silva (you heard correct) has some info at their site about the album release and Dan Goldwasser has recently included a First Listen article at his site. Isham's score sounds absolutely perfect on first impression: evoking the time period correctly and setting it well within the universe of James Ellroy historical fiction (listen for the similar Goldsmith LA Confidential orchestrations and inspirations). NP> Isham's The Black Dahlia [Message edited by nuts_score on 08-30-2006]
posted 08-26-2006 11:02 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	I just have to say this: I think the film looks dreadful! Weak photog, bad casting. I guess they're selling the lurid aspect of the story (they can't be selling it on DePalma's worthless pedigree), which is probably all DAHLIA has going for it. Ryan
posted 08-27-2006 07:38 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: I just have to say this: I think the film looks dreadful! Weak photog, bad casting. I guess they're selling the lurid aspect of the story (they can't be selling it on DePalma's worthless pedigree), which is probably all DAHLIA has going for it. Ryan Thanks Ryan! I'm sure you're right! Boy howdy I wish that Brian Tyler would've gotten to score this!
posted 08-27-2006 08:36 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	I'm sure Vilmos Zsigmond enjoys your photography comments as well!
posted 08-27-2006 08:38 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Edit. [Message edited by sean on 08-30-2006]
posted 08-27-2006 08:40 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	Brian Tyler scoring BLACK DAHLIA would be like pouring perfume on a pig. Ryan
posted 08-27-2006 08:46 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: Brian Tyler scoring BLACK DAHLIA would be like pouring perfume on a pig. Ryan You can say that again brother!
posted 08-27-2006 08:52 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: Brian Tyler scoring BLACK DAHLIA would be like pouring perfume on a pig. Cheap perfume one one hell of a pig, probably.
posted 08-28-2006 01:42 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: Cheap perfume on one hell of a pig, probably. There's the spirit! Way to go Marian!
posted 08-28-2006 01:52 PM PT (US)

Dylan Standard Userer	edited [Message edited by Dylan on 08-28-2006]
posted 08-28-2006 05:34 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	The good old, I'll-contribute-5%-of-an-idea comeback to your-95%-put-down! Shoulda sat this one out, Marian. Ryan
posted 08-28-2006 06:38 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	The idea wasn't my point. The content was.
posted 08-28-2006 06:41 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: The good old, I'll-contribute-5%-of-an-idea comeback to your-95%-put-down! Shoulda sat this one out, Marian. Ryan I wished you would have sat this one out, Ryan.
posted 08-28-2006 07:19 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: The idea wasn't my point. The content was. Natch! Now let's get talking about DePalma's and Isham's The Black Dahlia and leave Ryan in the corner to imagine what it would be like if he actually liked things.
posted 08-28-2006 07:21 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Local release is next week, so we should get some discussion once peoples listen to it.... http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/blackdahlia
posted 08-30-2006 10:19 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Thanks FishChip!
posted 08-30-2006 10:24 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Edit. [Message edited by sean on 08-30-2006]
posted 08-30-2006 03:21 PM PT (US)

Bond1965 Standard Userer	Hey Peter...you wonder why I rarely post here anymore? See above. James
posted 08-30-2006 03:51 PM PT (US)

MarkA Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by nuts_score: [b] I wished you would have sat this one out, Ryan.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Here, I'll add 5%-of-an-idea to nuts's 95%-put-down: Ryan, do us all a favor and sit the rest of the year out... please? I know Dan Goldwasser doesn't want you here, so that counts! [/B] Amen and Amen.
posted 08-30-2006 03:53 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: Local release is next week, so we should get some discussion once peoples listen to it.... http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/blackdahlia I'll probably wait for the movie first, which fortunately doesn't come out much later here than in the US - I should be able to see it in early October. As I said before, there are still plenty of promising movies ahead this year.
posted 08-30-2006 04:46 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Bond1965: Hey Peter...you wonder why I rarely post here anymore? See above. James Just avoid the threads that Ryan comes out of the woodwork to descride his inevitable hate for one thing or another and I'm sure we'll all treat you just fine, James. Sean has a little history with Ryan's vitriolic ravings; so just let him (and recently, me) get it out of our systems and we'll get to talking film music. And, like Peter said, the score's release is upon us (and the film opened up Venice today) so I'm sure when everyone has a chance to hear more of the score (to some people, Dan's thirty second clips mean nothing, unfortunately) this thread will pick back up with actual film and score discussion. Hopefully you can join us at that time and share your thoughts. Until then, happy listening! NP> Beltrami's The Omen (**/***)
posted 08-30-2006 04:49 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	From what I've seen of this so far, it doesnt look too good. The book was very good and the old film on TV long ago with Efrem Zimbalist Jr and Lucie Arnaz was very good. A very tastefully done TV film from 1875. J.
posted 08-30-2006 04:51 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by John C Winfrey: From what I've seen of this so far, it doesnt look too good. Ok, John. Why doesn't it look good? Even Ryan gave some dull excuses. [Message edited by nuts_score on 08-30-2006]
posted 08-30-2006 04:57 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: And so, as your friggin FishChippin administrator, through the power vested in Dan Goldwasser, everyone in favor of banning Ryan, Sean and Nutso over this lurid thread say "Ohh-noooooo." Ohh-noooooo! Oh . . . wait. Peter, don't you (as both High FishChip and administrator) have the ability to delete the hate-spewing posts? After all, the reason I created this post was because I'm much looking forward to the film (as an Ellroy and DePalma fan) and even I didn't expect to be caught off guard by Ryan. Sometimes you just encounter people who scrape their nails against the chalkboard for you and I just can't help but become defense-ful (see also: my last post replying to John). I've let you know how much respect I have for the site, and I'd hate to go down because I was protecting my thread (with nice, inciteful links I might add).
posted 08-30-2006 05:03 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	I understand where you are coming from, Nutso. My post that you quoted (that I quickly pulled because your post to James was posted when I was posting my post) was lightedheard in nature, but nullified all the same once you addressed James in your post. I prefer the parties involved should address each other... I hate being pulled in publically when specific expectations are not met between unhappy individuals. I appreciate your attention, and hope all others involved do as well. And darnit, those who've proven themselves fools, I hope it sticks with 'em for next time. [Message edited by PeterK on 08-30-2006]
posted 08-30-2006 05:09 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	They don't call you FishChip for nothing . . . uh, FishChip.
posted 08-30-2006 06:17 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	I don't get it -- I post comments to the contrary of "nuts" and I get lambasted... Yet somehow I'm the culprit? I'm sorry if I don't have slavish praise for FEMME FATALE, MISSION TO MARS, SNAKE EYES... Certainly not the work of a director on a hot streak. If we're all supposed to agree with each other perhaps Peter should pass out the Kool-Aid? And Sean, who cares about what Dan Goldwasser wants. He doesn't pull my strings, and last I checked he was run out on rails from this msg board. If that's the kind of company you keep then that's your business. Ryan
posted 08-30-2006 09:48 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Oooook! Finito. The chalkboards have been erased, this one is done.... time to pop a mentos.
posted 08-30-2006 09:57 PM PT (US)

