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Topic: To Be Star Trek, Or Not To Be Star Trek....

PeterK

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I'll admit I'm not a very big Star Trek fan (thanks to some -literally- big-time idiots who are...), I've just listened to some illegitimate Star Trek music that kept a fair amount of interest going. This is illegitimate because these scores were written for Star Trek but never used, not because this is some crap downloaded off of [insert latest fave bootleg network name here]. Music by George Duning, Joseph Mullendore and Jerry Fielding:http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/symphonicsuitesfromst
Those who may be ST fans (Trekkers? Trekkies?), what say you? Is this sacrilege, or is this a neat little effort?posted 08-22-2006 10:06 PM PT (US) 
tjguitar

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That CD is actually an abridged compilation of some tracks off the old Label X recordings by the Royal Philharmonic conducted by Tony Bremner from the 80s. http://www.startreksoundtracks.com/sts-lx1-isthereintruth.html http://www.startreksoundtracks.com/sts-lx2-imudd.html
I've had one of those Label X releases for a quite some time but finally got the other volume last summer-ish....so had no need for this one anymore. I think this compilation is fine considering the price (It was between 4.99 and 9.99, I can't remmeber exactly.)posted 08-22-2006 10:54 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

I thought I remember seeing these from somewhere else; I've never owned the Label X CDs. Is all the stuff on those two Label X comps unused? It's pretty impressive that such works weren't used at all, even as stock music (I guess!) for later. But I am not going to display my ignorance on the subject any further.... the music, removed or not, is interesting. That Mullendore piece, I never would have guessed it to be ST music had there been no inclusion of the theme in those few spots....
posted 08-22-2006 10:59 PM PT (US) 
tjguitar

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Honestly, I'm not sure that the music was all unused?Perhaps they were just re-arranged/re-orchestrated for full orchestra as opposed to the small TV orchestra that was used for the original recordings. Varese also released two similar albums on varese with the same orchestra conducted by Fred Steiner.
Hopefully someone else knows, thoough. (I think there might be some info about these recordings in Jeff Bond's Star Trek Music book actually!)
posted 08-22-2006 11:05 PM PT (US) 
tjguitar

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from the liner notes on the star trek soundtracks page I linked above:quote:
Label X producer John Lasher decided that what he wanted to achieve with this album was to convey the ideas, approach, and musical style of each of four individual composers who did not regularly compose for Star Trek. He and co-producer Clyde Allen therefore elected that, with the exception of the main title theme itself, each suite of music from a particular episode would include only cues which were the work of the composer commissioned to write original music for that episode and were, in fact, original to that episode. On the other hand, an effort was made to include in the suites music which each composer had written for this particular episode but which, for one reason or another, was not used. So even the most avid "trekkie" will be hearing such music for the first time.
posted 08-22-2006 11:08 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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I had both of those LPs back in mid 80s and all came from various episodes and were in the series. Those particular pieces were all used. J.
posted 08-23-2006 05:34 PM PT (US) 
JeffBond

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These are rerecordings of music from the original TV series; the only sense in which any of it is "unused" is that the people who put together these suites did an expanded arrangement of Mullendore's love theme from "Conscience of the King."Peter, check out Varese's rerecordings done by Fred Steiner--they are even better (IMO). And certainly check out GNP's releases of the original music from the series, particularly Vol. 2 with Gerald Fried's "Amok Time" and Sol Kaplan's "The Doomsday Machine."
posted 08-24-2006 09:04 AM PT (US) 
soundwave
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quote:
Originally posted by JeffBond:
These are rerecordings of music from the original TV series; the only sense in which any of it is "unused" is that the people who put together these suites did an expanded arrangement of Mullendore's love theme from "Conscience of the King."Peter, check out Varese's rerecordings done by Fred Steiner--they are even better (IMO). And certainly check out GNP's releases of the original music from the series, particularly Vol. 2 with Gerald Fried's "Amok Time" and Sol Kaplan's "The Doomsday Machine."
The CD Kaplan's score to the Doomsday Machine ep.is the best IMO.posted 08-24-2006 10:14 AM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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The Varese CDs that Jeff mentioned are indeed very good. I like both of those. There are also some tapes of other scores by Steiner and others floating around that are quite good too.Star Trek had much good music by STeiner and others. I'm still waiting for Steiners very good score for First to Fight, 1967 Marine film about Guadalcanal and following, to be released. Has some great cues by him. That "cowardice" music for Everett is really good, counterpointed against the As Time Goes By theme, which was featured in the film. Casablance is shown in the movie when Everett is courting the girl. After they are married he whistles the tune and when back in combat, the tune is heard leading up to the battle sequences again. Then, in battle when Everett turns chicken for three or four scenes you hear the two tunes playing together. Very effective.
J.
posted 08-25-2006 08:25 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