Thor Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by John C Winfrey: The book was very good and the old film on TV long ago with Efrem Zimbalist Jr and Lucie Arnaz was very good. A very tastefully done TV film from 1875. Wow, that's one early TV film...
posted 08-31-2006 02:33 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by John C Winfrey: From what I've seen of this so far, it doesnt look too good. The book was very good and the old film on TV long ago with Efrem Zimbalist Jr and Lucie Arnaz was very good. A very tastefully done TV film from 1875. J. Holy cow how did I not realize that?! John, you're older than I thought. You guys must have had ace technology to make simple TV productions out of events that occur in the future. I blame the changes on Roosevelt's New Deal; it's that simple .
posted 08-31-2006 09:39 AM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: If we're all supposed to agree with each other perhaps Peter should pass out the Kool-Aid? What flavour?
posted 08-31-2006 11:05 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Dinko: What flavour? Grape is good; but I'm sure with the little ones, Peter only has apple juice.
posted 08-31-2006 10:10 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Nuts, just a matter of personal taste. You see, I went to see Munich and was very disappointed. But I should have known, because the R rating slop was going to be in there from previous experiences. I preferred the old TV film to that one too although parts of it were very suspenseful. Just a personal preference. You go see it and enjoy. J.
posted 09-02-2006 08:02 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by rkeaveney: And Sean, who cares about what Dan Goldwasser wants. He doesn't pull my strings, and last I checked he was run out on rails from this msg board. If that's the kind of company you keep then that's your business. Ryan Obviously, that Dan part was a joke; and you seem to care (you devoted 40 words to it). I still have those recording sessions from Shrek if you still want 'em.
posted 09-02-2006 01:18 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	I may give this one a shot. We'll see. This reminds me of the debate we had on Munich awhile back too. Once again I preferred the old TV film 21 Hours at Munich to Spielbergs. Just one view, don't get riled now. LOL. The old 1975 TV film Who is the Black Dahlia? with Efrem Zimbalist Jr and Lucie Arnaz is quite good. Very well done. There were a lot of very well made TV movies in the 70s like this. Included in those were The Raid on Entebbe with Charles Bronson and an all star cast which came out within a few months after the actual raid. There was also another version, though not as good which came out quickly too. The one mentioned here was the better version though. It also starred James Woods, Peter Finch, John Saxon, Robert Loggia, Martin Balsam, etc. Exc film. and Yaphet Kotto as Amin. He did the role very well too. J.
posted 09-06-2006 10:09 PM PT (US)

Dylan Standard Userer	I know that this release was delayed from last week, but now I hear that its been delayed yet another week. Is this true, or was has it indeed been released today? Thanks.
posted 09-12-2006 12:43 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Silva's distribution is spotty. Some places are getting in this week, others not yet. My supplier happens to be in the "not yet" column! It should be here soon though.
posted 09-12-2006 01:52 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	In and shipping! http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/blackdahlia
posted 09-15-2006 12:31 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Just saw it. The movie was captivating. I'm going to have to see it again to really comprehend every detail - there's a lot to absorb and I reached saturation point about halfway through. That said, Isham's score was spectacular. It's one of the best scores I've ever heard from the man, and is truly one I look forward to owning. Highly recommended. Jeron
posted 09-16-2006 03:51 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	Still very much interested. Even though I'm completely tired of him these days, I even would have been looking for to a Horner score (as originally announced). De Palma has a tendency of getting excellent scores from any composer (even when they're not so interesting musically to make me buy the CD, they still work very well in the movie).
posted 09-16-2006 05:47 AM PT (US)

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